LMAO.

Who is the new avatar?

Ozwald Boateng. Cat inspired me with her Carine Roitfeld recent avatar.

And for those bemoaning the absence of Susan Flannery lately, Brandon Beemer in a recent interview said he's started taping scenes with her

for a top secret SL, it looks like Owen and Stephanie team up.

I think it could be deeper than that. I don't know why but I have an inkling they've planned something explosive for the Owen character that isn't the kind of storyline we're used to getting on B&B these days. Either a long standing vendetta against the Forresters or a family tie to them. It's certainly not as simple as him being interested in Donna.

Edited July 30, 200817 yr by JamesF

I think it could be deeper than that. I don't know why but I have an inkling they've planned something explosive for the Owen character that isn't the kind of storyline we're used to getting on B&B these days. Either a long standing vendetta against the Forresters or a family tie to them. It's certainly not as simple as him being interested in Donna.

I think they are really invested in making the Owen character work. Out of all the newbies they've had on in the last few years (and by newbies I don't mean recasts/SORASed Forrester kids), only really Jack Wagner and, through him, Lesley Anne Down, have really lasted. The Marones didn't work, neither did the Ramirez', or Shane or Harry or any of the other characters we've had in the last few years, so it seems the Logans are now the second family of B&B...but it does seem they want Owen to stick around for the long haul.

KKL and Susan Flannery? That would be a huge blow to B&B. They are the show's premier Supercouple. No offense to John McCook, but neither he nor Ronn Moss can carry this soap alone. And anyway -- B&B has always been about its alpha females! Its Stephanies and Carolines and Brookes and Sheilas and Taylors and Macys.

IMO, only Lesli Kay and Eileen Davidson have what it takes to step up and become a premier lead on the show (I'm still not totally sold on Heather Tom 24/7 although I liked her Katie when she was no-nonsense, witty and self-deprecating). Jennifer Gareis is great as the Marilyn Monroe-esque Donna but that is a supporting actress role, not a lead. Hunter Tylo could be again, but right now she's probably having a well-deserved break.

If B&B were smart they would start pitting Ashley against Felicia - ina way that works. They dont have to be mortal enemies, but they can not likee achother - and be forced to work together. Make Felicia take on the Stephanie role. Put Ashley in the rootable heroine role. They dont need to have that brooke/steph relationship, but i could so see LK & ED playing off eachother and keeping that going, in a new direction. ya know what i mean?

B&B has the talent. They just dont use it.

If B&B were smart they would start pitting Ashley against Felicia - ina way that works. They dont have to be mortal enemies, but they can not likee achother - and be forced to work together. Make Felicia take on the Stephanie role. Put Ashley in the rootable heroine role. They dont need to have that brooke/steph relationship, but i could so see LK & ED playing off eachother and keeping that going, in a new direction. ya know what i mean?

B&B has the talent. They just dont use it.

I do see what you mean. Frenemies. A move from the Steph/Brooke power struggle which is totally played out.

Felicia (, Owen) and/vs Ashley sounds like music to my ears. It almost makes me want SF and KKL (no disrespect) gone, like yesterday. lol

I long for the day when Brooke is no longer on my screen.

I see the need for Felicia to become the new dominate female character. I think Lesli Kay can handle it. Eileen has a good look on B&B so Ashley needs to be established as some sort of dominate presence as well. What if she took over Spectra? She could certainly afford(I think) and that would give her the chance to play a sultry, campy Ashley. Bridget can take over for the new generation Logans. I honestly don't see Heather Tom on B&B for the long haul but I think Gareis is. So Donna can stay in the antagonist role. And Owen can be like Brad from Y&R: A sexy schemer out only for himself. I think Beemer could be really great in this role.

B&B has the pieces to make the puzzle come together. They just need the focus and direction.

Edited August 1, 200817 yr by Queen

I'm surprised no one has mentioned a recast. Every other Logan has been recast. Would it be difficult to find the right actress? Probably. But I could see the show writing Brooke off to Europe for a few months and then come back with a new actress playing the part. The show has chosen to recast her a few times before during maternity leaves when they could have easily written Brooke out of town.

I personally would not want KKL to leave. With the right actress taking over though, it could breathe some new life into Brooke.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned a recast. Every other Logan has been recast. Would it be difficult to find the right actress? Probably. But I could see the show writing Brooke off to Europe for a few months and then come back with a new actress playing the part. The show has chosen to recast her a few times before during maternity leaves when they could have easily written Brooke out of town.

I personally would not want KKL to leave. With the right actress taking over though, it could breathe some new life into Brooke.

You make a good point. Recasting a 20+ year vet is a risky move, but it is always possible that they'll go there and maybe they should.

I think they are really invested in making the Owen character work. Out of all the newbies they've had on in the last few years (and by newbies I don't mean recasts/SORASed Forrester kids), only really Jack Wagner and, through him, Lesley Anne Down, have really lasted. The Marones didn't work, neither did the Ramirez', or Shane or Harry or any of the other characters we've had in the last few years, so it seems the Logans are now the second family of B&B...but it does seem they want Owen to stick around for the long haul.

Owen seems poised to be a new Deacon-esq character. B&B has lacked a decent villain for a while.

If KKL were to leave, B&B does not need to recast. They already have a blonde, romantic chemist, a fully-fledged multidimensional character: Ashley.

If KKL were to leave, B&B does not need to recast. They already have a blonde, romantic chemist, a fully-fledged multidimensional character: Ashley.

I've never said this before, but WORD!!

(that said, Victor is single in Genoa City, and I stand by my prediction that Ash will return home for good in December!)

Ashley belongs on Y&R not B&B

Ashley belongs on Y&R not B&B

Does she, though? Last time she was on Y&R, the character of Ashley was being routinely trashed on the threads here (and elsewhere) -- and on the show. Here, there were constant calls of "sperm pig" and screams of protest if Ashley was even seen to be talking to TGVN. On the show, Ash was pitted against Gloria and always coming out the loser.

When she arrived on B&B, though, Ashley was a breath of fresh air. She was funny, dynamic, independent, romantic, glamourous and had chemistry with everybody on the show and a block of wood (or as he's more commonly known, Ronn Moss). We haven't seen her in a while and I have really been missing her.

I don't think KKL is going anywhere, but I have no idea what TPTB plan to do with Brooke now that Donna is the Logan vixen hated by the Forresters. KKL is too young (and too hot) to play JUST a mother to Rick and Bridget. The Ridge romance is played out and she has been married to all men on the show except Owen.

My idea: Have Ridge remarry Taylor, bring a RECAST Thomas and have Ridge run Forrester with a bitter Brooke. Bring a talented child actor to portray a spoiled R.J., whom Brooke uses to be a part of Ridge's life.