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Most of those fans were all about her and Sonny. Frankly I don't think Nina has ever been better or more interesting than the last few months. It wasn't about daily humiliation unlike the last few years, but growth.

I think they talked about it quite a bit early in PM's tenure in some refreshing mature scenes. But it still didn't make me want Chase around lol. They really are like young Mormons.

I think the most we got structurally (vs. individual scenes, etc.) of any PM vision was the Drew/Nina affair and wheeling/dealing in business, the town's change re: Sonny, the Valentin reveal re: Pikeman, the accountability towards Jason from his children/exes and Alexis returning to the law and soon meeting And possibly the poison hip saga, which I had more time for than some. I may be conveniently crediting him only with the things onscreen I liked. Who knows? But I did like them and I did like many standout scenes or quieter ones. There have been rumors claiming he was immediately relegated to doing dialogue and breakdowns vs. plot, and I'm not sure I buy that. I do think he was clearly also disempowered, if it's true he wanted to cut the cast and was stymied.

Didn't Laura run for mayor twice because FV tried to can Genie?

The show has treated Kristina as basically gay for a number of years. As for Ava and Valentin, they've always been bad news and I had no problem with the show treating them that way.

LOL why didn't they raise an objection at the holidays? Grinning his way through his coming out scene with Liz?

Very few anymore, except Willow and her kids (and Maxie's son with Nathan West, her deceased brother) IIRC. Obrecht, her aunt, is currently MIA. And yes, the character was created for Stafford and remains because FV doesn't want to let it go or change anything, it seems. I was extremely into Drew/Nina recently and everything going on there. It was an unexpected bright light in the morass of the show for me with two previously hopeless characters. With PM gone (because I highly suspect it was his work) I have no interest. Both Drew and Nina can go, as I previously have been wishing for for years. Along with maybe a dozen others.

Interesting to hear they allegedly scrapped an Aiden/Laura coming out scene for 'more Jason' as part of the BTS conflict. I actually do think they need more of Jason's story because it's the only main primary mover on the show for months, but that's a shame. There's tons of other crap to cut instead of that key SL. But I would happily kill Jason again.

It's possible but I haven't seen a breakup yet. And I think they went there once before and then backed off bc of the sponsor?/AA thing.

Are they? I haven't seen any evidence of that. And I think the only reason his job is safe is because PM's is done. The way they frame that I think it has to be someone as big as Becky. GH Twitter hypes up CW (and even Maura) as much bigger to the show than they are. But it is definitely possible re: Maura. Not that I have not been an advocate for Ava going out in a blaze of glory with the right storyline. I just don't expect the new-new team's to be it lol.

I am not going to give you what you want here, so I think it's best we both move it along. I can stick to commenting on the thread at large and you can continue moderating with speed and equanimity. I am not throwing down any scoop to be clear, lol. It just seems obvious to me. Liz is barely on, Korte has no use for her vs. Carly, the show has tried multiple times to fire Becky over almost 20 years and the only person in the creative mix at present who had any use for the character or actress (back in '99, when he first wrote on Liason among other prior stories) just either quit or got fired.

Y'all. It is Elizabeth.

I don't need a map to guess who that is.

Oh man. All my love to Kim and hers.

Pass.

Same.

Oh, I would love to see Frank and Guza battle it out. Guza's cachet with GH is a lot more recent than Mulcahey's, though PM is no wallflower.

I ain't paying real attention to this show again til FV goes, which is unlikely to ever happen. Not on network, anyway.

Considering FV allegedly hated Dena I'd burst out laughing if she got drafted at this point. It would be so Kafkaesque and typical of the industry at this point.

I don't much either, but it is clear that was one of few material things PM got to add to the show and I want to see it, lol.

Apparently that was one of many things not by his choice, which does not surprise me. I think there were some great scenes, glimmers of potential good new stories and couples but it's clear he was hamstrung from the jump. In any event, I'm probably out after Lane Davies airs.

The one silver lining with the mess at GH is I can get back to my clear true calling: 35+ year old episodes of Knots Landing.

As long as FV is there it's now clear nothing's gonna change. Until that happens I'm not gonna get excited if they dredge up another Great Name of Daytime History.

As I've said here and in the Mulcahey news thread, I think that's at least partly a result of just the classic FV guarantee/taping games. But if he stalled it out til he could get his way that wouldn't shock me either. I do not think Valentin/JPS being in a position to be written out as the villain behind Pikeman is in his interests at all; he's hung the moon around Stuart's primetime outs. Valentin looking to be a lock to get iced recently would seem to be contrary to Frank's preferences.

I'm staying til Lane Davies' first day or so and then I'm out. Ending an episode on a song from Violet typifies the creative clusterfuck here. Uncle Frank's Kids! As has been enumerated in the thread about this news, I doubt having no story was the issue. I think it was sabotage from the jump, pure and simple.