Santa Barbara Discussion Thread

[amybrickwallace]

Same here. Nothing against Kristen Meadows, but the character was just annoying. I can't believe she lasted over 2 1/2 years.

[Marissa Gallant]

And I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I DO like Caroline. And Lionel must have really loved her because he stayed with her and didn't rush immediately to Sophia when Eden "died" in Utah. 

[amybrickwallace]

I think Lenore Kasdorf could have been a good long-term fit on SB, but 1986-87 was such a crazy time with comings and goings. She just seemed to get lost in the shuffle.

[Marissa Gallant]

I really think the character had potential. Especially if Augusta came back. And I really loved excited Alice. Didn't like cynical Alice as much. Am getting very tired of Ted and Hayley's endless fighting. 

Right now, I'm here for Julia. And the occasional glimpses of Sophia.

[Beach Climber]

I didn’t either. Maybe because they kept having to her go on about how she was glad she didn’t have to do this alone when she found out Julia was pregnant and she was the one who chose to lie to Cruz. Then when she figured out Mason was Julia’s baby daddy, she went off the deep rail trying to ensure that Mason had nothing to do with the baby and would offer no financial support to her. 

Her exit was leaving town for an acting job. It sounded temporary but she never returned. Her character was disliked but I think that’s expected when you come on as a foil for the show’s most popular couple and then she had the bad luck of Mason/Julia becoming popular since they turned her into the spoiler when it was supposed to be the other way around. Fans of Cruz/Eden and/or Mason/Julia made up a good portion of the audience. I also think she, like many others, floundered once she was moved away from the Capwells. The writers quickly lost interest in characters once they left that sphere. 

[amybrickwallace]

I never figured out why she was never reviled by both the Capwells and Castillos after all that. Tori caused a lot of damage and should have left town in disgrace.

[Marissa Gallant]

She should have been hated as much as the audience hated her. Someone in production must have really LOVED her, because they certainly kept trying to get US to love her. 

[amybrickwallace]

True. I also got the impression that the characters all felt sorry for Tori because no one really seemed to genuinely like her all that much.

[Sapounopera]

I never understood the point of Tori's story with John Wesley Shipp's character. 

PS: I adore Lenore Karsdorf and felt that Caroline was Rita Stapleton 2.0 for the Dobson.

[amybrickwallace]

I wonder why it ultimately didn't work out.

[Marissa Gallant]

That is true. I do like that I have seen Lane do a few snippets of Shakespeare because of Tori. However, the character is just AHHHH- I want to smack her. I just saw the episode where she finds out about the baby contract, and she screeches Mason you're disgusting! And I'm like uh- you're a rapist, so are you really wanting to say,  I'm not good enough for you.

I think perhaps people hadn't let go of Augusta, so Caroline never stood a chance.

I'm really not enjoying the mystery illness, fever, virus with the special serum storyline. Maybe because of well, you know...

[Sapounopera]

Wasn't she one of the reasons why the Dobsons were mad at Ann Howard Bailey? She was the one who wanted to kill off the character, right?

[DRW50]

I believe so, yes. 

[Marissa Gallant]

Scenes We Would Love to See: CC tells Sophia about Samantha's father. CC pipes up about Mason choosing the boy. Sophia blasts his ass by pointing out that CC forced Mason to protect Eden and that this is what CC asked for.

What are some scenes you want to see?

[Khan]

Yep.  The Dobsons believed that Caroline had long-term potential, but Anne Howard Bailey and Charles Pratt, Jr. were just so terribly short-sighted.