NothinButAttitude

This is why I wish that they either had brought back Miami or aired Melbourne in a primetime slot. We have two months to suffer through until RHOA & RHOBH return. And Jersey ain't doing it for me this season. It's falling flat.

Don't know if anyone posted these on here already. But if so, ignore them. SN: I didn't know that Paul was engaged to a hooker named Cindy. Damn. Paul stays losing when it comes to life. He cannot catch a break for anything.

I'm having housewives withdrawals too. And I see that they are trying to use Shahs as a filler but they aren't going to be able to fill it either. Especially since 99% of the cast [minus my precious GG] is trash. But I keep telling myself to be patient and pray that when RHOA returns, it runs till May like they did last season. And I am going to shockingly miss the OC too! They impressed me this season. I just hope that they keep these five women [yes, even gutter butt as Tamra], but add or bring back two women from the past. I need season 10 to be epic.

I think with all the creative minds on this board combined, we could form 4 great writing teams to run the remaining four.

You're welcome. Were the McCleary clan supposed to be SFT's carbon copy to the Ryans [of RH]? From the bar set [which looked a lot like the Ryan's bar] to the McCleary family being Irish and big [in family size]....

So do you! I learn so much from you too. I can always count on someone on this board to answer a question when it comes to soaps before my time. Or life in general. My extended family. Group hug! I love you two! I love you all!

What is the story with the Kendall clan? What happened to Alec? Justine annoys me and this is already three episodes in. It's just something about her that does not mesh well with me. I so glad that Liza loosened up and finally got into that sleeping bag with Kentucky. I hope the threw him the 'hello kitty' because I know I would if I was in her position. I was a little confused with Cord's reaction when he was talking to Martin and Stu. Does he have feelings for Liza or is he fretting b/c his business career might be in peril?

Good lord. I normally don't care for quads involving siblings as they aren't written with balance and they are typically one sided, but this is quad I'd love to see from start to finish. I'd really love to see the scenes of Lorie learning that Leslie is carrying Lance's child. I know it had to be hard for Lorie to lose once again Leslie. See this is why I want the Brooks/Prentiss/Foster clans to reemerge on Y&R. It's still so much that could be told between Chris, Snapper, Greg, Lorie, Lucas, Lance, and Leslie and add on a newer generation of this extended family (i.e. Jennifer, Brooks, Chucky, and any other possible children) and it'd be way more interesting [with a capable writer] than what's going on right now.

I'd like Cat on either show [OC or NYC]. Preferably OC because she'd be another person to call Trashra out. And I am glad that someone else is pissed that Bravo pulled the plug so easily. RHODC had so much potential and it showed during the two part reunion. Especially, when the husbands joined them in the second part and Michale's husband was antagonizing the women. Yeah, and I could not see Cat on Ladies of London. She'd be overkill because her, Caroline, and Annabelle have the same personalities. Carole could've possibly worked season 4 of NYC but thinking about it, I don't know which group she'd fit with. Season 4 focused so much on the blonds vs. brunettes, but I'd see Carole gravitating towards the blonds that season. I don't see her meshing well with Jill [as she's catastrophic like Aviva] or Kelly [as she's too deluded].

Probably. You're good taste in classic soaps is rubbing off on me.

I think the paralysis story was a horrible choice too but it did bring about some good performances.

So Justine was the one that Suzi shot accidentally when Warren supposedly put real bullets in Suzi's gun? Something like that.

But I loved Jackson. Marc Silcock was HOT! *sighs* Why hasn't he landed anything as of late?!

You're welcome. The poster on YT I am subscribed to posted them last night and I was going to put them up then but I fell asleep.

I miss Miami too. I feel like Miami's problem was that like many franchises now, Bravo wouldn't allow them to build an audience. Bravo was to pull the trigger and demolish the cast too quick. RHOM season 2 was one of my favorite housewives seasons. Along with the reunion. The dynamic between the eight women [Lea/Marysol/Karent/Ana/Adriana/Alexia/Joanna/Lisa] was on point. Especially after their reunion. I know a lot of people loathed Ana on here [i loved her], but she set the foundation for season 3 had Bravo let it organically played out. Instead of the season focusing too much on Adriana v. Joanna's weddings, it could've been Las Cubanas [Marysol/Ana/Alexia/Adriana] V. Team Black [Lea/Joanna/Karent/Lisa], thus giving us RHOA s4 or RHONY s4 & 5 vibes. Two factions going at it at all times with people crossing enemy lines at all times. How would the women react to Lisa/Adriana's friendship? Or Joanna/Ana's friendship? Or Lea/Alexia's friendship? Bravo should've made Lea suck it up with all the evidence Ana had on her and showed it. They should've fought harder to keep Ana [who was over it after the reunion]. They shouldn't've impulsively fired Karent. RHOM season 3 practically wrote itself had Bravo sat back and let the sh*t hit the floor. RHOM would've been a hit and we'd be watching season 4 right now. Same thing with RHODC. Had Bravo not pulled the plug so fast, we'd probably watching s3 right now. They too had the right combo in the end. And season two would've been epic as all the women [minus Lynda] relationships ended. Especially, Michaele running off the rock star. Just epic. And bump Staci's friend, Erica, to full time housewife and season 2 would've been popping and we could be watching their 3rd/4th season by now. I really have Andy/Bravo sometimes.

Was this around the time that Lorie was trying to woo Lucas back to GC for Vanessa [from what I've read]? Also was Lorie on the 'outs' with Lance at this point? And Lucas had feelings for Lorie too? From what I've read on the history of the show, it always came off like Lucas was in love with Leslie. I didn't know that he had feeling for Lorie too. Talk about one incestuous quad filled with mixed feelings oozing from everyone.

Someone I am subscribed to on YT posted this lovely little treasure this morning: ETA: I didn't know Will Patton was on SFT! He's sexy then as he is now! What's the story with Kentucky Bluebird and Liza if anyone remembers? Who are these red-headed girls? The one with Chase and the one slumming on Wendy's couch? What's the story with them? And Queen Sherry.... I've fallen in love with this women. She gives me 80s soap diva--melodramatic but endearing at the same time. She gives me 'old Hollywood.' From her looks, to her acting. I enjoy it. I also didn't know John Aniston was still on the show at this time from what I've read. I thought he was already gone by then and moved onto DAYS. I wonder why NBC didn't try and snag more Search actors after it's demise. They seemed to have a solid cast from what little I've seen.

Two episodes of EON from 1984: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyUJR6p5Rvs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSihmH1cVFc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NmrB3fTQbQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54zH7MHgSJ8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGvuGclSESw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMYLHnoos0o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2Chrcwqih8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEKVYLFWuZ4

Thanks, Sungrey. I was beginning to get worried that we lost another good soap site for good.

But the ratings drop isn't because of her. It's a combination of Bravo pushing the show way back and abruptly getting rid of Alex, who was popular with the audience and Jill, who was a love-to-hate villain on the show. And after two season, we still haven't built and personal relationship with the new girls with the exception of Aviva, who gave us [well force fed us] their personal lives. Carole is just known for her snark. Kristen is known for whining. Heather is known for being a bitch pit bull. I do think that she is the 'star' of the show but she does not deserve Nene's asking amount. With their ratings, Ramona should be glad if she makes 100k per season. See this is why I loved Miami and why they should've just kept retooling the show. The women asked for very little [i heard they were all making about 50k a season], and the show just needed some retooling. Well really they didn't. Season two cast was perfect. They should've kept Karent and Ana, dropped Marysol to a friend [as Mama Elsa was suffering from a stroke], and give Alexia her [Marysol's] place.

I'm sorry but Carole, Heather, and Kristen cannot carry RHONY. They are part of the reason this franchise has died. Fans don't connect with them [along with Aviva], hence why they've tuned out in mass numbers. Bravo better just keep Luann and Ramona, woo back Alex and Jill, and as someone mentioned earlier, bring on someone like Jennifer Williams [from BBWives] to the show. She already has a following and she lives in NYC. Of the two spots left, then they might be able to keep one of the two [Heather, Carole, or Kristen]. Preferably Heather [even though I loathe her] as she's the most confrontational. Carole and Kristen can most definitely go. Both are boring and don't bring anything to the show. Kristin is too rehearsed and it's apparent that Carole uses the show to boost her writing career. Outside of that Carole does not deliver. And I'd think about bringing Kat from RHODC as lucky #7. Her and Luann clashed on WWHL one night, and I'm sure she wouldn't mind being brought back on a Bravo show. Plus, she'll bring the drama. Or bring back nutty Kelly. NYC needs familiar faces at this point. That's what keeps ATL, OC, and BH afloat. They are not afraid to pull out old faces to stir the pot and provide comfort to old fans. NJ is about to do it now with Jacqueline as Dina has failed miserably to deliver. Danielle would've been better if you asked me but I digress.... TBH, it might be time to kiss NYC goodbye. I'd rather they go to newer locations like Honolulu, San Juan, Seattle, Detroit, Dallas, Houston.... Maybe South Central or Compton. Or go international and either revive Vancouver or do a Toronto housewives. Or just replace NYC with Melbourne.

Oh wow. I didn't know that about Danny Miller. Seriously though, I am growing tired of straight, young male actors bitching about playing gay. It's a freaking role. Gays have had to play straight for nearly a century and they still don't complain. This is why I feel that soaps should just hire decent gay actors to play the material. That's why I commend Hollyoaks. They actually had gay actors playing gay characters [i.e. Ste & Doug].

Thanks for another scene. I hope you post some more if possible. How much time passed between clips 3 & 4 if you remember? How much longer before Lorie goes out to search for Lucas, and when Vanessa gets her surgery, thus removing her veil? Commenting on the clip, Vanessa is one crazy ass bi*ch but boy is she one interesting character. I give Bill Bell major props. If anyone knows how to write a lunatic that makes you pity them somewhat [i.e. Vanessa, Eve, Sheila, 90's Phyllis], it was him. Even though it is deplorable what Vanessa did, you can somewhat sympathize with her. Nothing is stronger than a mother's love for her son. Sometimes it is too strong. Now seeing these clips, I can see somewhat that Brad is giving a modern interpretation of the Vanessa in B&B's Quinn, the psychotic mother that'll do anything to remove the competition from her son's life. However, instead of the lover, it's the third wheel {Liam] in Quinn's case.

What were Danny Miller's problems might I ask? Was he having issues with playing a gay character? Or was it something personal? Oh God I forgot that Charity is bisexual. Wasn't she messing with Zoe Tate while married to his brother? That's when I began watching b/c I remember the Kings debuting shortly afterwards and taking over Home Farm. Damn. I miss the Kings. Tom, Matthew, Max, Carl, and my bitchy Sadie. Emmerdale was the bomb then!