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Millette as Sara seems so much older than in the 1973 episodes posted. The severe haircut ages her. Thinking about hairstyles GL had a lot of actresses sporting short do's at one time or another. Jackie, Elizabeth, Sarah, Hilary come to mind. Leslie always had short hair and I think Peggy at one point. Whereas you wouldn't see any Y& R ladies at that time with short hair.

What's worse, apart from the stories bearing no relation to what would actually occur IRL, is that there are no sets or cast to support the stories. It mostly happens in restaurants. The show had Jabot and Newman as the two key businesses in town and they could have been used effectively. Instead we have to start Newman Media, Chancellor Communications and God knows what else. Arabesque, Cassidy One, McCall, Marchetti and on and on. Remember the months spent talking about podcasts and now there's no trace of it. What happened to that game Daniel was developing? We had the train set, now the LA bar sucking up dollars that could be spent elsewhere.Billy got a house that we never see. No more recast villian's from the past. There was no need for Cane or Matt. They could have been clean slate new characters. They really need to do a reset and come up with a more effective way of matching the writing to the budget.

Let's start a new topic- 'List every character from every soap'...

I wonder if CBs should have moved both Magnum and Simon & Simon to Wed.? Either Magnum /Simon or Simon/Magnum. Moving Magnum to Wed worked out OK as Dynasty was weakening. Both shows worked well together so might have both been salvaged by a move to Wed. And something like Twilight Zone and Mike Hammer Thurs. .

Both times CBS moved Knots to 9pm they followed it with a female lead drama - Jessica Novak (reporter) Nurse, and Kay O'Brian (surgeon). All flopped. Knots stayed at 9pm in 81/82 and Nurse took over at 10pm doing better than Novak but there were a lot of bts issues with that show. When Knots finished its run that season CBS went with Cagney & Lacey at 9pm but that didn't work so Simon & Simon was tossed there and bingo ! CBS solved that Thurs issue allowing Knots to head back to 10pm the next season.

AW Susan Trustman had been front burner on AW since the premiere as Pat Matthews but Beverly Penberthy seemed to slot in well. I think the audience was invested in Pat and because Bev was a good actress they went along with it.

Jed Allan as Edward Quartermaine on GH.

I have a vague recollection of Erica or was it Silver and a soap Time and Time Again. Maybe one of them auditioned or was being considered-really can't recall more.

A Patty return had so much potential. Maybe she came back a new confident woman that Jack found intriguing. Patty encourages him only with the intent of dumping and humiliating him. Or she returns still a little fragile but not the full blown psycho we got under MAB. So many better ways they could have gone w/o the ridiculous Emily angle. But it became shock and awe over well written character drama.

See you at ATWT thread.

Fire Don Hastings??? Please explain! GH was never a family based show in the 60's and early 70's. The arrival of the Webber's changed that somewhat, but the Quartermaines were really the first family with parents and children. That was part of the move away from the hospital as the centre of everything.

Thanks @janea4old Really enjoy seeing those stills again.

From Lily's lips- 'it will be tedious and boring' The show is now blatantly describing the week ahead so we won't have any grounds to complain.

At that stage Cosby was unbeatable and the opposition needed to counterprogram and put up with whatever rating they could achieve. CBS weird lineup was not necessary. Just program and hour Twilight Zone and be done with it.

Kay O'Brien debuted in 3rd place in the timeslot up against Hill St Blues and 20/20, 2 well established shows. Wk 1 86/87 season. On Thursday, NBC's powerful comedy lineup carried the evening for the network. For the night, NBC averaged a 26.5/42, while CBS had a 13.2/21 and ABC a 10.7/17. From 8 to 10, Cosby averaged a 35.5/55, Family Ties a 33.4/51, Cheers a 29.7/45, and the season premiere of Night Court a 26.8/41. On CBS, Simon & Simon averaged a 11.8 /18 from 8 to 9, and Knots Landing averaged a 14.7/ 22 from 9 to 10. On ABC, Our World averaged a 6.5/10 from 8 to 9, and The Colbys averaged a 10.5/16 from 9 to 10. From 10 to 11, CBS's new Kay O'Brien averaged a 13.1/23, while NBC's Hill Street Blues averaged a 16.9/29 and ABC's 20/20 pulled in a 15.1/26.

I think Lucas Adams is doing well as Noah. The character seems more dynamic than what we got with Rory Gibson. I'm questioning why Mitch had to be Matt Clark. So far all they've said is 'somehow Matt faked his death' Credibility is stretched for no reason. Why not have Mitch be a new character- a sleazy dude who isn't thrilled to find out Noah is messing with his wife. Everything could have happened in the same way, with Sharon and Nick trying to find out more about Mitch in LA. Or if they wanted a stronger Newman connection, have Mitch be the son/brother of someone Victor had tangled with-there are a lot of them to choose from. He encounters Noah accidentally and then realizes who he is and sees this as an opportunity to plot revenge. And there is still nothing particularly Noir about this story.

Bridget loves Bernie brings up the co stars who met and married. David Birney Bridget Loves Bernie CBS 1972-73 Serpico NBC 1976-77 St Elsewhere NBC 1982-83 1st season only Glitter ABC 1984 Live Shot UPN 1995 Meredith Baxter Birney Bridget Loves Bernie CBS 1972-73 Family ABC 1976-80 Family Ties NBC 1982 -89 The Faculty ABC 1996

Agree but as the LA story goes on, if recent history is anything to go by, it will trudge along and peter out. See: Aristotle Dumas, Mariah' trauma, Ashley's personality disorder, Ashland Locke etc etc.

@dc11786 Your observations on shows like Rituals and Another Life, which I will never get around to watching fully, are as interesting to me as the shows themselves. So keep posting!

That would have been a good angle to explore but Monty and the writer's were probably ignorant or didn't care.

Thanks @jam6242 That episode aired the week of Jan 11-15 1971,going by the promo for the Arthur Godfrey special which aired Sat Jan 16.

How about Keith D Robinson on BTG? I guess we have accepted him as Ted, but I think a lot of us would have been interested to see how Maurice Johnson would have handled the role had he stayed.

It seems that Barbara Rodell,replacing Lynne Adams, was well accepted as Leslie on TGL .So much so that when Lynne took back the role a lot of viewers preferred the chemistry b/w Barbara and Don Stewart as Mike to that of Lynne and Don.

The Lucy Show went through a lot of changes over the course of it's run but still finished at #2 for it's final season. Lucy would hum and ha every year as to whether she would continue. And then she would decide to stay once CBS offered more money. I have to admit the celebrity episodes were usually my least favourites. Lucy would be starstruck each time, even though she had met most of Hollywood, and the scripts were often paper thin, resulting in Lucy and said guest star singing and dancing for what seemed like half the show.

When we see Tomas show something more, I'll buy into that.