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@Cat That LuAnn/Bethenny gif kills me! God bless her and her mannish ways.

Finally caught up on NYC. Yes, Jules is just as bright as Kristen. And she's throwing digs about the other ladies' age in her talking heads. Why do they bring on women 25 years younger than their leads? The ageist remarks aren't needed. Carole, LuAnn & Sonja were barely on. Yes, Carole is itching for some sort of relevancy on camera this season. I also don't get this need for other women to constantly comment on how "gorgeous" Carole is. If they say it enough times, the audience will believe it? Ramona's initial drive-by apology to Dorinda was hilarious, but her genuine, heartfelt apology at dinner in the Hamptons made up for it. We finally have a new, non-scripted friendship between two housewives that originated years before the show began. We had/have that with Ramona and Sonja as well, but I wonder if Ramona has moved on from Sonja at this point, and they're just made-for-TV buddies now. Dorinda/John is a sad, toxic relationship. It's like she's addicted to a drug and knows it's bad but needs it to get by. I would hope that by seeing herself reflected on television, it'll help her see the light but we'll see. Are they still reportedly together? Bethenny and her "TV news woman hair" still gives us great zingers.

YoLemony always trying to be the voice of reason/voice of authority/get the final word in is obnoxious as f*ck.

I *so* wish Faye would agree to be on the show full-time. Or at least as a regular "friend of," similar to how she was in season three. It would be interesting with Kyle as her BFF and Kathryn's back history. That said, Kyle, Faye *did* sign up for this. She agreed to be filmed on camera and has even filmed talking head comments on and off in the past six years. She signed up. She's just not holding any diamonds and sashaying her way in a long gown in the opening theme. The reunion so far was decent, nothing too major. Lots of light, cutesy stuff with Erika Jayne/Girardi and another fluff pieces. I honestly don't remember them ever mentioning that she has a grown son. If they did mention it when they were greeted by the police chief at the restaurant, it totally didn't sink in with me. Rinna's "I brought receipts!" moment fell flat. A for effort, D- for execution. We'll see the followup next week. Eileen barely spoke two words, but brought her soap opera hair!

Dallas looks even worse than Potomac, but their preview for the whole season actually looked promising. I'm on the fence if I want to waste my time; hubby seems to want to watch it and Housewives is always one of "our shows" (except Miami... he watched; I didn't)

Potomac is the epitome of posers fighting about nothing. But, its ratings were decent since it followed Atlanta so I guess it's here to stay although it's about as relevant as Miami was to the overall franchise. Lord, Lord, Lord... CChhaarriissee is the biggest poser of them all. I cannot with her. I think I'll take smug, eye-bugging Katie over her. Last week, she corrected Ashley's "moot point" phrase and said it was "mute." No, just no. I love hearing these Housewives (OC is usually the funniest) use a common phrase incorrectly (i.e. Ramona's "mountain over a hole-mill") but it's even better when one corrects the other INCORRECTLY and acts all high & mighty about it! And now this week, she gives us the incorrect definition of the word "narcissistic" and maintains that she is STILL correct in her definition even after Robyn looks it up on her phone and gives the correct info. But the "best" part was at the very end of the night when they're getting their champagne glasses ready to toast, and Cchhaarriissee is all, "Ooh wait I have some news.... my husband and I have not spoken to each other since this show started airing" Translation: "Yo Andy, you're bringing me back next season, right???" Overall, despite Karen thinking of herself as "the star" of Potomac, there's not a single breakout character on this series. With Potomac and Dallas, it seems the "D-List" celeb status of women of Housewives series will be taken down to an F or P.

Beverly Hills was such a fail this season because both "big" storylines were centered around things that should've never been brought up on camera if they were genuinely such a big deal. The whole Munchausen thing started because Rinna felt compelled to admit, on camera, that she engaged in an off-camera conversation with someone who is not a castmember and she felt sh*tty about it. Firstly, her acting when she said that was off. I've seen her pull off more convincing performances as MP's Taylor and DAYS' Billie. It was obvious she was bringing it up on camera for a reason/storyline purposes. It reminded me of when they try to organically introduce a new castmember (i.e. OC's Tamra and her poor acting, inviting her new client, Heather Dubrow, into the group). Then, there was the "B" story of Eileen offended by Vanderpump's questioning. Been over this one already. Again, keep it off-camera or don't make a big deal of it if you don't want discussion of The Affair blown up. It's crappy because we all come from a soap opera fan base, so we *want* to root for Eileen and Rinna, but they were handed bad storylines. "I won't stick to your script," is Eileen's tagline. Clearly, she did. And it was a poorly written one. Meanwhile, each and every season, Kyle Richards comes off smelling like a rose. Even when she poorly acted bringing up Mohamed's children at the dinner table (again, a Tamra bad-acting moment, for reference). And she got a free pass talking ish about Camille in season one. Who's the true numero uno at manipulating the audience....?

:) Looking forward to it. They really know how to alienate their star player. LVP is so over this show and putting up with the B.S. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice.... Beverly Hills' finale episode felt weird and disjointed with their timeline. Granted, they wanted to capitalize on the breakup of YoLemony & My Love, but they clearly scrambled to grab a couple ladies to film a couple scenes in December, months after they already wrapped (meanwhile, I wish we could've seen LVP's home decorated for Christmas!). Their season finale party at Kyle's Palm Springs home fell flat. Rinna looked dumb backtracking with Yolanda and wimping out with Kim. The two tiny bright spots was Faye's appearance and LVP's little apology to her, as well as the final shot with Kyle and former "enemy" Camille dancing by the pool. That's what made this franchise fun, was the original cast's genuine friendships they built. Back to the disjointed timeline, they ended the episode with YoLemony & My Love at their former home (RIP Yolanda's Fridge!), two months prior, still "happy." Okay.

We checked out the first 10 minutes last night; will probably watch the rest of the episode, but by golly, the redhead on valium is ridiculous! It was both hilarious and cringe-worthy. First of all, her voice.... her friend's, too. And then that one line, "She farts on command and I dance in it." These two winos are so ridiculous I don't know if I hate it or love it because it's so stupid. Which was my overall feeling for Potomac, too. Haven't seen the rest of the ladies other than the two who don't know the difference between pushing or pulling a door. The previews definitely looks better than Potomac, and hope it's not just a bunch of etiquette lessons or who's more Texan versus the other the way Potomac turned out to be. The Potomac reunion showed what a bunch of posers each and every one of them are. Karen and her lousy charities, Katie's non-charities, Robyn the dragqueen getting all hot 'n bothered for no reason, Gizelle basically just a hater of younger, pretty girls, Charriissee sitting there like a couch stain.... I think after all is said and done, the only decent one who isn't trying to be something she's not is Spring-chicken Ashley. Her exchange in the park with Katie about Robyn's finances was petty, but producer-driven so whatevs.

His BFF Andy Cohen also loves to express his love of Nick. I don't know if I'm betraying "my own kind," but I get skeeved out when celebs in their upper 40's talk about their hard-ons for other celebs in their early 20's.

She should've asked Cynthia Watros -- THE WINNER -- to borrow her princess dress...

Agreed with all. It's near impossible to support Eileen in this mess, though this'll never affect her soap career, so she's solid there. LemonLyme dethroning LVP as Top Diva status would be like Beth Chamberlin trying to take Kim Zimmer's GL crown; Rebecca Budig reaching for Susan Lucci's; Arianne Zuker clawing for Deidre Hall's. It ain't happenin'.

Did the NY opening disappear from this page?

Well, I guess there's only so many they can think of, unless the women started getting brutally honest.... "I'm a grifter looking to ride on my rich friends' coattails..." "I'm secretly broke but pretending I'm part of the one-percenters..." "I'm guilty of white collar crimes, but I hope the feds don't watch reality TV!" etc.

Yasss! Love that my Big Apple ladies are returning! Loving the new taglines, but hate they didn't update *everyone* in the opening. P.S. I like the diamonds line for Dorinda, but nobody beats Camille's... (PPS.... I can't stand trying to quote the right person at the right moment on this message board, so pardon the repetitiveness, this message board is acting jenky for me) NeNe's break was definitely needed, for herself, for the group of ladies, and for us viewers. I like the newfound understanding between her and Sheree. They're the OG's and they've got a respect and understanding the others don't share as the originals who made the series the success it is. I hope both are back full-time next season. Loved that Porsha knows she can't mess around with NeNe, Kandi, or Sheree and expect to get away with it. So NeNe all but confirmed what we all suspected in season two.... she did in fact put her hands on Kim Z's neck and try to choke her... off-camera. The advice she was giving Porsha is no doubt the advice she was given by her people, probably around the time after the infamous bus incident of season 3. Those were the days.

Well said.

Eileen's goofball antics about The Affair brings to light something nobody cared about otherwise. I'd sooner like to know the behind-the-scenes gossip of how Guiding Light's Frank Grillo and Wendy Moniz got together while one (Grillo) if not both were married at the time, and rumor has it they were boinking like bunny rabbits in the dressing rooms. But I digress... @Cat, that was my problem too, watching Tuesday's show. It's almost hard to understand what exactly "the soap actresses" are so upset about, especially since Kyle is completely unfazed by what transpired. I get it while watching it, but it's kinda hard to summarize what the actual argument was about. So basically, the soap actresses are mad that Kyle didn't call LVP to task for allegedly trying to pin Kyle's name with Rinna's with the whole Munchausen's speculations. Rinna thought LVP was doing something mischievous, while LVP says that wasn't her intention at all and Rinna misunderstood LVP's questioning about Kyle. Blah blah blah, when it all comes down to it, I'm sure the only thing LVP actually cares about from this whole ordeal is potentially damaging her longtime friendship with Mohammed. I did like that one soundbyte from Rinna saying that basically LVP and Yolanda don't like each other. That's very apparent, and I wonder if it stems solely from the Season Four crap, or from years earlier, pre-Housewives.

Congrats, Vix!!!!!! Hope you have fun and take plenty of pictures. Thanks boo I'll try to take pics!! Sounds fun! Where is she appearing/what is she doing?

I like how the women grouped themselves on the bus... Season 1 vets Lisa V & Kyle, Season 5 soap queens Rinna & Eileen, and Season 6 newbies Kathryn & Erika. It's kind of symbolic of how this trip is going down. The vets stand together, the second-year soap queens are doing all the instigating and whining, and the newbies are watching all the cray cray unfold in bewilderment. In all honesty, all the cattiness and nit-picking from Eileen and Rinna is borderline hard to follow. I'll give them props for trying their darndest, but Kyle ain't poking the big bear known as LVP. All in all, this was some ugly Season 4 crap, and I hope this will wrap up soon. I hate when I no longer enjoy Beverly Hills because it's probably my favorite alongside the original NYC years, but this season has taken a real nosedive. Not sure how our soapy favorites will fare next season. You've pissed off the Queen Bee...

Thanks for posting those Kandi quotes. It boggles my mind that the other three (and Sheree too, I see you trying to backtrack, boo) would defend that man. Okay, so considering that Potomac has a shorter season than others, we stuck with it just to see how it'll end. But I tell ya, hubby and I spent the episode ranking who we hate the most and why. Cchhaarriissee wins as both our No. 1 least-liked. Hubby chose Gizelle second, but I had to go with crusty ol' beaver Karen, who thinks she's such hot ish. Katie is next, because I just cannot STAND the way she talks. Is she on valium? The Spring Chicken (Ashley? I always forget her name) is harmless, but her Daddy Warbucks husband is goofy. Robyn is probably the least worst, but I don't get the dynamic of her non-marriage. It's interesting and non-traditional, that's for sure. I wonder how long they'll stretch out their reunion. I hope it's not 3 parts.

A big THANK YOU to Kandi for saying what I was thinking while watching, that the dude who was threatening to touch Kenya was creepy, threatening, and just wrong to come so aggressively towards a woman, and had it been anyone except Kenya who told him to leave, all the women would've been up in arms. Loved how she called the 3 out on the other couch when they had no witty retort. It's ironic how they'll only retract and admit there was something off with the guy once Kandi says something, but they're defending the dude when it's only Kenya saying something. And Porsha, Kim or whoever mentioning how Kenya was the one who invited the guy into the house... something about their wording made it sound like someone who's defending a rapist. "Oh, but she invited him in to her place, she was asking for it...." No, no, no.

Hearing everybody's take on BH is so interesting. However, I feel that, in spite of the drama, this season has been underwhelming and none of the drama feels organic. EVERYTHING feels very producer-driven. I know this is par for the course with HW shows, but with BH in particular, it feels like everybody has nothing really left to say to each other and so the producers are running around trying to one or another HW up in arms about something. It is very transparent this year. And you can read it on the blogs, especially if LVP calling up the other ladies ahead of filming is true. It feels like "Yawn, ok, let's do something to get this show percolating." The fact is, I couldn't give a sh*t if LVP asked pointed questions about Eileen's marriage -- because it feels like it was only done in order to create some kind of SL. Similarly, Eileen going after LVP for it -- storyline-dictated. Lipsa going after Yol about not coming to Erika's party -- let's create drama where there was absolutely none. The only time people look somewhat shocked (Kyle!) is when Yolanda goes hard and whips out her bag of crazy and throws medical documents at people. I can't take the fake outrage seriously because everybody is doing their bit to "bring the drama." Eileen, Lipsa, LVP, Yol, Brandi... They've run out of ideas and Yolanda's illness has given her a pass, so she cannot be the HW they attack this season. So we are back to the old LVP Master Manipulator story. If people are reacting in defense of LVP it may be more that they are tired of seeing this recycled drama all over again. All of this. This season has felt very producer-driven, and that's why I'm not too mad at Lipsa or Eileen. They look like buffoons, but it looks like desperation on the show's part to have some sort of storyline, no matter how goofy you look. I'm glad someone else mentioned Kathryn's hubby, cuz he's muy guapo! Something about Kathryn reminds me of actress Julianne Phillips (a.k.a. "Frankie" from SISTERS), only with botched up lips. And a penis.

Dang, that's a rough photo they used for Kimberly Bryant. I'm not familiar with her from OC, but that's a hideous photo. I would love for Jill Zarin to come back. She's a horrible person but I love to watch her. Just one more go against Ramona, Bethenny, etc.

Think they're finally ready for Miss Rowell on the ATL...?