Everything posted by DramatistDreamer
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"Beyond Salem" and the new generation of streaming soaps
The question was more in line with whether this is the start of something or a one and done type of maneuver. IMO, it's too early to tell. It took about eight years for any of Netflix's seeded plans in television to come.m to pass, although it wasn't for lack of trying. I'm genuinely wondering whether daytime has any resemblance to primetime, or whether it is just too different to look at what happens in primetime as any sort of indicator. Since I first posted this, I thought of one really strong difference, which is the under-investment in non-service programming. If streaming is going to invest in anything daytime, it will probably be in game shows or service shows, not soaps. There are no Netflix or Apple TV+ waiting to produce any soap that resembles a traditional daytime soap. Hulu had a foray into this and we saw where that went. Initially, I was interested in hearing thoughts on this but I have thought better of my question. Daytime doesn't have the overall interest in investing for streaming and I don't see this changing for the foreseeable future. Daytime soaps don't seem to have much of a future worth investing in, tbh. Not the current model.
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The Politics Thread
WTF??! I saw this on the morning news and it looked like something out of 12 Years A Slave! 😡
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
My wish list would have been to have someone like a Roger Newcomb produce a livestream podcast discussion, more similar to what Michael Fairman does, but with more room for spontaneity and candor, and have someone like Scott DeFreitas and Melanie Smith play moderator different episodes. Or even Hillary Bailey Smith. They could alternate moderating duty. Roger has produced indie award shows, so he can certainly string some decent clips together, while an alumni leads discussion. The Locker Room at its best has had some decent episodes but could be a lot better. The few times clips have been shown, they have been pretty poor quality, even when there have been clearer copies posted on YouTube. Puzzling. EDT. Auto-correct wants it to be "Locker", instead of "Locher". Oh well.
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The Politics Thread
It's not a surprise but it needs to stop. It's been decades. I don't think most people are aware that this has been happening.
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Coronavirus/Covid-19 Discussion Thread
With J&J, which Rock jokingly referred to as the "food stamps" of vaccines. Since we know that breakthrough infections do exist, he should definitely take more caution with whom he spends his time with.
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"Beyond Salem" and the new generation of streaming soaps
Question: So when "Beyond Salem" inevitably gets a nomination for a Daytime Emmy (as every show connected to the network does), in whic category will it place? As it's a Peacock/NBC connected show with links to the ancillary broadcast television network, I assume they won't be shunned like the TOLN/PP soaps or placed into web soap ghettos, so will they be allowed to compete with the Y&R and GHs? Will Days end up competing against itself? Can a Days Of Our Lives that competes against itself still stand? Although I didn't watch the Primetime Emmy awards, I am reading that the streaming shows ruled the night and grabbed the most prestigious awards. Even though I know Daytime desperately wants to defend its "turf" on the TV dial, so did Primetime once upon a time. And since the standard and the bar are set much lower, it would only take two or three other shows to follow in the path of "Beyond Salem" to streaming to tip the balance. Thoughts? Is the Peacock based soap going to be a 'one and done'? Or will there be a micro version of what happened in the Primetime Emmys? Just wondering.
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Coronavirus/Covid-19 Discussion Thread
Rock needs to stop hanging out with all those unvaccinated fools like Dave Chappelle and Kanye. Strength and healing to Chris though.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Honestly, I would say the last time we ATWT got something truly worthwhile and great was the SoapClassics DVDs and streaming. So, course PGP/P&G/TeleNext or (whatever they choose to refer to themselves as today) had to put the kibosh on it. So great to see folks still supporting that toxicity with apparent zeal.🙄
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The Politics Thread
This shouldn't be allowed to happen. Why not select a pool of candidates from elsewhere, apart from the huge accounting and law firms?
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The Politics Thread
As quiet as it's kept, there are doctors who are defying the Texas abortion law and they are not at all keeping it a secret.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
I doubt any of us think he could be anything close to a journalist. It would just be good if the actors and writers could talk freely, uninterrupted before he switches topics. I wouldn't have even minded if occasionally he were to interject, to challenge something that was said, if there were a contradiction, but then, like others said, that would require that he do more than cursory research, be able to dig deeper. In any case, like I said, if there were a full year if clear quality, complete episodes from the mid 80s, I would be watching that channel, and wouldn't care what he does.
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Y&R September 2021 Discussion Thread
Boy, that never stopped me when I used to watch this show, 😂. You could be onto something though. Whenever I used to critique the show, someone would inevitably try to police my comments and be all over my a$s about how negative I was supposedly behaving. I do think the end result is that it stifles expression, ultimately causing people to think twice about posting their honest reactions because you just don't want the hassle from those one or two replies.
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Y&R September 2021 Discussion Thread
What I have noticed on this board, in particular, is that resignations, firings and some type of casting or production shakeup seems to get more discussion than actual storylines. For me personally, I used to drop in more often for discussion about general and random topics, the kind that I didn't need to watch the actual show in order to discuss but, now I find myself venturing more into the classic threads. There's nothing of interest pertaining to this show, not even for random chitchat now.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
He'd promptly ignore it as I'm sure he couldn't care less 😂, but thanks for the compliment. To be honest, I'm not as interested in his YouTube channel as I would be in an archive of ATWT and GL episodes, similar to what has been done with the B&B and Y&R vault that was created. I'm pretty sure that vault is what led to the eventual upload of episodes of B&B "From The Beginning" on their YouTube channel.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Scrubbing comments that are not offensive, merely asking probing questions, seems an awful like censorship, but hey, maybe he's content with getting an annual click rate of less than the average cat video. It's his channel and it is his right to assert his own rules. I only wish that he wouldn't designate himself as some sort of classic soaps ambassador because at this point, his fawning coverage to the former higher ups, while practically cutting off the actors and some of the writers when they offer less than rose-colored statements, is exacerbating the worst impulses of the soap media. Being uncritical of a genre that we all love, yet acknowledge has always had problems, even in its heydays does a disservice to us all.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Someone should ask him what he thinks of a show like Downton Abbey, which would seem to be the antithesis of what he views as a successful continuing drama. Good for you! Someone needs to at least try to ask the uncomfortable, but probing questions. If I were on FB, I would've tried it too, lol.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
It makes me wonder whether we'll ever get to see a streamed discussion with Eileen Fulton now. Part of me thinks she may not want to do one after he's been an invites guest. The other part of me hopes that Eileen gets fired up and wants to be a guest on one, if only to "set the record straight".
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
They did seem to go after the TOLN/PP soaps in a very aggressively negative manner, as if the turf they were protecting were their very own, all because their preferred HWs didnt get to write the online versions of AMC and OLTL. Well, since I want CG to get as few clicks as possible, I won't even be doing that.
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
The best statement people can make to voice their displeasure is either to pepper the chat with pointed questions on his disrespect of the show's history and the veteran talent or to just not tune in at all and let the view count shrivel. It's a waste of my time personally, so I don't plan to watch. Anywho, Thanks for the clips @DRW50. This is a period during which I became an inconsistent viewer because school and extra-curriculars got so very busy. Only in the last several years have I been seeing episodes that filled in the storyline blanks with more specifics. Seeing entire episodes of B&B posted online has made me slightly envious, wishing that I could see entire episodes of ATWT in clear audio and visual quality. Even with the mediocre acting that plagued so much of B&B, being able to see a whole entire episode in clear audio and visual quality makes it that more enjoyable. If only we could get more of that for ATWT. Not only a single episode (of which ATWT has more than quite a few), but the fact that I know the next episode will be uploaded, no missing episodes or storylines abruptly ended due to missing scenes and episodes.
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The Politics Thread
Because people treated Microsoft like a traditional corporation, while Zuckerman and others of his ilk have convinced those in power that Facebook is somehow above and beyond the reach of a traditional corporate entity, which we all know isn't true. When I used to get those opinion questionnaires and panels, I got asked whether tech companies should be broken up, I would always answer "yes" and I always made sure to give a very thorough, specific reply on why I believed the likes of Amazon, Facebook, Verizon, etc. should be broken up and not allowed to have all these mergers, acquisitions and various holdings and how I believed they misused all that power to bar competition and stifle innovation and a fair marketplace. Europe has been leading the way in the antitrust fight, as they,'ve had Google in litigation for the better part of a decade now.
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Coronavirus/Covid-19 Discussion Thread
I'm surprised that we haven't really heard or seen anything in relation to the nursing homes. This case was surrounding an outbreak that occurred in March of last year, which was regarded as fairly early in the pandemic, in the U.S. at least, but perhaps not in Europe. It will be interesting to read about whether the fact that it occurred relatively early in the pandemic will be a determining factor in how far the case goes, as well as any remuneration.