Everything posted by Paul Raven
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Y&R: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Watching Lily berate Cane for being a liar etc made me wonder about his previous exit. I recall that Lily was jailed and Cane was supportive -CK left for a while and made occasional appearances and the show tried to find something for Cane to do eg the Traci friendship. But I don't recall any great break up/betrayal that Lily seems to be referring to. Why exactly did they divorce? It seems to me that Josh has done some rewriting to suit the new Cane storyline.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Mrs Kopecki had been around for years but never seen. So I guess when Santos was too ill to appear they decided to have him offscreen by giving him a happy ending and return to his farm. Maybe they said she was too old/or reluctant to return to Oakdale. Re the family farm. The family held on to it? Did John Hughes live there at one point? What happened to it? Maybe it was just forgotten.
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Primetime ratings from the 70's
The year that ABC moved Mork & Mindy and Laverne & Shirley and both those shows suffered and never recovered. Tenspeed & Brownshoe (Ben Vereen/Jeff Goldblum) was much hyped but after a strong start fizzled out. Same with Skag(Karl Malden) strong early ratings bumping up the average. Once Facts of Life was paired with Diff'rent Strokes it took off.
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BTG: Encore Discussion Thread
Sunset Beach had a week of repeats to do some retooling . Not sure of the dates. I guess this a money saving move as much as anything else. Viewing levels are probably way down that week. It would be good that instead of random repeats they actually showed some themed clip episodes eg Mon Dani talks to Pamela and they show some major scenes in her story. It could actually add to character depth as Dani looks back and does some soul searching.Tues could be the Martin story Wed Ted/Nicole etc That would make it more of an event rather than just a cheap ass move that annoys viewers.
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Y&R: June 2025 Discussion Thread
No phone reception, roads washed out,stranded in the maze...ooooh....the excitement of it all. So someone is murdered from the cast assembled there? I (sadly) see only one possibility. Pity it isn't a serial killer. BTW Lauren looked hideous in that Creature from the Blue Lagoon get up. Everything was wrong -from the over processed hair (and face) the gold clutch, dress, jewelry.Good job Mandi &Co. Meanwhile back in GC the heart wrenching life and death struggle of Cole plays out-OFFSCREEN- of course.
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Y&R: June 2025 Discussion Thread
That outdoor set is getting a workout. Can someone explain the chandeliers? You would think they might turn on a fan to give some evidence they are supposed to be outside. Does the #1 soap have any sort of a budget?
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Y&R: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Seeing Connor Floyd onscreen again and gearing how Rory Gibson is bringing it at GH is a reminder how Y&R chose to squander their new young leading men (including Zach Tinker) in favor of the vets. I'm surprised Micheal Mealor survived.
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Soap Hoppers: The Soap Actors And Roles Thread
Requests Bronson Picket Jerome Dempsey Brian cousins
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BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
I agree re Hayley. Yes she has been presented as a little naive but nothing has indicated that it's an act. She has Bill, the money, the tacky house so why lie about a pregnancy? It's not like they've been married for a year and Bill is pressuring her to have a baby. Hayley needs a talk to so we get more of a sense of her character.
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ARTICLE: Mystery Behind Aristotle Dumas Leads ‘The Young And The Restless’ To 11-Week High Among Total Viewers, Continued Year-Over-Year Growth In Key Demos – RATINGS
Reveal and Fallout to Mystery Behind Aristotle Dumas Leads ‘The Young And The Restless’ To New Lows... It does show that viewers starved for anything remotely interesting will tune in. If only Y&R could offer a variety of storylines, characters and sets, viewership might actually go up.
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BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Please give them a home and not just a bedroom.
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BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
My original theory was that a younger Martin was involved with a closeted older man and there was some sort of incident that both sides wanted covered up. But now we know different, although some elements could still be there. Let's hope the explanation works for us.
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BTG: June 2025 Discussion Thread
This is an ongoing issue for me. Martin, the dynamic congressman who is never working. Naomi the idealistic lawyer w/o an office or co workers Vanessa spoke about her team of realtors but no workspace etc And so on... agree re Ted giving Eva so much responsibility. I don't believe Kat was doing all of that either. So much more believable had it been an assistants job. Still enough of a daunting challenge for Eva.
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Soap Opera Cast Lists and Character Guides- Cancelled and Current
SEARCH FOR TOMORROW Mrs. ___ ___ Hansen Bobo Lewis March/April 1982 associate of Dane's who kept sunny captive in Vermont to protect her from danger Tony Burton... Dennis Romer Dec 1982 - Feb 83 manager Liza paid by Rusty to distract Liza by encouraging her music career thus creating a possible rift b/w Travis and Liza. Death arranged by Rusty so he wouldn't tell the Sentells the truth.
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DAYS/Y&R: Casting Shocker!!
Disagree about JT-his Billy is obnoxious and pathetic. And the dumb decision to make Billy and Victoria a signature couple when Victoria was a young adult when Billy was born. At some point everyone seemed to be in the same age range.
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BTG: History, Behind the Scenes Articles & Photos
I get what he is saying-that 'the secret' has put up a wall b/w them, and they are not having much sex I guess, but this pretty much has been up to the audience to infer. If there was a scene where Smitty tried to initiate something and Martin blocked him that would have made it crystal for the audience. Or did I miss that?
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Y&R: June 2025 Discussion Thread
They have really done Billy a disservice by saddling him with Cane and then going out of their way to say he is a whole new character, pretty much acknowledging that Cane #1 was a dud. Pleading for viewers do give him a chance and him saying he is giving it his best shot etc. None of this necessary had he simply been a much needed new character!
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Y&R: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Of course having Cane as another billionaire keeps Y&R on that dreaded path of takeovers, acquisitions and double dealing. all from restaurants and coffee shops. I have to wonder why on God's Green Earth do they think viewers want to see that?? Looking at that motley crew assembled at the plastic plaza just points out the reliance on the vets. They should be background/strong supporting and stepping into A territory when appropriate. Noah, Faith, Allie,Scott,Fen,Chance etc should be prominent. Now would be the time to bring on teen Charlie/Mattie. Imagine if AD had have been a recast Phillip-a handsome 50 something gay man ready to establish himself in GC. Now that might have been interesting.
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Y&R: June 2025 Discussion Thread
This is part of CBS' rebrand of the show as there are virtually no young people in the cast. They're going to try and make 'yound' happen!
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DAYS: Y&R actor joins as recast
So who can from DOOL or GH can Y&R cast as Chance? I still don't understand why Y&R dropped Chance. They tried to move him into the business stuff,deemed that as not working and then made him recurring. They would prefer to keep recycling stories for characters who have been on for decades.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
1976 Pt 5 Since Kim is adamant about a divorce, John starts drinking again. Betsy manages to get Dan and Kim together, but the air is strained, as each thinks the other ended the relationship. ‘Dan’s new patient is Valerie Conway, who crashed her private plane in a fog. Learning Valerie’s identity, Kim goes to the hospital and seems not surprised when Valerie refuses to see her. Kim explains to Bob that Valerie is her sister-in-law but to tell him why Valerie won’t see her would mean violating a confidence of her own late husband, Jason. Valerie later runs into Kim at the hospital, but says only that nothing has changed since Jason’s funeral. Valerie has told only Dan and Bob that she’s in town to settle the Conway farm, which she received in her divorce agreement. Susan is surprised to find that her former patient Kevin Thompson knew Valerie before her visit here. John is delighted to hear that Dan is dating Valerie,but Susan reminds him that his problem with Kim isn’t Dan. Kim’s divorce is final, and she is busy planning her future when John shows up, accusing her of spoiling his life. She manages to get him out, but later learns that he has been drinking at the hospital and has been gone for long periods of time with no excuse. Hearing these same rumors from Susan, Dan asks Kim about them. She explains that her reconciliation failed, and since then John seems to be taking his frustration out in alcohol. Nurse Holland tries to cover for John, but he finally shows up drunk for a medical meeting. When confronted, John angrily accuses everyone of trying to frame him, to steal his wife and his position, everything. John finally has to be restrained. Susan, meanwhile, has confided to Kevin that she stole the tapes and ruined things between Dan and Kim. She is now terrified that John, in a drunken |rampage, will spill it all. Kevin tells her what she already knows-she has to tell Dan herself. Learning of John’s breakdown at the hospital, Susan refuses to see him. Dr. Strassfield presses Kim to see John despite her protests that it’s painful for her. But when she does, he asks her to leave. Grant goes home to speak to Lisa and, finding Dick there, asks him to leave so he and Lisa can talk privately. Lisa angrily tells Grant that Dick is her guest, and Grant coldly tells her he’s getting out of her life right now. He walks out, and Lisa, furious at herself for handling it so badly, tells Dick to get out too. Dick seeks Grant out and apologizes for being in the middle. Grant accepts Dick’s words but drinks too much and forgets that he and Lisa are still separated. He staggers home and undresses and climbs into bed. Lisa returns shortly after and makes a bed for herself on the couch. Grant wakes up in the morning and finds her there asleep. He kisses her, and she wakes up responding to him. They quickly decide they have been silly and stupid and love each other very much. Grant insists they'll go away for a secluded reconciliation. Their friends and family are delighted at the news, but Joyce is badly upset by it. Valerie checks out the Conway property and decides it has possibilities. She is aware that Jay Stallings shows eager interest in her holdings; he informs her he has a land development company and can help her with advice. Valerie is dating both Bob and Dan and is not a little amused by the rivalry she’s encouraging. Valerie begins to explain her coldness toward Kim. She contends that Kim found Valerie’s choice of men unsuitable and, unable to break them up herself, convinced Jason to pay the man off. He accepted the money and left town and died shortly after. Kim refuses to comment at all, as she had promised Jason she never would. Valerie makes less than a good impression on Dan’s children when she arranges a picnic, apparently ‘ignorant of children’s tastes in food. But she tries to overcome her initial poor impression, noting that Betsy in particular makes her disapproval of Dan’s interest in Valerie very apparent. Valerie arranges for Grant to represent her in her countercase against the air- plane rental firm when she sues for her medical bills. When Jay gets an uncompleted call from Kilborne, he tells Tom he’s sure it was Natalie, and he is upset, as he has an imperative meeting on the West Coast and if Natalie tries again she will reach Carol. Tom encourages him to keep the meeting, and he himself goes to Kilborne. He locates Natalie in an out-of-town - motel, and she claims she didn’t make the calls. Tom assures her Jay is really out of town—he’s not just having his secretary say that to get rid of her—and tells her she’s risking Carol’s finding out. Natalie retorts that that’s why their marriage is over—he’s still thinking of Carol first. All of Oakdale is shocked when Nancy and Chris get a call from the family farm informing them that Grandpa Hughes died in his sleep. The services are held in Oakdale, and the entire town turns out to pay its last respects to one of its best-loved and most-respected citizens. *** I wonder what excuses were given for Don and Penny not attending Grandpa's funeral? I wonder if Rosemary Prinz was asked? Surely she would have returned for one or two episodes to honor Santos. Viewers would have loved to see Penny again. Judith Chapman made a movie around that time Scalpel aka False Face which has become something of a cult item. I guess when Natalie was out of town Judith was making that movie.
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Y&R: June 2025 Spoilers
I wonder if anyone else will don swimwear? Hopefully Chance. Lauren looks horrible from head to toe in that picture. The costuming is still way too hit and miss with a strong leaning to the miss.
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One Life to Live Tribute Thread
Pure speculation but in addition to Gottlieb being a very decisive personality eg not really ready to listen to anybody, perhaps there was a bit of resentment from long running castmembers to someone they saw as a newcomer not understanding 'how things are done here' Like any workplace, a new boss comes in with some set ideas, isn't the warmest of personalities and rubs people the wrong way with their expectations that everyone has to be on board. Cliques form around those who are enthusiastic about the new leader, those who go along and keep their heads down and those who resent their perceived power being threatened or simply are unhappy about the changes.
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Guiding Light Discussion Thread
This talk of paycuts-starting with execs-seems the very reason Ellen was plucked out of nowhere to become EP. She was obviously a lot cheaper than someone with at least one EP credit behind them. What was Ellen's trajectory? When did she first start directing and for how long? Did she have any other experience eg some sort of producer capacity before she took on EP?
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Y&R: June 2025 Discussion Thread
Billy Flynn leaning on Josh Griffith's references to The Great Gatsby. Yeah comparing this to an acknowledged literary masterpiece is probably not the wisest move. So basically Cane is a new character with an old name. So pointless. If for whatever reason they decided Billy had to be Cane, he should have returned as a henchman for Aristotle and have Jermaine play the real deal than the other way around. And can we address the continual issue that is Victor Newman and Y&R's steadfast refusal to accommodate the aging of the actor/character. Eric now delivers his lines a few words at a time while looking anywhere but at his scene partner. 'I believe I know...pause...the identity of the man...pause...who calls himself Aristotle Dumas...'