1 hour ago, sivad40 said:

Some of us liberals that live in North Carolina wondered how low the perception of the state is due to what the NC GOP has been doing to the state. I figured it the perception would be as low as Mississippi but being compared to South Africa made me laugh. NC hasn't sunk to that level yet. It's a purple state at the most with a conservative/rural- liberal/urban divide. It would be have more  Democrat  majority  if not for the extreme gerrymandering done by the NC GOP when they finally took control of state house. The NC GOP in all of their arrogance, changed the constitution to limit the executive power of the governor when a Democrat was going to be elected as one. 

I didn’t mean to sound flippant and careless with that remark. I have family who live in North Carolina and that was a stmt my cousin made. More in relation to what the state legislature did to Roy cooper and the shutting down of polling places. Not that this hasn’t happened but that according to my cousin many believed maybe the state had gotten past it. But we all know that’s not the case. Same as with the country where many thought because we elected ObAma, just by that fact, the inherent biases and injustices disappeared.  It’s just causing those who are not the minority dig in with the power they feel they are entitled to.

 

Oh I did want to ask, Cooper does have control over the new maps for legislative disc tricks still right?

Edited October 11, 20187 yr by JaneAusten

I officially want out of this dimension:

 

 

 

 

KANYE on his #MAGA hat: "They tried to scare me to not wear this hat, but this hat gives me power, in a way...The campaign 'I'm with her' just didn't make me feel as a guy that didn't get to see my dad all the time like a guy that can play catch w/his son...I feel like superman." pic.twitter.com/aLP2fkefnV

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 11, 2018

What in God's name is Kanye saying: "We can empower the pharmaceuticals & make more money. That's one thing. I never stepped into a situation where I didn't make people more money. We can empower pharmaceuticals & our factories & bring not only Adidas onshore, but also Foxconn." pic.twitter.com/HlGm0TVaiO

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 11, 2018

KANYE says he wants to build "Trump factories" in Chicago bc "he's a master of industry."

"It would be cool to have Yeezy ideation centers, which would be a mix of education that empowers people & gives them modern information like-- sometimes people say 'this kid has ADD'" 🙃🙃 pic.twitter.com/834ilGC4q8

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 11, 2018

After listening to Kanye's rant, an exhausted-sounding Trump says, "he can speak for me anytime he wants... he's a smart cookie. Smart. He gets it."

"Let's stop worrying about the future," Kanye replies. "We just have today." pic.twitter.com/dgj9Sdhcpv

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) October 11, 2018

Trump talks with Kanye and Jim Brown about how awesome Kim Jong-un is. pic.twitter.com/SW7mfMAH17

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 11, 2018

Kanye talks about how black poverty is driven by welfare and maga hats. pic.twitter.com/OwtYFBw3aO

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 11, 2018

Kanye decries "trap door of the 13th amendment" and how his sleep disorder was diagnosed as bipolar disorder. pic.twitter.com/PNwtSkVdSb

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 11, 2018

"Liberals would try to control a black person through the concept of racism because we know we're very proud emotional people. So when I said I like trump to like someone as liberal, they'll say, oh, but he's racist. You think racism can control me? Oh, that don't stop me." pic.twitter.com/cifOdBz9Ja

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 11, 2018

This doesn’t happen often, but @realDonaldTrump seemed mesmerized, left with a loss of words after Kanye’s stream of consciousness monologue... which also included the revelation he was (mis)diagnosed with bipolar disorder.

— Weijia Jiang (@weijia) October 11, 2018

“You know...I love you!” Kanye exclaimed as he jumps up to hug @realDonaldTrump, who did not say it back. pic.twitter.com/ZKrZwwQtVD

— Weijia Jiang (@weijia) October 11, 2018

5 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

I didn’t mean to sound flippant and careless with that remark. I have family who live in North Carolina and that was a stmt my cousin made. More in relation to what the state legislature did to Roy cooper and the shutting down of polling places. Not that this hasn’t happened but that according to my cousin many believed maybe the state had gotten past it. But we all know that’s not the case. Same as with the country where many thought because we elected Obama, just by that fact, the inherent biases and injustices disappeared.  It’s just causing those who are not the minority dig in with the power they feel they are entitled to.

I figure it was about how The GOP has been doing in this state. They have eliminated or limited many social service programs  and have attempted to take away the control of the airport in Charlotte from the city itself. Then there was the boycott of the state due to the transgender bathroom bill that cost the state billions in revenue. I know the Right is more embolden than ever to cause as much damage as they can as long they are in control. 

Part of me feels the media is exploiting mental illness, but what are they going to do? They can't pretend Kanye isn't in the oval office talking nonsense.

7 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Part of me feels the media is exploiting mental illness, but what are they going to do? They can't pretend Kanye isn't in the oval office talking nonsense.

 

As godawful as it is, I'm hoping that it will help other people who may not know what untreated bipolar disorder looks like.

My ex was bipolar. Roseanne is probably at least bipolar. I have some sympathy for the man he was, but this shît stopped being an excuse awhile ago. There's also a lot of free floating deep narcissism and misogyny in there - and there always was with Kanye.

Remember when dealing with friends or family with mental illness, that your expectations and their progess will always be separate. Its easy to become frustrated when dealing with someone you’re so familiar with but its integral to their growth that you are patient & supportive

— Chance The Rapper (@chancetherapper) October 10, 2018

Like, I like Chance, but no I would not support family or friends doing crap like this, and haven't in the past.

15 minutes ago, Vee said:

My ex was bipolar. Roseanne is probably at least bipolar. I have some sympathy for the man he was, but this shît stopped being an excuse awhile ago. There's also a lot of free floating deep narcissism and misogyny in there - and there always was with Kanye.

Like, I like Chance, but no I would not support family or friends doing crap like this, and haven't in the past.

It's not about excuses or support. Like I said, I don't even know a Kanye West song, unless it was on Glee.  It's about someone who is clearly not well having a manic episode in public. Meanwhile, no one can or will do anything about it.  Kanye may very well be a bad person underneath it all, but someone should probably step in and get him on his meds before he crashes and hurts himself.

 

Roseanne, same thing.  I've never seen mental illness as an excuse, but it can be a reason. I''m not sure why people try to put a time limit on that medical reality.  Her brain was seriously injured (and she has bipolar). I don't think it's a leap to say she has never been normal since that event. It's not really about whether we like her enough to support her TV career. It's about if someone who knows her can get her on the meds before something terrible happens.

26 minutes ago, marceline said:

 

As godawful as it is, I'm hoping that it will help other people who may not know what untreated bipolar disorder looks like.

Me too.

26 minutes ago, Vee said:

My ex was bipolar. Roseanne is probably at least bipolar. I have some sympathy for the man he was, but this shît stopped being an excuse awhile ago. There's also a lot of free floating deep narcissism and misogyny in there - and there always was with Kanye.

Remember when dealing with friends or family with mental illness, that your expectations and their progess will always be separate. Its easy to become frustrated when dealing with someone you’re so familiar with but its integral to their growth that you are patient & supportive

— Chance The Rapper (@chancetherapper) October 10, 2018

 

Like, I like Chance, but no I would not support family or friends doing crap like this, and haven't in the past.

In this case, support would mean taking steps to get him hospitalized. At this point even without the politics I think there's a decent case for civil committal. But perhaps all we can do is wait for him to harm himself. The people I'm really worried for are his kids.

I think Kanye was hospitalized a year or two ago. Sometimes I wonder if this is the best he's going to let himself be. 

25 minutes ago, marceline said:

In this case, support would mean taking steps to get him hospitalized. At this point even without the politics I think there's a decent case for civil committal. But perhaps all we can do is wait for him to harm himself. The people I'm really worried for are his kids.

Yes, exactly. No one has to support what he is saying. I would hope they don't, even when it is coherent. No one has to allow a person who refuses treatment to stay in their lives.  The point is his family should do their best to get him treatment or keep him out of the spotlight. 

 

Kim K is an idiot to bring so many toddlers into this man's life. I usually don't comment on other people's reproductive choices, but what kind of fool decides to have a baby when their husband just got out of the mental ward? The stress of that is so intense, having nannies doesn't change that.  Lord, I miss the days when I didn't even know that woman's name.

 

In other news, I'm thrilled that the fed popped the bubble in the housing market.  That was a very good call and I'm glad it happened before Trump could fire Powell, which he surely will if he hikes again.

 

Republicans May Be About To Steal An Election In Georgia. - WaPo.

3 hours ago, Vee said:

I officially want out of this dimension:

 

Well, as Prince once said, take me with u.

 

I just haven't the strength to deal with this.  Ya know?  Between my B**** K******** hangover and the run-up to midterms, it's all I can do to hang on until "Countdown to Christmas" on the Hallmark Channel.

 

(Kan)Ye, for your sake, I hope you know what you're doing.  And if you don't?  Then get help.

Edited October 11, 20187 yr by Khan

He doesn't!

Tangential to today’s festivities but hmmm.

 

 

 

Did The Atlantic get new owners in the last year or two? They seem to have more and more hard right voices.