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Oh my Lord. I'm not gonna read all that. I don't even like her much. What's the Cliff's Notes version?

Totally agree. It makes NO sense that "Lizzie's friend" was invited to go on the trip. Especially when it was set up that Tamra and Heather were the ones that planned it. I have to roll my eyes at Danielle's petty concern over Vicki calling her dumb. No story. NYC: Andy could've let up on Ramona. She wasn't going to elaborate. She gave her canned answer repeatedly and he kept pressing and getting uglier about it. He should've let up earlier. Ramona is wrong about Heather's hubby. He's quite cute. He's just a shorty compared to his wife. Maybe he simply needs to walk into the room before her so she doesn't overshadow him (season 5 reference) LuAnn is really letting her balls swing and I love it! Get yer apple back, girl! Once again, LuAnn was accidentally back in the apple lineup after the preview for next week's eppy. This whole season has been sloppy, with that and then the disappearing/reappearing Aviva.

Arrrrrrrgh! Lizzie would've been flawless if only she had remembered that she DID text back 'n forth with Tamra on her birthday night. She clearly had too much to drink and forgets some things. Including that epic clip they flashed back to of her saying her hubby only gets an erection once a week! WTF? OC has done a lot of those "flashback" sequences of lil snippets that never aired in the first place, but they use to fill in all the pieces of a conversation. I'm on the fence on if I like it. I think when used sparingly, it works. And it saves the trouble of showing a long drawn out pointless scene where there's only one tiny interesting part to it. These "flashbacks" cut to the chase. But other times, like on tonight's episode, they did that so much it was a tad disorienting to me. Like, I wasn't sure if it was new material we hadn't seen or a true flashback. Vicki had me laughing my ass off! She's such a nut. NYC: rewatched the reunion, and they made an editing booboo at the very end. After the previews for next week's eppy when they go back to the lineup of the six ladies holding their apples, they used Season 5's with LuAnn in the lineup instead of Kristen. Whoops!

It's an interesting comparison watching season one with the show nowadays (along with most other Housewives) where in season one it was ALL about their families. You got to know Jill's daughter, Luann's kids and housekeeper Rosie, Ramona's daughter (LOVED her constant embarrassment of her mother) etc. Nowadays you couldn't even identify who's kids are whose.

1st season on NYC is SO different from the rest. The biggest tiff is a friendly competitive tennis match between Ramona and Jill. Oh and that brief thing with Ramona vs Alex/Simon. Is the reunion on hulu? I have yet to see that, back when it wasn't a big event.

I would think they would keep at least one or the other (Vicki more importantly). Those 2 are the main faces (there's a plastic surgery joke begging to be cracked) of the show. To lose both in one year would hurt the OC brand. Plus, the OC doesn't have a football team of supporting players waiting in the wings, like Atlanta or Beverly Hills.

LuAnn vs. Sonja is what could save both from being cut next season. I'm pretty much over Sonja and her delusions. And I just LOVE LuAnn calling her out on her business ventures that never turn into anything. Sonja needs a wake-up call, and I also like how LuAnn called her out on being a fake friend, losing touch during the break between seasons, then suddenly trying to be all chummy once they started filming again. LuAnn legitimately wanted to keep in touch, and Sonja totally brushed her off. LuAnn/Andy vs. Ramona next week looks sooooo good. I loved that shade Ramona gave about LuAnn being jealous because she's not on the show, because LuAnn actually was one of the MVP's this season without a dusty ol' apple. Aviva is the new Alex; everything she says is irrelevant and nobody really cares what she has to say.

Ooh snap, I bet they will. LuAnn has every right to go after Ramona, because she has commented on LuAnn's infidelity as well as being a "weekend mom." All the more reason why LuAnn needs to return and hold an apple next season. No matter what they decide for next year, they should hold on to their two originals.

Wow, it seems like they just started! That's when you know it's a good season. I would think we'd have a couple months left of episodes before the reunion.

Thanks. I'm really hoping there's more to the story here. If she's just marketing herself and using the NYC name for recognition, that's one thing. But if Bravo is filming, whether it be for one of their other shows or some official event, I'm hoping they're gearing up for a return. I'm totally eating my words, but I want that troublemaker back.

OC: I love how Lizzie looks at all this as an observant outsider, but you know she's eventually going to speak her mind and point out what nobody else voices or are too foolish not to see. I look forward to that bombshell. Heather keeps trying to downplay the fact that she was a chatty-Kathy gossip, talking about Shannon's marriage to a bunch of people who are not involved. Not cool. Someone needs to stress that part to her and point out how tactless and wrong that was. But she's good with arguments, while Shannon is not. BH: Wow, I'll be really surprised if Eileen Davidson actually joined as a regular friend or an actual Housewife! I would think she would just pop up once or twice at one of Rinna's parties or whatnot. By the time this airs, Eileen will be back at Y&R full time. This would benefit CBS's Y&R, not NBC's DAYS (which is under the same umbrella as Bravo).

Ooh, Kim's moving to Sundays? Yeah, that'll definitely help her, although it sounds like she was doing okay on her own. I'm just glad it's only a half-hour show. An hour would kill it. Eric, as a fellow ratings junkie, I appreciate your postings It saves me the trouble of going over to TVByTheNumbers.com. A 1.5 for NYC? Sigh, I'll take it, considering they had those lows around 1 million. I haven't been following too closely on other sites, so is it usual for Jill Zarin to still be a representative of the New York Housewives? Or do you guys think something's in the works and Bravo is working on getting some of the original ladies back?

He's still finishing up his run. Nothing is gonna prevent him from putting in his 7 mile run, nothing I tell ya!

What a crazy wackadoodledoo finale! That was the most bizarre party I have ever seen on one of these shows! Firstly, props to LuAnn for pointing out all the so-called pink elephants in the room (which was the majority of Sonja's guests). That was certainly an eclectic group of people who you wouldn't expect to see party together. The Sonja/harry/LuAnn stuff was good but I'm not surprised about the rumors regarding the Sonja/Harry stuff being faked for the cameras. It didn't seem genuine. Despite this crazy ass party, I almost wish they had done their usual fancy editing and made last week's party (Carole's birthday) the finale because they were all at a better place. It just seemed like your usual Housewives wrapup function. Agreed. The reactions to Aviva's leg tossing are what made the scene! LuAnn crying from laughter, Ramona yelling "oh shyt!" and trying to dart from the table, Carole totally done with her loony tunes antics, Heather getting Aviva riled up. I also thought the gaggle of misfits watching the crazy unfold and their laughter made it equally hilarious. It was just a weird over-the-top event that definitely bordered on parody, as someone else mentioned. If Heather, Ramona, and Luann's appearance on WWHL are any indication, the reunion is going to be FUN! I love how Ramona and LuAnn always rip on each other, but at the end of the day they like each other. They're the OG's of NYC and they gotta hold down this fort! P.S. Their lil write-ups at the very end were novels! And they disappeared way too quickly from screen, you had to freeze it just to get a chance to read it all.

Miami is Passions and NYC was in the middle of the pack but now at GL level. Please do not have a girls trip to Peapack next year! I'm surprised the NYC reunion is 3 parts but it sure looks hilarious! LuAnn on the couch where she should be, Ramona pissed about her relationship with Mario, Luann's karma line, Aviva's holla line... This all looks like a wonderful hot mess and I'm guessing they were encouraged to go balls to the wall to have this season go out on top (in the Nielsens).

1.6 ouch! They're now in the same league as OC and BH. I can only say that maybe it's because it's the summer, but really, it's just an excuse. I'm not surprised in the drop but didn't think it'd drop that low that fast.

I'm hoping they'll keep the 5 OC ladies they've got and add one more. I think this crop of ladies is just getting warmed up Yeah, I'm feeling kinda "meh..." about NJ. I'm not interested in the twins or their family (I couldn't tell you which one is divorced and which one is married). Meanwhile, the impending doom for NJ's OG, Teresa, can only be featured so much before it becomes one big endless buzzkill. Oh, and Melissa is still there too. Yay.

Oh yes, it's painfully bad and yet funny. Anything with Wyatt or Jim & David are always the worst. Jim: Really... [pause. Cut to David.] David: Yes. [pause. Cut to Jim] Jim: are you sure? [pause. Cut to David] David: Yes! [pause. Cut to Jim] Jim scoffs. Sadly, I do want to see where it's all headed. But geez Louise, if I could be the editor and chop out the long pauses and establishing shots, and we'd have a bad Bold & Beautiful instead of a bad Young & Restless.

SFK, I've thought the same thing. These deliberate, long drawn out scenes could easily be tightened. The long establishing shots of someone entering a room, or driving away from a building, could easily be trimmed or cut altogether. This could be a half-hour soap and we'd still get everything we need to get out of it. And is it just me, or does this show have this uncanny ability at making real-life buildings look fake?? The outside of the Cryer mansion, Hannah's house, the political campaign headquarters... I swear, you'd think those were all made of styrofoam. It's so strange. They ARE real buildings, right?

He really is. I can't deny when he was having that staring contest conversation with his ma and pa, I was getting lost in his eyes, haha

Don't you mean Hannah's God? It was HER God that brought Benny back to us!

Can't imagine they would. Unless something super epic happens we haven't seen and she's a part of it. Otherwise, they've made her a non factor like BH's Marissa (was that her name?) and NYC's Jennifer Gilbert. Yes, Nene was the surprise guest. And she was in a good mood.

I love the way Bootleg Sally makes her whole snout quiver to convey anger.

That was such a dumb reaction. Carole made a tiny joke, and Kristen is acting like she dropped a major bombshell. I see Kristen and Josh's problems like I see Heather & Terry Dubrow's last year: a storyline for camera time. I don't buy it. I seriously want to punch people like Kristen who complain because her husband is busy at work. Bitch, that's how you can live the life you live!! She's not a smart self-made millionaire (Ramona), nor did she marry into old money (LuAnn, Sonja). Kristen's hubby is up & coming, working hard to make a living and grow a business. Not to sound sexist, but it's wives like this that make me wanna say, "Just shut up and raise your damn kids." Thank God she's a one-season wonder. I loved LuAnn breaking down and showing true vulnerability. Why she's not holding an apple is beyond me, other than for Bravo to save coins by downgrading her. It was nice that they recapped her relationship with Jacques. Ramona crying over Avery leaving, aw... It's like watching a robot short-circuiting. Overall, last night's episode was one of the best of the whole season. I really liked the ladies' interaction at Carole's birthday party. The ending with LuAnn leaving with Harry was TOTAL Bravo editing magic and I loved every manufactured moment of it.

Rewatch the first episode of Season 3 (her premiere). She was so far up Kim G's butt she could tell us which flavored Ensure shake Kim G had for lunch. Her and Wench had such thirsty looks on their face at the Posche fashion show.