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Can't wait for NY! I know we've already discussed the "housewife" criteria, but it is ironic how the only two ladies who were actually married (Heather, Kristen) are out, and the rest are single/dating. Crazy how it's the norm right now to have 3 Housewives shows running concurrently. Season 6 was very sloppy with their opening. Taking Aviva in and out all the time, then during the reunion episodes, their commercial bumpers had LuAnn back and Kristen gone (Season 5's line-up).

I get capitalizing on the show during its highpoint, but I never saw Adam and Kirby as star-crossed lovers, considering he raped her and she generally reviled him.

Thanks for the reminder! This show goes through highs and lows, but I'm actually glad they have the capability to do so, since so many reality/competition shows get progressively more stale and uninteresting. I absolutely loved season 6 with Bianco Del Rio and the rest of the cast had a great chemistry together. Courtney Act makes an amazing woman and I want him to pop up on Bold & Beautiful as a friend of Maya's I wasn't thrilled with last season's winner but the talent pool that season was kinda shallow to begin with. I was actually pulling for Ginger Minj but figured they wouldn't let yet another quirky one win.

Yup. Still waiting to hear what they propose they will do instead.

Kasich is my governor. Do not be fooled. The difference is that Kasich doesn't say horrible things. Instead he just quietly does them. Unfortunately I've all but given up on the media ever taking a hard look at this zealot and seeing the damage he's done to Ohio. He and his cronies decided to rig the data on failing charter schools in order to keep the cash grab going. Ohio's school rankings have plummeted under him. http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/09/03/ohio-department-education-records-release.html He's an utter zealot when it comes to reproductive rights. http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/wolf-sheeps-clothing-gov-kasichs-reproductive-rights-record He's jumped on the defund Planned Parenthood bandwagon. He's also cut funding for domestic violence programs and for programs to reduce infant mortality even though Ohio has one of the worst infant mortality rates in the country. (45 out of 50) He signed a bill that cut funding for rape crisis centers if they even mention abortion. He's stacked the state medical board with his right to life cronies even though many of them have no medical experience. Also under his administration, Ohio remains at the bottom of job creation rates. http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/01/dismal_numbers_on_ohio_job_gro.html Thanks for the insight. Clearly I haven't done my full research on him, but with the poll numbers, it seems it's only a matter of time before he bows out anyhow. Lord Jesus, which devil is less evil? Which one will win?

I wasn't a fan of Kirby either. Having finally seen The Reunion miniseries this past weekend, I'm surprised they chose her as (Faux)Adam's endgame. All in all, it's funny how all the Carrington children were recast at some point, even Adam with the reunion. I wonder if at the time they were making plans for the reunion, they might've entertained the idea of bringing back Catherine Oxenberg as Amanda? It was wonderful seeing the original Steven all those years later. Steven's return in the form of Al Corley makes me wonder what the total list would be for soaps that have brought back an original actor after the character's transformation into a recast was explained by plastic surgery? I can think of ATWT's Lily, OLTL's Max, DAYS' Phillip....

Wasn't it New Hampshire that he came in second? JK like MR are too bland for my taste to be president. Cruz just looks crooked period!…LOL You quoted me before I edited. I get those two confused on a map too (tee-hee!) Clearly I'm not an east coaster

I'm HRC all the way, but I think John Kasich is the most sane of the Republicans. I thought he might catch fire after New Hampshire. I'm amazed this SNL-skit-come-to-life with Trump is still going strong.

Caught up on Beverly Hills. Vanderpump had me giggling while preparing for her dinner. I wish I could remember what line she said that had me LOLing, but her wit and humor is still right on point. I thought I'd be rolling my eyes at Eileen bringing up the apology thing yet again, but it actually came up in conversation organically. I get Kathryn saying "Get Over It!" in her talking head, but I can't fault Eileen for calling out Lisa for her tendency to brush things under the rug when someone is simply asking for a straight-forward answer/apology. We know Lisa, we love Lisa, we know how she operates. I don't think Lisa is "wrong" about anything, there's just a difference in how people lay things to rest and move on. While it's all said and done for Lisa, the other ladies need official acknowledgement and direct confirmation. The "coming up" preview looks good! I was surprised we got one so late in the season, but perhaps Bravo could sense the viewers are O.D.ing on the whole Yolanda Illness thing and wanted to give us assurance that better things were still yet to come. Producers clearly could tell some changes were needed as they were filming. Here come the sloppy drunks! Yolanda, I can't even bother with that one anymore. Her actions will have far reaching consequences beyond the world of reality TV. It looks like they filmed footage after news broke of her separation with David? Whatever ho. No sympathy here. Edit: Looks like it'll be covered on the finale: http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/yolanda-foster-david-foster-divorce-real-housewives-beverly-hills-finale/ They included a huge misprint though by saying "fans love Yolanda."

Dominique's story is so islanded and very half-assed. I'm a little fuzzy on what I watched this past summer, but there was virtually no reason for her to keep her baby daddy in the dark about her daughter's paternity. And speaking of the daughter, isn't she supposed to be around 18? She looked 13.

Awesome! I absolutely love UnReal! Looking forward to seeing her on it.

1. Exactly. Sam was the worst character ever created. Even Kyle's brother in Season 7 is more interesting. If she was supposed to be the replacement for Jo, they misfired horribly. 2. I think others mentioned there were some back 'n forth contract negotiations with Marcia Cross? I always thought it was ironic how by the time she became an "official" castmember in season 4, she had already outrun her usefulness. 3. Yeah, I couldn't believe how Allison was able to hit the bottle and Jake barely flinched. I liked how Allison eventually went back to D&D, for all of two seconds. 4. Yup. haha 5. It was. Once again, Matt in his own storyline island, with no cute boyfriend (although his boyfriends were always mental hotheads) or the adorable Mara Wilson to make him interesting. Small sendoff for poor Jane. Gone are the days of someone getting a promotion or whatnot, and everyone from the apartment complex coming over for an impromptu party, complete with balloons and cake. Season One was adorable... I like how Soap Opera Digest once described David Charvet's MP run.... "from the moment David Charvet joined Melrose Place, he looked like he didn't want to be there." So true.

Totally agree. She needed a little break for a reset. Now, she comes back in and it's surprisingly like a breath of fresh, familiar air (wait, that sounds like a flatulence reference. I digress...). Glad to see the frog admit she went too far, and she's right that there's a difference between light joking and just being cruel. Still, she's a frog. The Sheree/Bob dynamic is interesting. I can't decipher which one is more desperate to quit their day job at Target. Still, again, the break was necessary and I'm glad she's back. She's still a poser and faker than a $2, but that's why we love She By Sheree. Kim definitely kept her cool when the gay accusations were hurled her way, but you could tell she was pissed. Wasn't she threatening to quit the show around this time? Kandi and her cantankerous aunts... Meh, cute, but just something to film on camera for the sake of the show. Kenya, well, alls I gotta say is: her man is fine.

I loved Lydia. I felt she was true to herself and called people out in an honest, no-nonsense manner. I was actually bummed when she didn't return the folloawing season but I guess she realized the toxicity was taking over this show. I agree with NBA -- having Lydia back is to support the Vicki Redemption story. Since the other three (Heather, Tamra, Shannon) don't want to be part of that choir, they are bringing in the Lizzies, Lydias and possibly Gretchens and Jeanas so that Vicki does not seem completely ostracized and out of the loop. Count me in as one who'd love to see Lydia back. She provides a great supporting role and doesn't instigate or create faux drama, but just tells it like it is. This crew of ladies needs one of those, and I could see Lizzie and her teaming up. I'm all for this line-up.

No, Rinna originally said someone else was discussing it and she engaged in the conversation and she felt guilty for engaging it in, and then said the word "engaged" about a half-dozen more times.

I can't help but still like Erika. Yes, she kept silent last week when it was obvious everyone was just waiting for her to speak and 'fess up. But I kinda get her reasoning for not wanting to get into it at that moment. She has sense that the others (coaxed by producers, no doubt) lack. Such as last night when the ladies, again, talked about Kim, and Erika wanted to shut it down nicely by pointing out that it's Kyle's sister. The discussion about Kim was getting shallow, but I liked how Kathryn brought it back down to earth by opening up about her father's suicide. Which brings me to another point... I swear, it's like there's a cue card boy off to the side telling the ladies which topics they need to discuss. Last night, the soap stars, Lips and Eileen, were up to the challenge. It's old, it's tired. It's making Lips look like a fool who can't let Dutch drama queens sleeping dogs lie. It looks like next week, we're back to making Vanderpump the villain who likes to throw the brick and hide the hand. Meanwhile, I like how Beverly Hills is the only franchise that constantly brings back all of their original cast. Adrienne popped in again last night. Camille is always at parties. Boozehound Taylor wobbled around a few episodes back, and sloppy Kim will be rambling again at some point in the future. Yolanda can go. Bye.

More like a nightmare. Only if Kim Kardashian is Sanders' Vice President. Or would *that* finally be going too far for all the dumbasses well-informed voters of America? Regardless of his political position, with Christie, even with all the hoopla and buzz around him a few years back, my concern would be a man of his size is one more Big Mac away from a heart attack.

Thomas Calabro looked good on the 2009 reboot. I always wondered why he opted not to do the reunion interview & covershoot for Entertainment Weekly back in 2012.

Another well-informed voter...

I totally understand that, but they managed to keep a lot of 90210's around for years. I think they should have worked harder to keep Jake and Alison or at least let Alison and Billy go together. Jo, Jake, Alison, Jane, Kimberly, I missing anyone? Matt? That's a lot of people to loose and it seemed like they had no real game plan going into six and I realize Heather Locklear's pregnancy messed things up, but they should have tried harder to get some of the originals besides Jane back in the end. I mean it's like two different shows after season 4 and especially after season 5. I believe Doug Savant wanted to stay but they wouldnt give him a romance. They had made Katie Wright who played his neice a regular but Savant didnt just wanna play Dad & left three shows into season 6. Then they killed him off in S7. Im not even sure if they even tried to get him back or it was story dictated Actually, Doug Savant (and Katie Wright) originally signed to do 13 episodes of season six - however, Heather Locklear's pregnancy meant they had to start filming early and Doug was doing Godzilla at the time, so he was abruptly written out in the season premiere and took Katie Wright with him. I believe if Doug had stayed for those 13 episodes, then maybe they would've given Katie Wright a full season contract. I think her character was supposed to be 17, so there was time to turn her 18 and make her live in the building - sort of makes sense as Jennifer was portrayed as being maybe 21-22 at the oldest, so I guess a "young-adult" scene might've been on their minds briefly. For the best, then. Don't know why they thought Katie Wright was special. She was on the short-lived Malibu Shores (with unknowns who eventually became known, like Keri Russell, Susan Ward, Charisma Carpenter, etc.), just as dopey and uninteresting as she was on MP.

Everyone looks good, but Christ, there's waaaaaaaaaaay too much Kimmy Gibbler overkill, and she comes off way too annoying. Not even goofy funny, just string-bean-Barney-Fife moron. I'll have to take another look at the twin boys; I forgot they brought back the originals for them.

DEFINITELY. His endgame being Michael's sister? Meh.... They definitely should've followed up on that , when Amanda revealed that Allison had contacted her in Atlanta, and had fallen off the wagon again.

I like your assessments @carolineg Agreed on Billy, Jo, Brooke, Matt, Michael, etc..... and count me in as another big Alison Parker fan! She had some low points there (hooking up with Steve McMillan; her being a tyrant season 3 at D&D), but she definitely was the heart of the show, as was well established in season one. I would say for the most part, Jane was only interesting when fighting with Sydney. Even her romantic partnerings occur mostly offscreen, whereas you would actually SEE what was happening in Alison or Amanda's relationships. However, she is a great ensemble character and is a breath of fresh air in Season Seven after the clusterfunk of Season Six. I also agree that in re-watching the series, Peter Burns has a lot of blah moments. He's a huge buzzkill for a lot of season 5 when he's all pissy-pants about not being able to practice. He takes it out on Amanda and later becomes some crazed zombie, treating Taylor like some sort of sex robot reincarnation of his dead wife, Beth. Jake and Allison are great characters separately, but together in their Shooters cocoon, totally petered out into oblivion. The couplings you would expect to be endgame, based off their Seasons 1-3 heyday, don't work out due to actors leaving at different times. By all means, Billy & Allison and Jake & Jo should've gone off into their respective sunsets together. And indeed, Kimberly, fantastic character as she was, outlived her usefulness post-explosion. Her becoming a psychiatrist was ridiculous enough, but then the split personality storyline was the point of no return, and her long, drawn out "dying" storyline in Season Five was horrible. It gave us Megan at least, but the storyline itself was terrible. Always a joy rehashing the goings on at 4616 Melrose!

That totally saved her. I loved when she turned into a boozehound, drowning her sorrows at New Years (I think a drunken Nicole picked a fight with Celeste that year!) and all around the old Kiriakis mansion. And they missed an opportunity, pairing her with Austin Peck's Austin around the 2000-2002 era.