The dialogue over the last 4-5 days was awful. Whomever wrote that should be the one leaving.

The dialogue over the last 4-5 days was awful. Whomever wrote that should be the one leaving.

Have to disagree with you there..We've had some excellent dialog this week, especially the Tony and Stefano scenes earlier in the week..

I would love Ed Scott to return to Y&R but he was let go and Bloom was never a big fan of his. CBS fired him before in 2001 and were not itching to have him back. My dream would be Ed Scott takes over GH, he would kill it over there. I just was the biatch known as JFP unemployed.

Can you say more about this?

Bill Bell stepped down in 1999, right? So, the way I heard it was that there was an increasing control for power between Kay Alden and Ed Scott. In the end, it really flamed out...like when Scott hired Christopher Douglas as Jill Abbott's computer-nerd boyfriend Sean...and Kay Alden didn't like it. She wanted a nerd. Which is why Douglas got fired and replaced by David Lee Russek. Of course, that was forgettable, and I think Russek lasted less than a year, most of it on the backburner.

It was into these skirmishes, I think, I heard that the Bells were asked to pick sides, and ultimately opted for Kay Alden, and Scott was replaced by Shaughnessy.

Obviously, things did not improve, because before too long Brad Bell gave up Jack Smith, and Smith became EP and co-HW at Y&R. Someone else can help get these facts straight, and I never really knew the total chronology and all.

Was it REALLY CBS that got rid of him, or was it the Bells or Sony? And how did he get persuaded to come back?

Can you say more about this?

Bill Bell stepped down in 1999, right? So, the way I heard it was that there was an increasing control for power between Kay Alden and Ed Scott. In the end, it really flamed out...like when Scott hired Christopher Douglas as Jill Abbott's computer-nerd boyfriend Sean...and Kay Alden didn't like it. She wanted a nerd. Which is why Douglas got fired and replaced by David Lee Russek. Of course, that was forgettable, and I think Russek lasted less than a year, most of it on the backburner.

It was into these skirmishes, I think, I heard that the Bells were asked to pick sides, and ultimately opted for Kay Alden, and Scott was replaced by Shaughnessy.

Obviously, things did not improve, because before too long Brad Bell gave up Jack Smith, and Smith became EP and co-HW at Y&R. Someone else can help get these facts straight, and I never really knew the total chronology and all.

Was it REALLY CBS that got rid of him, or was it the Bells or Sony? And how did he get persuaded to come back?

Bill Bell stepped down as HW in 1998...Kay Alden had been Co-HW since 1997 and of course had worked at Y&R since 1974. That being said, Bill was still very involved in the writing up until around 2002/2003 when his illness became quite extreme.

Alden and Ed Scott did not get along. They never did. Alden thought Scott should stick to producing, being on set etc etc. Scott disagreed. Things came to conclusion with the Christopher Douglas/David Lee Russek fiasco. Sony asked the Bells who they wanted to fire. The Bells said fire Scott. Scott was fired.

He returned as Supervising Producer in 2004. I don't know what happened with his return. As SP he didn't have the pull he did as EP. It also helped that Alden had less of a role, she was essentially Jack Smith's Co-HW, his worker bee, arguably the job she does best, implementing the ideas of someone else.

For the record CBS has NEVER fired anyone on Y&R. Legally, they have absolutely no right to anything at Y&R. CBS doesn't own Y&R or any soap for that matter. For this reason Bloom does not and will never have the power she craves. The only thing CBS has to do with Y&R is act as it's broadcaster and pay the licensing fee.

Also, it is evident that Scott is more aligned with Sony than the Bells. He survived the LML purge and was sent to DAYS (another Sony interest), Brad Bell, Kay Alden and Jack Smith all dislike Scott.

WHY??? Why did he have to bring this on himself. He did a better job than any co-exec for our show than any had in recent years....why????

I sat out of the debate during the Higley/Scott/Ali saga because it was all just too much. I love juicy gossip, but in this case I knew it was true....and I just couldn't bring myself to get in on it. Somethings are better left out of the mags and press. I know there are people who disagree and think that all backstage drama should be allowed to permiate into the public domain, but folks, I think it hurts the industry. When the goings on backstage overshaddow what is happening onscreen, and the focus of the viewer becomes transfixed upon who's controlling what, and who is ethical and who's not; trouble ensues and the show ceases to be about the show. Daytime is in enough trouble as it is without tainting fandom with backstage drama. It doesn't increase viewer investment in the show, it just increases the perception that daytime is the Titantic, with the remaining individuals involved in this indistry are playing the violins collectively as she sinks.

Do you not think Ed knew this was coming? I hate that this happened and think that Days will not look as good, or be as good now that he's gone. He encouraged actor creativity and ingenuity. He rose moral by convincing the battle worn cast and crew that a comeback was not just possible, but probable as long as a quality product was placed in front of ther viewers, and that longtime fans could return of they saw the "real" Days again. The show that Ted created, Betty produced, and Bell etched into public conciousness. BUT Ed saw it coming. No matter who his firends were in this business, he had broken the rules and handed the power back to Ken Corday. He didn't just condone over throwing Higley (Daytime's worst headwriter at the moment, and will share the blame when Days is finally not renewed next year with her bedfellow Ken), he participated, and in some instances intiated what was in his eyes an important step in establishing a decent watchable story. In truth he violated ethical rules. In his eyes, he was trying to save the show from the most poisonous pen in exisistance ( atleast currently). This allowed Ken to have a case to get rid of him. Ken is a very, very, very jealous person, and doesn't like it when anyone is viewed as more talented than himself. This entire mess was like a present in ken's lap, just waiting to be unwrapped. He must have been like a giddy mid on Christmas morning. Sure, he likes Higley (since she acts like Ken hung the moon and sings his praise like a soprano in a church choir). But this was more about an opportunity to rid himself of a better answer to his messed up, unrecognizable show.

So, we get Tomlin......might as well have Wyman. Actually, Wyman may be better. In any case, Days will not be as good, Higley will now destry it, and Corday will go down with the ship.

Any news on the second firing yet?

Any news on the second firing yet?

Nelson said he was going to update his SUDS Report column on Saturday with that information, but it hasn't happened so far. Maybe he'll do it later today or even tomorrow.

Nelsons probably just blowing smoke out his ass, again!

Have to disagree with you there..We've had some excellent dialog this week, especially the Tony and Stefano scenes earlier in the week..

OK the scenes between Tony and Stefano were fine but the rest was like watching a bad horror movie. The scenes with Steve and Kayla working with the fake baby was ridiculous. And Sami with her hysterics and overacting were too much.

I just checked Nelsons report and he has updated it with the newest firing. He reports that Josh Griffith has been fired as EP of Y&R.

http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/The+Suds+R...lson.htm?isfa=1

Here's the full report for anyone who wants to read it

STATE OF EMERGENCY — Dena Higley, 2; Soap World, 0

This Just In: Ed Scott fired! Gary Tomlin unconfirmed as his replacement! Plus: Josh Griffith out, too?

BURBANK/HOLLYWOOD — Nail. Coffin. The soapocalyspe has officially arrived. Late Friday night, daytimeconfidential.com’s and Suds Report contributor Jamey Giddens broke exclusive news revealing Days of our Lives fired Emmy- winning venerable producer Ed Scott from his post as co-head of the embattled soap opera that very same day. His replacement is rumoured to be Emmy-winning veteran producer/writer Gary Tomlin. An official announcement heralding Tomlin’s appointment is expected sometime early this week. Reps for Sony/Days are currently in the process of soliciting confirmations for The Suds Report regarding these shocking backstage comings and goings.

The Suds Report broke the sensational news of a possible mutiny at Days of our Lives on July 24 after various industry and soap insiders informed this reporter that Scott and “one diva, along with a handful of other actors,” were re-writing head writer Dena Higley’s dialogue, and long-term story — which is in direct violation of minimum basic agreement between the Writer Guild of America and the union of producers. Sources added that “photographic proof” was sent to the WGA to support Higley’s claims.

Days head writer Higley, who the WGA is also investigating for scab writing during the writers’ strike, apparently threatened to quit or walked off the set while executive producer Ken Corday was away on a work trip or vacation.

Although it’s no secret that Days executive producer (and owner) Ken Corday is “a Dena Higley fan and loyal supporter,” sources explain his decision was very easy. A source close to the production states, “Ken’s hands were tied; he was forced to fire Scott because of the WGA’s investigations. There was no way of handling this internally.”

Moments after Giddens’ bombshell scoop aired online, The Suds Report soon learned The Young and the Restless executive producer Josh Griffith was also given his walking papers on the very same day. Astute Suds readers will remember TVGuide.ca broke news suggesting CBS chief Barbara Bloom was angling to replace Griffith this past June. The reason? Griffith was also reportedly re-writing Maria Arena Bell’s scripts. However, after the Writers Guild of America sent a cease-and-desist letter to the Y&R studios, “Josh stopped hijacking scripts immediately, but everyone still wanted him fired,” points out a snitch. One can only assume Paul Rauch, who recently served as a consultant on Y&R on a short-term contract, will most likely inherit the top spot on daytime’s No. 1 soap opera.

Many in the industry claim Higley saw Scott and company’s coup d’etat as a way out of the scabbing charges she is currently facing for writing Days during the writers’ strike this past winter. “This is all Ken Corday’s fault,” fumes a source close to Scott. “He had no business firing an entire writing team who went on strike in favour of its [suspected] scab writer. What Ed and [the actress] did was wrong, yes, but can you really blame them?”

The Burbank studio was polarized by this epic war for power between Scott and Corday/Higley.

In a medium which encourages actors produce, writers produce, and producers write, it appears “no one does the job they are hired for anymore,” laments an industry pundit. One could argue that in other mediums we see artistic crossovers, but the majority of them finance their projects themselves, and/or give up salary in return for the opportunity to stretch their wings.

Scott was instrumental in streamlining Days’ budget and production, along with luring superstar talent to its side of the pond. Only time will tell if his dismissal will influence NBC to let go of its lone soap come renewal time next year. Moreover, the artistic fallout may be too destructive to survive. Many writers and producers are still livid with Corday for firing its writing staff during the strike — which include Tom Casiello, Gordon Rayfield (the only writer to have been rehired; he’s now at ATWT), Frederick Johnson, Judy Tate, Judith Donato, and Richard Backusin. Y&R also fired its striking writers after the picket lines were closed down (Lynn Latham, Bernard Lechowick, Marina Alburger, and Lynsey Dufour) in favour of fi-core writers like Maria Arena Bell and Josh Griffith.

So can Tomlin help steer back Days on course? Many don’t think so as long as Higley is still head-writing the soap. However, it’s important to note that Emmy-winning producer Tomlin won One Life to Live its only best drama win in its 40-year history. Tomlin isn’t unfamiliar with Days — he was co-head writer from 1980-81. Most recently, Tomlin went fi-core during the strike to pen OLTL. During his time there, several ABC sources inform a shocked Suds Report breakout head writer Ron Carlivati almost lost his job during the strike because of Tomlin. Unfortunately, tangible reasons for why ABC would replace Carlivati with Tomlin are unclear. Personally, I’m not a fan of fi-core scribes either because I consider this status passive-aggressive scabbing.

Which leads any sane person to ask: why are all the fi-core writers still working, yet artists who defend their profession are unemployed? It makes you almost sick to your stomach. And yet, the WGA is seemingly taking its sweet time investigating Higley for allegedly scabbing.

A WGA source offers insight, saying, “There’s only one thing worse than a scabber in our eyes, and that’s a producer writing scripts.”

Sadly, Ed Scott fans, which include this reporter, cannot expect the former Y&R producer to reclaim his position in Genoa City. “Because Josh Griffith was re-writing Maria’s scripts, they can not infuriate the WGA any further by bringing in Scott, who is accused of doing the same thing at Days. And that also means Scott’s ideal Higley replacement, Griffith won’t be allowed anywhere near Days, either. They — and us — are both screwed royally.”

And so are the viewers.

Edited August 17, 200817 yr by detroitpiston

Nothing new, but this is from SOD's Breaking News Section:

http://www.soapoperadigest.com/news/breaking/

Big DAYS Shakeup!

Ed Scott was relieved of his Co-Executive Producer duties at DAYS OF OUR LIVES at the end of the work day Friday. He will be replaced by Gary Tomlin, whose long list of soap credits includes EP of SUNSET BEACH. The move comes close on the heels of reported tension between Scott and Head Writer Dena Higley and rumors of Scott allowing actors to change scripts. "Ed seemed fine at work on Friday," reports a setsider. "It had to come as a big surprise to him."

Edited August 18, 200817 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

Nothing new, but this is from SOD's Breaking News Section:

http://www.soapoperadigest.com/news/breaking/

Does SOD say aything about SOW's change at the top?

I didn't think so. Nothing like honest reporting....

http://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/index.p...st&p=482554

And Toups gets his #1 EP wish from a year ago...

But will I get my #1 HW? We shall see! LOL

Anyway, I thought this thread was relevant enough to be bumped.

ETA: Sorry for bumping that old thread before.

Anway, I'm just afraid of what Dena's gonna do now she's in full control. Nobody's gonna stop her now.

Anway, I'm just afraid of what Dena's gonna do now she's in full control. Nobody's gonna stop her now.

Kind of sounds like what JR said before Bobby was shot on Dallas.