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Lukewarm(?) Take: Manchin is drawing Infrastructure Decade out as long as humanly possible because he knows that once he does, he faces renewed pressure re: the filibuster and voting rights which McConnell has already feared will buckle him and Sinema, specifically re: a bill Manchin put his own name on. Biden said last(?) week, on television, that he can't force anyone's hand on the filibuster until infrastructure is complete. When this bill fracas is over it becomes a game Manchin is not wholly prepared for.

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22 minutes ago, Vee said:

Lukewarm(?) Take: Manchin is drawing Infrastructure Decade out as long as humanly possible because he knows that once he does, he faces renewed pressure re: the filibuster and voting rights which McConnell has already feared will buckle him and Sinema, specifically re: a bill Manchin put his own name on. Biden said last(?) week, on television, that he can't force anyone's hand on the filibuster until infrastructure is complete. When this bill fracas is over it becomes a game Manchin is not wholly prepared for.

That does make sense.

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6 hours ago, DRW50 said:

How heartless can you be, you and your big money backers, to step off your damn yacht long enough to demand that poor people not even have dental care?????

Neither Manchin or Sinema are  moderates. 

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7 hours ago, DRW50 said:

How heartless can you be, you and your big money backers, to step off your damn yacht long enough to demand that poor people not even have dental care?????

Seriously. All I can think of is some elderly person who can't afford dental care sitting alone in godawful pain.  The lack of empathy is appalling.

6 hours ago, amybrickwallace said:

Carl, I couldn't have said it better myself. It's infuriating. He can just sail away on his yacht and never come back to DC for all the good he does. 😡😡😡😡😡

Seriously. It's easy to pay for these things. We need a wealth tax. Bezos is going to be a trillionaire in a few years. We need to slow the dystopia and corruption that is going to come with a trillionaire class. It's probably too late, but we should try.

9 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Seriously. All I can think of is some elderly person who can't afford dental care sitting alone in godawful pain.  The lack of empathy is appalling.

 It's easy to pay for these things. We need a wealth tax. Bezos is going to be a trillionaire in a few years. We need to slow the dystopia and corruption that is going to come with a trillionaire class. It's probably too late, but we should try.

 

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10 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

We need to slow the dystopia and corruption that is going to come with a trillionaire class. It's probably too late, but we should try.

Amen.

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1 hour ago, dragonflies said:

DISGUSTING and DESPICABLE

 

 

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So, let me get this straight. "Victim" is too loaded, but "rioters", "looters" and "arsonists" are not?

 

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1 hour ago, Juliajms said:

Seriously. All I can think of is some elderly person who can't afford dental care sitting alone in godawful pain.  The lack of empathy is appalling.

Seriously. It's easy to pay for these things. We need a wealth tax. Bezos is going to be a trillionaire in a few years. We need to slow the dystopia and corruption that is going to come with a trillionaire class. It's probably too late, but we should try.

Ironically, just this morning, I saw a headline that claimed that Eli Musk was already on his way to becoming the first trillionaire.

TBH, I really didn't care enough to read the actual article.

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3 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Ironically, just this morning, I saw a headline that claimed that Eli Musk was already on his way to becoming the first trillionaire.

TBH, I really didn't care enough to read the actual article.

If it were just about the money it wouldn't matter as much. Unfortunately the power and influence that comes with that kind of money is pretty worrying. At the same time, Manchin and company show just how little it takes to buy some of these bastards out. Also China showed us via Jack Ma that pretty much no one is untouchable. Happily he's resurfaced alive. I just worry that these billionaire business men are go to buy out any hope of climate change mitigation in pursuit of their greed.

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1 hour ago, Juliajms said:

If it were just about the money it wouldn't matter as much. Unfortunately the power and influence that comes with that kind of money is pretty worrying. At the same time, Manchin and company show just how little it takes to buy some of these bastards out. Also China showed us via Jack Ma that pretty much no one is untouchable. Happily he's resurfaced alive. I just worry that these billionaire business men are go to buy out any hope of climate change mitigation in pursuit of their greed.

Maybe because it's elections in my neck of the woods, I am tapped out at the moment. My energies have really been directed to the very local and a few international events.

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5 hours ago, I Am A Swede said:

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So, let me get this straight. "Victim" is too loaded, but "rioters", "looters" and "arsonists" are not?

 

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You must think we Americans are absolutely nuts, and you'd have good reason to! 😪

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