The Politics Thread

[Khan]

Like Michelle Wolf said, she burns through lies and then uses the ashes to create her smoky eye shadow.

Edited April 18, 2019 by Khan

[DRW50]

I don't even have the heart to read most of this stuff. Trump will still get away with everything, so will his cronies, and the media would still sell us all into the rivers of fire just to get access to them.

[Khan]

 

Agree.

[JaneAusten]

It's so depressing. I am generally a glass half full person, but I agree with Carl. So the president of the united states basically can get away with anything and remain untouched. I have zero faith left in the media. They will continue to push Trump not caring about the continual damage to this country. And I am so tired of hearing about "it's politics" and how the dems hands are tied. When does standing up for the rule of law and constitution come into play.

 

I heard someone involved in Watergate say Nixon had it not been for the tapes would have gotten away with all of it. I'd frankly rather have Nixon than this evil SOB. Maybe Nixon would have been worse since he understood the machinations of the gvmt more, but why does it matter really since Trump has no interest or desire to follow anything and can get away with it.

[DRW50]

So sad. Brexit is almost singlehandedly undoing decades of progress in Ireland. 

 

 

[marceline]

 

This is a tough time but one thing that gives me hope is that the corrupt machine that helped bring us Trump is slowly being dismantled. Manafort is in prison, Cohen is going to prison, the NRA is having real financial problems, Julian Assange is in custody (my personal favorite) and will very likely never breathe free air again, the National Enquirer has been sold, etc... It's easy to feel like there has been no justice but there has been and there will be more. What it will cost us to get there is the real question.

[ReddFoxx]

The best way to hold Trump accountable is to vote him out and that has to be the top priority. He can be prosecuted after he leaves office and I think that is the best that can be hoped for.

[Khan]

 

Exactly.  And you know what else?  If Trump is actually voted out of office, I doubt anyone from the GOP will be on-hand to shield him or his associates from the SDNY, because they would no longer be of use to them.

 

ICAM!

[Juliajms]

I can think of one thing better to hope for. 

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[marceline]

 

I love when you go dark. #TeamNaturalCauses

[Wendy]

 

+1,000

 

Or I can see Trump offing himself if/when (PLEASE BE WHEN!) he loses in 2020, just like the President of Peru did a few days ago when cornered. Cowards never want to face consequences.

[DRW50]

I'm surprised Elizabeth Warren is calling for his impeachment. She's a very intelligent person who knows how this would end. It feels like a Hail Mary for a campaign that has stalled. 

 

Democrats are repeating 2016 all over again, between the purity contests and the obsession with Trump over our own policies or values.

 

I can't shake the feeling that he's getting reelected. 

[JaneAusten]

Yeah I doubt you'll hear anyone else call for impeachment. I'm kind of sad Warren hasn't gained more traction , but maybe it's a lesson she should have run when the iron was hot in 2016 for her. 

 

As for what the democrats are saying, I'm taking a lesson from what people are actually talking about at townhalls and when out talking to voters which is NOT impeachment, Trump, or Russia. I heard all the same things about what democrats were doing wrong in 2018 and won state races and record numbers in the house. And there is lots of time. We haven't even had the first debate yet.

[Khan]

 

You're not the first person I've heard who has said she should've run in '16.  I agree with y'all, though.  EW's moment has passed.  Her best hope, IMO, would be to snag the VP nod with whoever runs against Trump.  That way, she has an opportunity to make herself relevant once more.

 

 

Oh, I feel like that's a done deal.  Especially if we end up with Bernie, Buttigieg or even Beto as the nominee.  (Again, I don't want to pick a horse this early in the race, but I really feel like Biden -- yes, another straight, white, older male -- is our best, safest bet against a second Trump administration).

 

It's just like when George W. Bush ran for re-election against John Kerry.  Just about everyone agreed that, had there been no 9/11, he would've been toast after one term (like his dad before him).  Nevertheless, there seemed to be this ingrained notion on the voters' part that he was "entitled" to a second term, regardless of how ineffectual he had proven himself to be (and, of course, that he and his team lied us into a war we're still fighting), and that we should "let him finish what he started."

 

Plus, I don't trust Berners anymore, after what happened in '16.  If Bernie doesn't get the nomination this time, they'll have no problem voting third-party or sitting out again, just so they can screw the rest of us (again) for not letting their savior run (again).

Edited April 20, 2019 by Khan

[DRW50]

I think Biden would have won in 2016. I'm not sure about now. 

 

VP selection will be more crucial that ever this time around. I'm especially wary of Bernie as I am pretty sure he will just pick a crony, and treat them as a token or a lapdog. 

 

I feel like the whole Pete Buttigieg boomlet, brief as it will be, is just another way for corporations to move white, rich gay men away from the rest of the lgbt community, which is already happening anyway.