The Politics Thread

[DramatistDreamer]

[Juliajms]

^ Damn, that is such a high number of white women. I think that the press spent so much time talking about the power of the Latino vote and how angry women were at his misogyny, that I really did not see him winning at all.

[Vee]

I don't think anyone short of Carl (take a bow) could have anticipated this.

 

I'll pray for victory but all I can say is we've been somewhere like this before, and not just in my lifetime. If the worst happens I believe we can and will find our way back, but it will take time, work, non-complacency and a lot of willingness to see through to the next month, the next day, the next hour, the next minute, the next second.

 

That's how I've gotten through a lot of bad times in my life. It's how I got through the Bush years. It's how I absolutely believe we can do again. I just wish we wouldn't have to do it like this.

 

We'll come back. It's awful, but we'll come back. That's what America does and that's what I do. I don't know how to give up so I just keep going. Take a night, take an hour, cry, scream, whatever, then keep going. The alternative is nonexistent.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Vee

[Juliajms]

I agree with you Vee. Assuming he doesn't use the nukes we will come back from this. People joke about leaving the country, but I would never leave in times of trouble (and my family could go to Israel).

[DRW50]

 

Very well said. As always. I always respect you and what you have to say. 

 

It will be bad - I'm too numb to really cater to the doomsday brigades at places like Daily Kos (now I remember why I stopped going there), but it will be bad - but there are also a lot of strong people who will help us through. 

 

If anyone knows anybody out there struggling with their mental health, maybe give them a call, because I've already seen people saying they may attempt suicide. 

Edited November 9, 2016 by DRW50

[DramatistDreamer]

I barely started to come back from the Bush years. I don't know what will happen for my livelihood if Trump becomes President.

I feel that he has normalized hate speech so much, I actually now fear for my safety as well as my economic livelihood.

[JaneAusten]

I have to apologize to Carl because never in my lifetime did I ever believe this could happen but I guess all the signs were there. The most chilling statistic is the percentage of white female voters who apparently voted for him. I can't fathom that one bit. And no this doesn't go on the heads of any POC or minorities it's on us.

 

This is 100 times worse than Bush. We will get through this but it's going to lead to a wave worldwide that's already begun in some places. It's just hard for me to believe that we elected President Obama 8 years ago and this is the result of that underlying resentment and hatred, because I don't buy the economic anxiety crap or the being fed up with Washington, when most of the people running for the Senate and House were re-elected.

Edited November 9, 2016 by JaneAusten

[AdelaideCate007]

I worry for the rest of the World, but mostly I worry about the USA. The half of you that didn't vote for him don't deserve this.  This has gone past embarrassing and into shameful and terrifying. Hugs to all of you.

 

Is it too early to start saying this might be the start of WW3?

[Vee]

 

 

I think we all fear those things. I feel like we not only let the country or Obama down, but people like my mother. She is in her seventies and was campaigning vigorously for Hillary all over. She is far more of a worrier than me, but I insisted we'd be fine. I feel like I failed her. She lived through the '60s as a radical, she worked on Capitol Hill many years, and as a young woman she was going to work for RFK. Then he was killed.

 

Still, she gave her life to service and though she's in very good health I abhor the idea that she'd have to leave this world while the country is still like this.

 

I think we'll come back as we always do, in time and with hard work. That's the only way I get through tonight, or tomorrow, or whenever.

[Soapsuds]

Everyone needs to pray. Trump will be a disaster as President.

[Juliajms]

Same here. Carl and QFan, you were right.  I knew that HRC had a lot of baggage and high negatives, but I just couldn't fathom that people would just such a blatant liar and scam artist over her. 

[Soapsuds]

We are going backwards to hate ....division between whites vs Latinos and African Americans.....a sad night.

I can't recall the name of the guy who predicted HRC was in trouble and might lose Michigan said that those that voted for Trump were in for a huge awakening because he was going to make America worse.

[NothinButAttitude]

I am over here literally bawling right now. I feel like as an African American gay man, there is no longer a place for me here. Racism and misogyny as truly won. 

 

I'm hurting for Obama too as his entire legacy will be obliterated and mean nothing. 

[cassadine1991]

Why do I feel like this is what we are going to see tomorrow

looks like we are either going to be deported or sent to conversion camps

[DramatistDreamer]

I am Black and a Woman. I cannot hide my skin color nor my gender. I have felt the sting of discrimination even in the best of economic times. I have had ignorant comments told to me as if they were compliments. I have been harassed and called names, men whispering nasty things in my ear and yelling them in the street. I've even been grabbed by at least one rando.

 

Just two houses down, there is a man who had a Trump/Pence sign on his lawn.

 

I have a friend who, over the weekend said she was afraid to leave her house on Election Day. Also a Black Woman.

 

Show of hands, how many people have felt/do feel what I'm going through?