The Politics Thread

While I don't think this will do much nationally. Those who like Obama will like him more and those who hate him will hate him more, I think it could impact a few swing states like North Carolina and Virginia, but Obama could lose both and still win.

Yeah, the gay marriage wasn't why Kerry lost, it was his awful campaign.

I'll never forget even reading some very liberal political blogs in late 2004 and seeing threads like "Democrats must throw gays under the bus." It's a good reminder of who is truly important in the party.

If the economy keeps sputtering along and Romney continues to have the money and the media adoration, I don't think Obama has any real shot, especially since his campaign is so very tone deaf. But I do think that this guarantees gay marriage will get a lot of the blame.

When the POTUS changes his mind, he flip flops.

When Romney changes his mind (which is every 45 minutes) he's "seeing thing differently".

It's May. the election's in November. I wish I was as clairvoyant as many others who are calling this thing. LOL!

Romney's changes have been more dramatic, he's a completely different person than he was ten years ago, which is a lot different than Obama upgrading his position on one issue.

Romney's favorables are horrible, double digits under water, that's all I need to say about what the potential outcome of the election will be.

The polls show the race tied. The media and the big money elites have too much invested in Romney to let him lose. It will be very close.

National polls don't really matter, it's how they are doing in the individual states. Right now, Obama is 7 points ahead in Ohio, 8 ahead in Virginia, ahead 5 in Florida. And actually believe it or not, since Obama is ahead in Iowa, Nevada, CO, NM, it's possible for Obama to loose Ohio, Virginia, Florida, and North Carolina and STILL have 272 electoral votes, 2 more than needed to win. Obama has several paths to victory, Romney really only has 1.

Yes, the state polls are where the picture of the race is at. National polls tend be less stable than the state ones and really count less since electoral votes decided the election.

I'll never forget even reading some very liberal political blogs in late 2004 and seeing threads like "Democrats must throw gays under the bus." It's a good reminder of who is truly important in the party.

If the economy keeps sputtering along and Romney continues to have the money and the media adoration, I don't think Obama has any real shot, especially since his campaign is so very tone deaf. But I do think that this guarantees gay marriage will get a lot of the blame.

Obama will have just as much money financing his election as Romney, and probably a lot more. I read last week Obama has something like $100 million stockpiled already and it is only May. Romney has something like $10 million I think.

The main money will be coming from the Super PACS.

Mitt Romney's prep school days.

http://www.washingto...ry.html?hpid=z2

I think they are going to get a lot of backlash over this article. Perhaps that was the point - to show that they are liberal and out to get noble, long-suffering Mitt. Who knows.

I also think that his alleged behavior in this article will likely get him MORE support, not less. A lot of people just love this type of stuff.

Edited May 10, 201213 yr by CarlD2

It's like the Arizona shootings never happened.

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/05/10/482222/sarah-steelman-defends-kill-comment/?mobile=nc

Romney is now grasping at straws trying to make Time artcile about him go away. And, for those who say that the liberal media are pciking on him once again.....was the media so liberal when a film clip of the POTUS started being circulated with him giving thanks to a professor of his, AND THE WAS PAST OFF AS CURRENT?

Romney is now grasping at straws trying to make Time artcile about him go away. And, for those who say that the liberal media are pciking on him once again.....was the media so liberal when a film clip of the POTUS started being circulated with him giving thanks to a professor of his, AND THE WAS PAST OFF AS CURRENT?

That is the republican main argument: that whether an item is true is immaterial, but is it a liberal saying it? Well who cares if it is a liberal saying it or not if it is true?

Now he's backing away from the gay adoption comments he made just yesterday:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57433104-503544/romney-backs-away-from-gay-adoptions/?tag=exclsv

This is close to what Romney has said for a long time - in 2005 he was disgusted by gay adoption (saying with some horror that married gay couples even had children), and back in the early 90's he was reported to have made anti-gay comments.

The real question is who is it who tells him to make quasi-tolerant statements which he clearly does not believe, and who then hurriedly tells him to backtrack?

Here is Bay Buchanan, a Romney adviser (which should tell us a lot about him, given her views and the views of her brother Pat), saying that Romney believes children should be adopted by "a mom and a dad" and the rest is up to the states.

http://politicaltick...-conservatives/

And yet this article actually spins this as some bold, shocking position.

Many voters will vote for someone who is anti-gay, as long as it means they get lower taxes or that some "other" is being punished, not them. So why is Romney even pretending? Aside from some brief comments in Massachusetts (where he had to say these things) he has consistently opposed gay rights, and made a huge career out of this. I hope from now on he's just honest about it. It will get him more votes anyway, I'm sure, and the media will still tell us how moderate he is and what a risk he's taking with those moderate ways.

Breitbart, those honest and truthful crusaders, were trying to prove the bias of the bully story - I think they got up to someone not actually witnessing the incident, and the victim's sister saying she knew nothing of it (since brothers tell their sisters everything, of course). I wonder if there are any other "gotcha" statements on the way.

Edited May 12, 201213 yr by CarlD2