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1 hour ago, dragonflies said:

Just think, Betsy DeVos will be out on her arse before long, same with Ivanka and Jared 😎😎😎

Thank god. That despicable woman had no place anywhere near the Department of Education.

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1 hour ago, Vee said:

I have my doubts. Trump has zero work ethic, loyalty to the GOP, stamina or interest in anything beyond himself. He is bored with politics, and now dejected and deeply wounded. His rallies will wind down with smaller numbers soon enough; he'll try a big grift operation, but like so many of his other attempts at business ventures it will flop. Plus he's got pending cases against him. I think he'll go back into the Palin wilderness in 18 months, maybe less. He'll want to retreat to safe havens. Further, the id he represents for the GOP voters has always existed without him. And they hate a loser.

 

Agree.  If anything, the GOP has co-opted his principles (such as they are) to the point where they almost don't need him anymore to accomplish whatever they want to accomplish.  There isn't anything that says someone else -- perhaps, someone with more finesse -- won't come along to fill the vacuum that Donald Trump will inevitably leave behind, thereby morphing Trumpism into something else.

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Just now, Khan said:

 

Agree.  If anything, the GOP has co-opted his principles (such as they are) to the point where they almost don't need him anymore to accomplish whatever they want to accomplish.  There isn't anything that says someone else -- perhaps, someone with more finesse -- won't come along to fill the vacuum that Donald Trump will inevitably leave behind, thereby morphing Trumpism into something else.

 

No one in their bench has the raw power he has with that base, and the built-in TV recognition. That's their problem going forward.

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1 minute ago, Vee said:

Whoa! @marceline

 

 

Thanks for posting. I heard about this from other supporters of her about 2 hours ago. We still have a ton of mail in ballots to count in Illinois and she was only 900 votes behind. Oberweiss that sleazy grifter is already raising money for a recount. He knows he likely lost. I am so happy. I volunteered for her in 2018 and in 2020 and she's one of the hardest working members of congress. I hope it holds. And it might just reinstate my opinion of her district residents who have to know how hard she works for them

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I wonder if we will see other retired Republicans like Paul Ryan returning to politics now that Trump looks to be losing the election and is out of office? 

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I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these people just want out now. They managed to raid the treasury and now they want to go.

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I'm glad to hear about Underwood, as I've seen nothing but praise for her work, even if she doesn't get the attention that the Squad or Katie Porter tend to get. Oberweis is an uber-rich moron who just runs for office anywhere and everywhere in Illinois until someone is dumb enough to vote him in. 

 

I hadn't expected the Senate (although there's still a chance), as I always had a bad feeling about ME and NC, but the loss of some of the people in the House is really dispiriting as many of them were very good reps who genuinely cared about their constituents. At least some are hanging on, and hopefully will be in good shape for 2022. 

1 minute ago, marceline said:

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these people just want out now. They managed to raid the treasury and now they want to go.

 

I think Esper was one of the people Trump was going to fire if he won anyway. 

4 minutes ago, Skin said:

I wonder if we will see other retired Republicans like Paul Ryan returning to politics now that Trump looks to be losing the election and is out of office? 

 

I don't think so. Paul Ryan had two huge chances and blew both of them. There's no real going back. His vision of the GOP, thin as it was, has no real place in the current party, as they can match his austerity fetish with a frenzied "OWN THE LIBS! OWN THE LIBS!!!" cocaine hysteria that he never could pull off. He'll stay on the sidelines, pontificating and practicing "serious" faces in the mirror. And skipping leg day.

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21 minutes ago, Skin said:

These voters lost their mind under Obama, and I still think they've been broken by the idea that a Black President was as good as he was. They never healed which is why they sent Trump in. 

 

19 minutes ago, Vee said:

Exactly. I don't believe this country will be ready for Kamala in four years. Not after what we've been through, and not after what these people did. It's surprised me before, you never know. But I think eight is a better shot.

 

I might have said this before on this board, but I have prepared myself for the possibility of never seeing another non-Caucasian male elected to the WH in my lifetime.  Same goes for a potential female president, or even gay or lesbian one (sorry, Pete).  I'll be surprised and delighted if any of that happens, but America is just too broken to accept anything other than straight, white men as its' leaders.  Taking another crack at changing that mindset, I'm afraid, will have to be up to the next generation.

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The GA remaining numbers are razor-thin but based on what I am seeing Biden can take it. It will be very close but I believe it.

 

Call it.

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It's always ugly to watch Little Donny prove himself to his dad.  I mean, if anyone needed self-affirmations from Stuart Smalley more....

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