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Re Four Corners CBS really didn't have a suitable slot for it. Nash Bridges was working well on Fri @ 10 and Walker Texas Ranger on Sat @10. A lot of shows got lost because the networks just order a bunch of replacement shows that don't fit well into the schedule at a particular time but because something has flopped they're pressed into service.

I wonder if Nia being 'difficult' was more about her trying to keep some control thrown in at the deep end with various execs who thought they knew better (perhaps they did in some cases) As for Julie Andrews I wasn't aware of that show till now. The fact that it aired at the end of May speaks volumes. Obviously they knew it was a dud, Can't understand why anyone at that time would think Andrews would work in that type of format-she is such a particular type. Maybe more suite to a 'heartwarming' hour show CBS was running third on Tuesday nights, so I guess it was hard for them to break through. The lead in was Bryannt Gumbel who had defected to CBS and his show was running third. The opposition was Dateline NBC and NYPD Blue which were running neck and neck so I guess Four Corners just got lost amongst them.

In Ryan's case it was the fact that he had made the leap from TV to movies and returned to the small screen and that return didn't work out.

Marsha Mason "Sibs" ABC 1991 Ryan O'Neal 'Good Sports' (with Farrah Fawcett) CBS 1991

New series ranking 1978/79 season at Wk 2 of the season Rating Share 5. Galactica (ABC) 26.9 43 8. Mork and Mindy (ABC) 25.4 43 10. Taxi (ABC) 24.7 38 14. VegaS (ABC) 23.9 40 38. People (CBS) 17.2 26 39. Live Wednesday (NBC) 16.9 28 43. WKRP in Cincinnati (CBS) 15.6 25 43. Flying High (CBS) 15.6 28 46. In the Beginning (CBS) 15.4 25 50. Grandpa Goes to Washington(NBC) 14.2 24 52. Kaz (CBS) 14.1 23 55. Eddie Capra Mysteries(NBC) 13.3 24 57. Mary, (CBS) 12.9 21 62. Waverly Wonders (NBC) 11.8 23 Galactica would begin to drop but Mork, Taxi and Vegas all held up. WKRP was moved behind MASH and took off. CBS kept Kaz and Paper Chase for the whole season. Kaz had a couple of timeslot changes while Paper Chase was sacrificed to Happy Days/Laverne and Shirley. NBC cancelled all their new shows with WEB the biggest flop, pulled after a few weeks. 62. American Girls (CBS) 11.8 23 64. Who's Watching the Kids. (NBC) 11.1 20 65. Paper Chase (CBS) 11.0 18 68. W.E.B. (NBC) 10.8 19 67. Apple Pie (ABC) 10.3 20

GH's first foray into primetime 'Twist of Fate' aired Sat Dec 14 1996 at 9pm. #47 CBS Opryland Xmas special 8.7/18 # 61 NBC The Pretender 7.5/14 # 77 ABC GH 'Twist of Fate' 6.2/11 # 78 FOX America's Most Wanted 5.0/11

The Monroes Preview Tues @ 10 14. Dateline NBC 13.1/23 30. The Monroes 10.8/19 69. CBS Movie 7.2/12 Regular timeslot Thurs @ 9 1. Seinfeld 16.9/28 3. Mad About You 16.5/27 52. New York Undercover 8.3/14 70. The Monroes 7.0/12 96. Color Me Barbra 4.2/7 (1960's Streisand special)

Tristan Rogers should watch some old Y&R of Colin if he wants to talk about poor casting, writing and stories.

John McIntyre Helpmate George Emerson Brenda Curtis Judge Harmon Just Plain Bill 1942 Claudia Morgan Light of the World Bathsheba/Delilah Terry O'Sullivan Today's Children John Randolph Young Dr Malone (radio) Dr Cummings

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Kenney has stated he didn't want to leave Y&R but was offered a huge amount by ABC to move to GH. he wasn't thrilled by how Monty had been running GH but that's a story for another day.

Millette Alexander True Story "Confidence Man" 11/16/1957 Betty Stewart

That Judy Kercheval find is amazing! now we just have to find the story that went with Mike marrying Valerie, A 1973 article on Meg Mundy Meg Mundy plays meddling mother-in-law Mona in 'The Doctors' seen locally on Channels 5 and 7 at 2:30 p.m. If you're middle aged you might recognize the face of Meg Mundy, During the 1940s she was a top fashion model. Now she's in a soap opera playing ... One of the nastiest ladies that' s ever been By ANGELA TAYLOR The New York Tlmes News Service To the soap opera fans who settle down to NBC TV's "The Doctors" every afternoon, there seems to be something familiar about the .face of 'Mona Aldrich, the proper Bostonian who is trying to break up her doctor son's marriage with all the skill of a female Machiavelli. And at least to those viewers who have attained middle age there certainly is. Mona Aldrich is played by Meg Mundy. In the 1940s, one couldn't open a fashion magazine without seeing Miss Mundy's elegantly-slim body doing wonders for the small-waisted, full-skirted fashions of the day. Her hair is blond now and doesn't quite set off her ivory skin as did the dark brown locks she had at 19, when John Robert Powers told her she was ho beauty, "but I bet you photograph." She did photograph and still does. Even the middle-age lines around her generous mouth are interesting, and very proper to the character Miss Mundy describes as "one of the nastiest ladies that's ever been, but supposedly with a great deal of charm." Meg Mundy is back to her first love, acting. It was to support herself at acting school that she wandered into the offices of the modeling agencies. "Harry Conover got me my first job," she recalled. "I went to the photographer's studio, but I shook so, he couldn't get a picture." Six months later she was back, without the quivers, and was sent to Vogue for a "go-see." (The term means an interview with a fashion editor to see if the model fits the editor's need.) "I was lucky; Sally Kirkland (then Vogue's fashion editor) liked me and I did my first sitting on the steps of Columbia." Then began the rounds of the top photographers of the times. The late John Rawlings was fatherly and suggested she do something about her "dreadful" hair "I had very long hair then, when all the kids were wearing theirs short." Horst (Horst P. Horst), who was later to do many of her best fashion photographs, turned her down the first time "you're too ugly." And no wonder. "I walked around in any old thing and flat shoes. I never had any exposure to expensive clothes. My parents had been musicians. My mother couldn't have cared less about clothes." But soon the duckling became a proper swan, in high heels, and a hat and gloves. In the black Cavanagh hat box which was the trademark that distinguished the fashion models from their less glamorous sisters around town she carried a bra and a waist-cincher, which were de rigueur for the Dior New Look fashions that had swept the world. Like the other models of the period, she looked considerably older than she was. "It was the thing to look like a chic, elegant woman, mysterious and unreachable. Fashion was a couture rather than a boutique world then. Even though we were girls in our teens and twenties, we looked like grown women." Now the pendulum has swung full way. Today's models look like perpetual teenagers, coltish and "natural." Actually, Miss Mundy points out, they have more artifices to use: false lashes, wigs and complicated makeups to shade their faces. And they can move. "Before the strobe light became a common photographic technique, you had to hold a pose perfectly still. And they were always shooting you with your mouth open." Still, Miss Mundy declares that current models are more beautiful. By today's standards, she and the other popular models of her time Marilynn Ambrose, Muriel Maxwell and Betty McLaughlin might be considered interesting looking, rather than raving beauties. However, their very standoffishness put them on pedestals. Women who recognized them in the street felt the same sort of thrill they might when encountering a movie star. "It was fabulous that people recognized you." They still do but as the dreadful television mother of David O'Brien, one of the "Doctors." Miss Mundy recalls with . a laugh that when her 19-year-old son, Sotos Yannopoulus, worked as a bagger in a Connecticut supermarket last summer, a shopper asked him, "Is that awful woman really your mother?" "I'm glad I modeled," Miss Mundy continued. "The money, $35 to $40 an hour, was good for the times. And the clothes were wonderful. It was truly an esthetic experience to put on a Mainbocher or a Norell or a Galanos." But' she was a child of the stage and the pull was there. Born in London some 50 years ago, the daughter of a singer and a father who was first cellist at Covent Garden, Margaret Mundy came to New York at the age of 8. (She still retains a trace of British accent.) She had musical training piano and voice "but I had no real talent for it." She apparently had enough voice to have sung with ' such diverse bodies as the New York Philharmonic and Kay Thompson's Rhythm Singers, but preferred acting. Her big chance came in 1948, when she appeared in Sartre's "The Respectful Prostitute" and got excellent reviews. A year later, she starred with Ralph Bellamy in "Detective Story." Later, when the acting roles dwindled off, she became a fashion editor and a stylist for a fabric house. For a while, she owned a boutique in Connecticut, along with another soap opera actress, Lori March of "The Secret Storm." These days, in between tapings for "The Doctors," she lives in an early 1800s white clapboard house in Bridgewater, Conn., with her fourth husband, Angus Thurrott, who is in real estate. She enjoys playing the meddling mother-in-law and hopes the show's writers will keep her alive. "But I've already had two heart attacks. A third one might kill me."

Didn't know that Love of Life aired in Australia. Found a listing for August 1971. Love of Life aired at 11am followed by Secret Storm at 11.30 on Channel 10. Meanwhile Channel 9 was airing Where the Heart Is at 11 and Love Is a Many Splendored Thing at 11.30. So if you were home in those days you'd either have to commit to one station's soap or do a lot of channel switching.

It's been mentioned before that Mary Stuart disliked working with Paul Dumont. His only other soap role Paul Martin on AMC was also short lived. Aug 76 Some women just can't hold on to their men. . Much-widowed lovelorn Joanne on "Search for Tomorrow" has been left in the lurch by a potential mate.' Chris Delon decided to reunite with bis terminally-ill -wife, Gwen, and move out of town. Jo was tearful, but stoic in the knowledge that it was all for the best. What a sacrifice. And what a bitter twist to the latest adventure in Jo's 25-year search for happiness, since the bullet that caused her current paralysis was originally meant for Chris. Actors Paul Dumont and Barbara Babcock (Chris and Gwen) are now free to pursue other career avenues. But one might assume that Dumont would be bitter about the rather sudden end to a seven-month romance that promised to be a many-year job. He isn't, though. Not quite. " "I suspected when I was first cast in the part that it was a test of chemistry between actors and characters. The test just didn't work," says gallantly diplomatic but unperturbed Dumont. I'm up for a role on the new nighttime series 'Ball Four. And there is talk that Gwen might kick the bucket in San Francisco and I'll be able to return to poor Joanne, who's confined to her wheelchair." Don't count on it, Paul. Jo seems destined to wheel down the show's 25th anniversary come September, all by her lonesome and loverless self.

Jeanne Bates Virginia Lane title role (San Francisco serial) Woman in My House Caroline Wilson Whispering Streets 1958

Lauren Martin Harkins (Camille ATWT) Vanessa Sunset Beach Julie Port Charles Toni AW Don Jeffcoat (Joey OLTL) Nikolas GH Julie Pinson Billie DOOL When Krista Allen got it) Kim Rhodes (Cindy AW) Carly ATWT Rib Hillis (Jake PC) Lifeguard SB Dominique Jennings (Virginia SB) Vanessa SB

A real opportunity to introduce a powerful new character to stir things up. Not hopeful. Remember Chelsea's husband when she returned? Dropped immediately.

In a SOD interview he mentions Y&R and says he played a band member who Shawn Garret believed had the hots for Lauren, so Shawn rigged the sound board to blow him up. So he may have had 2 roles on Y&R?

One reason for that was the story choices for C&N. They came on in 79 and were married by the end of 80. So within a short amount of time they were already in the 'happily married' phase. Then by killing Sybil off, they were robbed of a long term antagonist. Having Nina go into business and the affair with Steve was a good move, but ended with them being reunited and Nina returning to her passive state. When Taylor left they decided to recast, which didn't work out - twice! And Cliff needed a family from the get go - a parent(s) to provide more conflict. Bergman was originally going to be Jeff Martin, so that would have given him that family. Then it became divorce/remarriage cycle. Throw in amnesia and breakdowns.

There is. Ruth (as Edie) returned in 1963 when Grandpa Hughes celebrated his 70th but that was it for Edie as Ruth was working in Hollywood on Peyton Place in the late 60's and then on AMC so Edie could never return. The early days of ATWT (John Hughes and Edie) was pretty much forgotten by the 60's although I wonder if Irna kept them alive through referencing them. I remember seeing a summary from 1968 in which Nancy mentions her sister Pearl.

Sorry, forgot to date it as 1971 Simon Gilbey and Meredith Halliday Tom Hughes, upon his release from prison, gets a job at Dr. Paul Stewart's clinic. It is there that he meets a patient named Meredith Halliday, who is suffering from an indeterminate illness. Meredith tells tom that she has just been evicted from her apartment and needs a place to stay. Thus Meredith moves in with Tom. Meredith, however, is not as down and out as she lets on, and a tip off comes when Meredith gives Nancy some costume jewelry that turns out to be worth $2000. The truth is that Meredith Halliday is a runaway heiress trying to escape the supervision of her legal guardian, business tycoon Simon Gilbey. Simon, himself, arrives in Oakdale and has Chris Hughes handle his affairs. Simon is very demanding and pushes Chris so hard that he suffers an apparent heart attack. Chris is rushed to the hospital for treatment, and Donald returns from California. Donald disagrees with both Bob and Chris on Chris's treatment; Don wants Chris to undergo an experimental heart procedure, but Chris and Bob are against it. As it turns out, Chris' "heart attack" was caused by an abdominal obstruction. Simon suffers a real heart attack of his own because of his workaholic ways. Bob and David warn Simon to start taking it easy or else he may die an early death. Recently widowed Lisa briefly has an affair with Simon, but she is reluctant to marry him because of animosity between him and her son, Tom. The irony is that Meredith would leave Oakdale with Simon--as lovers!

Some background to explain Paper Doll's ultimate failure. ABC itself was looking at dipping to third place for the first time in years due to the failure to come up with new shows to replace long running shows that were fading - Love Boat, Fantasy Island, Hart to Hart, Three's Company, Happy days etc Their only successes had been Dynasty and Hotel so they went with a lot of soapy drama to fill the gaps. Paper Dolls, Glitter, Finder of Lost Loves,Call to Glory etc Paper Dolls was slotted Tuesday @9. No soap had had success at 9. Bare Essence, Flamingo Road and Knots Landing had all flopped at 9pm. Dallas and Dynasty had garnered big ratings @ 10 before moving to 9pm. In addition NBC was exploding on Tuesday due to A Team and had a hold on viewers. After an acceptable 29 share in its premiere, Paper Dolls had to face the second half of a 2 hr A Team on NBC and part 2 of Mistral's Daughter on CBS a big soapy miniseries on CBS. The result Wk1 #5 A Team 21.7/34 # 12 Mistral's Daughter Part 2 18.7/30 # 44 Paper Dolls 13.8/21 Then the following week Wk 2, ABC had baseball playoffs, so no Paper Dolls. The following week NBC had the world series Wk 3 #3 World Series NBC 27.7/44 # 49 Paper Dolls 12.7/19 #56 CBS Movie 10.9/16 Wk 4 #10 Riptide 20.8/33 #41 Paper Dolls 13.6/21 #54 CBS Movie 12.2/20 Wk 5 #6 Riptide 22.4/34 #41 Paper Dolls 14.5/22 #60 CBS Movie 11.5/19 Wk 6 #5 CBS Movie #20 Riptide 17.7/27 #65 Paper Dolls 10.6/16 Wk 7 Election coverage on all networks Wk 8 ??? Wk 9 #15 Riptide 17.2/27 #57 CBS Movie 12.4/20 # 58 Paper Dolls 12.1/21 WK 10 Paper Dolls moves to 10pm #27 Remington Steele 17.1/29 #57 CBS Movie 11.5/17 #68 Paper Dolls 9.9/17 Wk 11 #27 Remington Steele 17.6/30 #54 Paper Dolls 12.6/22 (Barbara Walters lead in) #57 CBS Movie 12.5/20 Wk 12 #15 Remington Steele 18.6/32 #32 CBS Movie 14.2/23 #62 Paper Dolls 9.9/17 (now with Glitter as lead in) Wk 13 #14 Remington Steele 18.4/37 #56 Paper Dolls 10.1/20 #60 Kennedy Center Honors 7.5/15

Probably one of the first (if not THE first ) location shoots for ATWT. In those days it would have been just visuals (no dialogue) Interesting that two new characters were involved - obviously they wanted to push Simon and Meredith. This was when Irna was absent and perhaps TPTB felt new characters would jazz up the show, 'As The World Turns' In Tenafly By ART MYERS Staff Writer There was Nina Hart, a strikingly pretty 21-year-old girl, lurking in the bushes Tuesday night outside the Clinton Inn Motor Hotel in Tenafly. Out of the Inn came two people, a young tycoon type and his older-woman secretary." Nina peeps, then ducks behind a bush. A limousine glides up. The chauffeur gets out, opens the door, and the tycoon and secretary pop in. They drive away, and Nina follows the car with her eyes, looking kind of bitter. Funny goings on in Tenafly? Not only that, but all this is being recorded by two television cameras, with technicians swarming all over the place, and a big Columbia "Broadcasting System equipment van parked around the side of the Clinton Inn. This was the taping of a sequence from CBS"s daily 1:30 . p.m. serial, "As The World Turns," one of the most popular soap operas on television. Nina, it seems, is on the lam from her guardian, the young tycoon, played by Jerry Lacy, but she wants one more look at him before she leaves town. Well, that's the way it goes in daytime television. Millions of housewives take these little dramas very seriously indeed, and so do the people who make them. Said Mary Harris, producer of the show: "Daytime shows are the most vital part of television. They don't come out of a tin can from Hollywood." Someone made an injudicious remark about the "sappiness" of soap serials, provoking an indignant response from Miss Harris and actor Lacy. "These characters are not sappy," snapped Miss Harris. "They're not conceived sappilv. Thev are thought through in depth." "The characters are very deep and are thought out," said Lacy. "There are many years of history behind them, and the viewers know it." So much for cynics about the caliber of the soaps. They work very hard and conscientiously. "Preparation is all," said Miss Harris, and the scene was one of highly organized chaos. In the equipment van-command post nearby sat a half-dozen technicians watching a dozen screens and fiddling with all sorts of controls. Twice jet planes spoiled takes. "Non acceptable," Miss Harris told the technical crew. Someone suggested that if a jet went over next time, the actors look up and make it part of the show. The show had gone on location in Tenafly from its usual CBS Manhattan studio to gain authenticity. "You can't lick live sound," Miss Harris said, "the quality of the traffic moving in a suburban setting." They got not only an authentic inn, traffic noises, and jets, but a real life limousine driver. He was Bob Hogan of Maywood, who owns the Acme Auto Renting Co. A tall, spare man, he showed up with his limousine and uniform, and professed no stage fright. In fact, he was so relaxed in getting out of his car to let in the tycoon and secretary, that Cort Steen, director of the show, drew a laugh in the equipment van by saying, "Come on, Mr. Hogan, this is only a half-hour show." Two other actors in the serial, Santos Ortega and Henderson Forsythe, live in Tenafly, but they weren't in the sequence. In addition to the jet problem, there was the cigar contretemps. At one point the tycoon takes a cigar out of his coat pocket, and the secretary lights it. In the van they were seen to giggle momentarily, but Miss Harris, worn down by the jets, okayed the shot, saying, "We can live with it." "Sorry about that," Lacy explained later. "The cigar had broken in my pocket, and when I pulled it out it was onlv half a cigar." ""it'll be all right," said Miss Harris, looking wan.

The Doctors Bobbie Wygant Justice of the Peace's wife at the wedding of Althea and John Morrison May 1971 Ms Wygant was a reporter for Dateline, local Texas daytime program. Her appearance was cross promotion.