2 minutes ago, Elsa said:

 

The Clay/Ava idea sounds good, but I never cared for RM or JH in the role (for different reasons). Once the charismatic Roya was gone and the Alex Masters saga started I was done with them.  All of the sudden the aristocratic Clay was involved in a mess straight out of Days and GH. The Aldens were not the family for this kind of story. Could you imagine John or Jack Abbott in a Rambo saga? 

 

Lisa Peluso' s Ava was an airhead. Roya's character hid her pain behind her greed. 

 

Oh yeah the prisoner of war stuff with the two Clays? 

 

I think both Avas had a certain childishness to them but Roya parlayed it with her poise so we got a different vibe. 

 

@slick jones there are some names on here you may not have. @NothinButAttitude this is another Rick episode if you wanted to see more of him.

 

It feels like Loving tends to pour rather than rain when it comes to uploads - a few pop up right around the same time, then nothing for ages. 

 

I haven't seen much of this time period...sometimes I forget Ann was still around by this time. I wish we'd seen all of her bitchfest with Gwyn. I just love watching Gwyn in these days, as Christine Tudor is such a force of nature. Only GL came close to having this type of vibrant anti-heroine around this period of time. 

 

Perry Stephens was such a beautiful man.

 

Always nice to see a little of Colleen Dion, one of my picks for most underrated soap actors. 

 

I never cease to be amazed at how good Loving looks, even on a budget - moreso than many other soaps around this time. They must have had a talented design and visual team. 

 

So did Loving have a beauty credit around this point? (I wish soaps had never done away with those)

Edited January 28, 20205 yr by DRW50

Thanks @DRW50! I am going to watch this later on. 😊

8 hours ago, DRW50 said:

I never cease to be amazed at how good Loving looks, even on a budget - moreso than many other soaps around this time. They must have had a talented design and visual team.

 

The truth is, a team that's talented and dedicated to putting on the best show possible could work even with NO budget if they had to.  If today's soaps look crappy even next to "Loving," then it's because they have people in charge who gave up a long time ago or weren't that talented to begin with.

8 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

 

I never cease to be amazed at how good Loving looks, even on a budget - moreso than many other soaps around this time. They must have had a talented design and visual team. 

I didn't know Loving had a small budget. Loving always looked really good. It looks just as good as any soap from that era.

Edited January 28, 20205 yr by victoria foxton

5 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

I didn't know Loving had a small budget. Loving always looked really good. It looks just as good as any soap from that era.

 

I was just assuming considering the lower ratings compared to the big soaps, but I may be wrong. 

Pannoni4 other channel uploaded another clip. 

 

Wow. This is Steve's death storyline, isn't it? 

 

Not sure if @juniorz1  comes here anymore but they may want to see this clip.

 

Nicole Orth-Pallavinci - wasn't she the last Melinda on OLTL?

 

Jacqueline Courtney credited as "announcer." So I guess she must have made some intro for this episode?? Wish we couldn't heard it. This was after her gig as a madam, right?

Awe, I was def a fan of Cecilia, and her and Rick. Did not like the recasted Lily. 

11 hours ago, rlj said:

Awe, I was def a fan of Cecilia, and her and Rick. Did not like the recasted Lily. 

 

What was Cecilia's exit story? I can't remember. I know they recast her a few times. I wish they'd kept her longer. 

8 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

What was Cecilia's exit story? I can't remember. I know they recast her a few times. I wish they'd kept her longer. 

 

I think she left town with Tony Benedict, the guy who was renting a room at Kate's. 

2 minutes ago, Elsa said:

 

I think she left town with Tony Benedict, the guy who was renting a room at Kate's. 

 

Thanks. I've never seen him. 

 

What did you think of her? 

Thanks, @DRW50 and @victoria foxton both were fun to watch after all these years and I got a few extra date tidbits and names I didn't have.  I'll be including them in the Loving cast list after I finish some "Hoppers".

Thanks for all of these LOVING episodes! It was the little soap that could. We have to remember that the show had a different EP and head writer every year it was on the air! How the crew and cast managed to keep things going to this standard is remarkable. 

My guess would be that LOVING had a budget on the same scale as B&B did during the period, hence the quality. Both were sold overseas and extremely popular in Italy. Fremantle handled the international sales for LOVING (as well as PRICE IS RIGHT) while the Bells had B&B. This is a guess, but knowing they were each owned by their creators, not the network, and rented one studio from the network, they were probably well-funded due to their international sales in addition to their domestic licensing fees (aka budget).

9 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

Thanks. I've never seen him. 

 

What did you think of her? 

 

Tony had a flirtation with Ava and from what I remember he had a "mysterious past", he was a doctor or something. (Shades of Y&R's Brad Elliot?)

 

I liked Alice Haining and Colleen Dion as Cecelia. Rebecca Staab was kind of blant (or she just reminded me of a very bad GL era). The character could have been around for years as the show's blue-collar Lauren Fenmore against Trisha or Stacey.