7 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

I am just blown away by the insanity. If God exists do these people really believe they can force his hand? Clearly they do, which is the height of arrogance. I almost wish he existed so he could smite these fools.

Maybe there is a god/higher being? Having the Saudi's and Iran united  leaves me almost speechless. 

40 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I've thought that for a long time now. There's a great deal of smugness and self-satisfaction in many who go on and on about this - because they "know" that they will be saved and go to Heaven, because they are good people, while everyone else is damned. 

 

Which is no different than the radicalized Muslims we're supposed to cower in fear of. The truth is the GOP has become a doomsday cult.

So dumb dumb is going to resign the 6 month waiver so the embassy stays put. I guess Prince Jared is still working on peace talks

 

That comment in the article by HR McMaster deflates any confidence in the "generals". His comment on the move seemed almost flippant to me. 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/trump-says-in-calls-he-s-moving-u-s-israel-embassy-to-jerusalem

Edited December 5, 20178 yr by JaneAusten

7 minutes ago, marceline said:

 

Which is no different than the radicalized Muslims we're supposed to cower in fear of. The truth is the GOP has become a doomsday cult.

There's the truth.  Of course all three major religions have radicals and Israel/Jerusalem is a flash point. Leave it to 45 to do the worst possible thing. He's determined to have a world war, if it starts in North Korea or Israel seems not to matter to him.

10 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

So dumb dumb is going to resign the 6 month waiver so the embassy stays put. I guess Prince Jared is still working on peace talks

 

That comment in the article by HR McMaster deflates any confidence in the "generals". His comment on the move seemed almost flippant to me. 

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/trump-says-in-calls-he-s-moving-u-s-israel-embassy-to-jerusalem

Ha! I bet he's going to scare us like this every six months. I guess I'm grateful, but he is just the worst.

When you think about it, the evangelicals basically want to implement the West's version of Shariah (whatever that would be called) in the U.S.

50 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

If God exists do these people really believe they can force his hand? Clearly they do, which is the height of arrogance. I almost wish he existed so he could smite these fools.

 

If anything, God could protect the very people THESE people would rather see burn.

 

1 hour ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Yemen has been the staging ground of the enmity between Iran and Saudi Arabia yet Trump Inc. is now creating such a mess in the Middle East that it is having the unexpected effect of united the Saudis and the Iranians together against the U.S.  Whoa!

 

It'll be the most ironic thing ever for Trump to (inadvertently) deliver peace to the Middle East by having them all united against us.  But, like I always say, all of us are God's instruments, lol.

Edited December 5, 20178 yr by Khan

On 12/4/2017 at 3:19 PM, JaneAusten said:

MBS comes across like a child with a new toy. He knows very little or doesn't care about real reforms. Just a couple of surface changes that catches the attention of the west as he helps blow up the middle east even further. And the idea of allowing Jared and MBS to decide that it's the US's position to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, I don't even want to think about what type of violence that is going to set off.

 

The only reforms that MBS really cares about are the ones that will transform SA enough to attract investors, particularly Western ones.

The ruling monarchy has known for some time that the oil money won't last forever, they can only rely on it for about a handful of years. They've invested in all that they can expect to invest in and get some return for their investment (they've even invested in solar and wind energy).

They know it's critical to attract investors as the other part of the equation.

 

Hence, the reforms. MBS is very much in a hurry to get this done and is elbowing his way through (not to mention that he clearly wants to be the guy that gets the credit for modernizing SA). His reforms have been very popular with the masses (particularly the youth) because he has stripped the cultural police and the strictest clerics of their power, while giving the general population newfound freedoms.

 

What he is doing in other Middle Eastern countries is an entirely different matter.

His hand in Yemen has heightened a crisis that is both deeply political and humanitarian.

His maneuvering to try to isolate Qatar has all but completely blown up in his face. (yet another ideological battle with Iran by proxy).

 

I just find it ironic that SA's ally the U.S. (via another ignorant, impatient princeling) has helped create so much chaos in the Middle East that they likely have unwittingly drawn the two rivals, S.A. and Iran closer together.

 

11 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

If anything, God could protect the very people THESE people would rather see burn.

 

 

It'll be the most ironic thing ever for Trump to (inadvertently) deliver peace to the Middle East by having them all united against us.  But, like I always say, all of us are God's instruments, lol.

 

Nah, they'll only stay together long enough to dismantle the U.S.' plans, then they'll return to their proxy wars as scheduled.

Edited December 5, 20178 yr by DramatistDreamer

Great to see that Brexit is going so well.

 

David Davis admits UK Government has not done Brexit impact assessments for different economic sectors

 

 

I must admit that when I read that headline, my first thought was, "David Davis?  What the hell does the co-creator of 'The Bob Newhart Show' have to do with this?"

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/06/tax-plan-glitches-mistakes-republicans-208049

I guess that's what happens when a bill is scribbled hastily within the margins, after midnight, with a Sharpie.

Kirsten Gillibrand is calling for Franken's resignation.

 

Also:

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 6, 20178 yr by Faulkner

I'm not defending Franken or his actions, but asking him to resign at a time when the likes of Judge Roy Moore has been all but confirmed as the next senator from Alabama is preposterous.  Moore will be in, Franken (and maybe others) will be out, and then what?  I mean, besides all hell officially breaking loose?

Edited December 6, 20178 yr by Khan

5 minutes ago, Khan said:

I'm not defending Sen. Franken or his actions, but asking him to resign at a time when the likes of Judge Roy Moore has been all but confirmed as the next senator from Alabama is just so damn preposterous.  Moore will be in, Franken (and maybe others) will be out, and then what?  I mean, besides from all hell officially breaking loose?

 

The desperate need for lefty purity. The house is on fire and the Democrats are trying to put it out with bottled water. This is why I didn't jump on this Me Too bandwagon. I knew it would become a contest to see who could be more righteous.

Edited December 6, 20178 yr by marceline

They should also all be appalled by the sexual harassment and assaults committed by the current occupant of the WH. Why are they not also calling for #45's resignation?