The Politics Thread

[Juliajms]

^ He's never claimed to be a socialist (democratic socialists are still capitalists) so I won't fault him there personally.  I'll just fault him for being a jackass.  Who claims  to be for the people and then tells the masses to go write a best seller? It was really a disgusting thing to say for so many reasons. I don't on any level begrudge him his millions, but to act like everyone has the platform and ability to get rich that way was so utterly republican.  I just can't.

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[DRW50]

 

I've seen a lot of praise in the media for how brave he was to go on Faux News and how great he was, so I guess with Biden falling, this is the start of their push to go ahead and give him the nomination. 

 

I will vote for him over Trump, but I just wish the whole thing was over already. The man and his supporters repulse me and I don't want to have to see any more of his endless vanity project. That's all this is. 

[Juliajms]

I'm embarrassed to think how blind I was at the beginning of last primary season.  I guess I was thinking that if people could get economic justice that other good things might follow, but now I just cringe at what an ass he turned out to be. My only consolation is that I never hesitated to support Hillary once it was obvious she would be the nominee.

 

And yes,  I will be grateful when it's all over too.  I wish Biden would announce already.  It seems to me he has a good chance as long as there aren't any more serious skeletons in his closet.  I want to see how much money he can raise. Either way I'm with Kamala Harris when it comes to her sentiments about beating Trump. We have to get rid of him. Anyone who puts their ambitions above that goal is persona non grata to me.

[DramatistDreamer]

Another day, another investigation of possible ethics violations by a member of Trump's cabinet.  Why does America now treat this as if it's par for the course?

 

 

[Gray Bunny]

 

Agreed. Team Kamala. I don't think Biden's "scandal" will continue as the months progress, cuz all one has to do is compare it to the sexual assault claims against Trumpilstiltsken and the infamous Access Hollywood tape, and then ask, "which one is pervier?" 

 

Re: Bernie.  Anything that chips away at his base is fine by me. There's quite a list growing of Democratic possibilities that I'd choose any day over him. 

[DRW50]

 

I think one of the problems with Biden is there is always some kind of self-enforced error. There is a reason he struggled in his last two runs. 

[Juliajms]

^ And he won't get the leeway that Trump does when he starts making those gaffes.

[marceline]

At this point I honestly don't know who is more nihilistic: Trumpers or Berners.

 

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by marceline

[DramatistDreamer]

 

Bernie, much like Trump, is a cult of personality to his most ardent followers.

[Juliajms]

Yeah, I really despise these people who actively helped elected Trump by voting for JS or writing in Bernie's name.  Things have to get worse before they get better? Worse for who? Probably not for them.

 

These are almost certainly all people who can go about their daily lives and not worry that someone is going to assault them in the Target parking lot or start screaming at them about going back to where they came from (which is usually right here, but never mind that). They aren't having their kid's ripped away at the border and they are ok with that happening to others because that's how we bring on the revolution.

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[DramatistDreamer]

For people who many not know much about Peruvian politics, most of their leaders are either incarcerated or have been incarcerated.

 

[Juliajms]

This thread doesn't change who I support, but I find it very disappointing.  If you click on it the numbers for most of the candidates are there, not just Beto. What a stingy group.  As for Beto, I give more and make less. That does not endear him to me.

 

Edited April 17, 2019 by Juliajms

[DramatistDreamer]

Not going to defend the stingy because obviously there are no Jehovah's Witnesses in this group but I personally have never claimed charitable donations on tax forms and I know some people consider it somewhat distasteful to make every charitable donation a "write-off". 

Are all these folks, keeping their wallets/purses tight or is there some other reason, like investing in organizations that do work that helps individuals?  I would genuinely like for someone to ask each candidate why their charitable donations look the way they do.

 

Of course, when the Obamas taxes showed how generous they had been in their charitable donations, they got criticized by some people who claimed it was for show and that charity's effects were limited compared to investing in entrepreneurial and training programs that benefit women, minorities and the poor, for example.  America, in general, was quite harsh on the Obamas in certain regards. Some still are.

Edited April 17, 2019 by DramatistDreamer

[Juliajms]

There's an understatement.  You always seem to keep your cool DD, which I admire.  The Obama's were treated horribly.  The way people talked about Michelle was disgusting and shameful. 

 

I sort of reminds me of how Megan Markel is treated. I have no love for the royal family in general, don't get me wrong, but it's obvious that she is getting a raw deal in the press because she is bi racial.  It took me awhile to realize that people were praising KM as graceful, ladylike and all this other BS as a way of contrasting her to MM. Same thing they do with Melania in regard to Michelle Obama.  It's so unfair and untrue.

[DramatistDreamer]

 

It's probably because at this age, I realized that there were times when I was bullied, called indescribable names for no justifiable reason or harassed six ways to Sunday and discovered that not openly reacting was the best response (albeit the most difficult) especially when open displays of anger would be giving people what they want and expect, which is their stereotype of an angry black woman.  My guess is that both Megan Markel and Michelle Obama have come to realize this fact as well in their lifetimes.

People are all over Michelle Obama's areola for comparing Trump to a divorced dad (which is about the mildest thing one could ever call that troll) and the British press are deliberately trying to hurt Harry by going after Megan (this time for the couple having the gall not to submit to that ridiculous post delivery photo-op outside of the hospital 

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).  The British press seems even more incensed that the Megan and Harry won't respond to their tantrums.

There gets to be a certain point where you know that displaying outrage won't change anything, in fact, it gives detractors a smug sense of satisfaction, so better to channel the anger in other ways and so much the better if it comes off as insouciance. 

I used to have a wicked temper when I was younger but over the years, I think meditation has also helped.  Thanks for the compliment though @Juliajms.

Edited April 17, 2019 by DramatistDreamer