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It works, I've seen the actress in other things

In regards to the change of acting of the females/males.. we can blame Auntie Jack for that since Peter Bergman was a New York actor coming to an LA based soap where acting wasn't top notch (except for Lauren/Traci.. no one else really won emmys). Original Alex I despised Maura West being cast in such an iconic part.

I don't know.. I could have bought it if she had hired a gunman to do the job for her... but we have to remember that Iris was her own worst enemy. Many a marriage of hers was ruined because of her inability to move on from Mac so I could see Rachel marrying Carl as a betrayal against Mac's memory and she snapped.

I always figured Holden/Meg were the youngest since the two were closest.. and that Holden was Emma's favorite because he was her youngest son... and that Caleb/Ellie were the middle children and the ones least accustomed to farm living. I know that Iva took off when either Meg was very young, or before Meg was born.. because when Meg came on in January 1986.. Iva was happy to see Meg while Meg remarked that she didn't know her but had heard a lot about her.

I do agree the show is missing something, perhaps an emotional depth that we havent seen on the show since the 1967 to 1969 episodes. With that said, I find that the script qriters have been good..some better than others (one of the script writers lee zlotoff created Macgyver in the 80s).. when I watch an episode and like how the episode is written/structured..I find that the script writer for the day is always Lainie Bertram (who was a script writer for oltl in the 80s). Script writers can make a show better...but Cenedella used script qriters during his 6 month stint and I found his 6 month stint almost a chore to watch.

Jill as a friend of would be perfect. Jill in small doses is good PR for her. Her brief visit gave the show some attention especially shedding light on on and off again friendship with Ramona.

I read she came on in early july followed by her siblings a month or so later. And I agree Ann isnt crazy, she was sick and tired of being a doormat and decided to fight for something because being noble wasnt working for her.

I know Ken Corday was starting an online web presence.. and I think the Ladies of the Lake was the first content from that... so I'm wondering if he's getting all the kinks worked out so that if NBC does decide to drop Days.. it can go on airing online on his platform? I also think Walmart is smart to appeal to Middle America since Netflix has totally shifted from a more diverse content that populated their channel in the early years (though I'm tempted to add Netflix again if the Dolly Parton deal does happen). I have antenna only, but I don't get CBS.. but that is just as well since I don't like anything that airs on that channel anyway (their daytime schedule is the pits and all of their comedies/dramas are skewed for old people.. and are procedurals.. boring lol)

I truly think she was always crazy under the surface.. it's just that the Pollocks really didn't think to showcase this till near the end of their tenure. So far, I like the current head-writer with the introduction of the heir apparent to Dr. John Morrison in the form of Dr. Paul Summers. He is fascinating especially when he is seen talking to his cat. He has an ax to grind against Matt Powers due to circumstances surrounding the death of his late wife (suicide), and the cat/mouse games with Ann.. and his seemingly toxic new interaction with resident nut Stacy (who reminds him of his late wife). Plus, the way he is charming Mona to be on the hospital board to 'help' Matt. It will be fascinating to see how Douglas Marland finishes this story when he takes over. I also like all the anvils in regards to Joan Dancy's coma story.. with a right to die/life argument being started.. and hints of Jerry Dancy wishing Joan would just die. I know what ends up happening, but it's fascinating seeing all the hints/anvils of this story. In regards to Jada Rowlands... I don't know... I've heard its by the end of 1976, others say in 1977... but we shall soon see.

I know her last interesting concept was the It's a Man's World cd where she put a feminine POV to male written/sung songs (walking in memphis was epic). With that said, I like her take on Fernando.. it fits her voice well.. but I don't think all of Abba's songs will fit her voice.

I love this scene when Alexandra/Reva were frenemies... and there was a conversation about class, generational changes, etc. It really hits home Beverlee's point that Alexandra lost a lot of depth in the last year or so of playing the character. I think part of that had to do with Jill Phelps as EP.. but I truly think it also had to do with the creator of the character (Pam Long) no longer being there. Reva/Alexandra were written best when she was there...imho. I do wonder how Long would have help write Alexandra after she found out about Mindy/Roger? I know Curlee takes credit for the Mindy/Roger affair.. but I have to wonder if Long would have influenced how the character was written post the affair.

Faye Resnik is low rent and the fact the show considered adding her made me think that the BH franchise was on descent into boredom. Thank gosh she was afraid of fan backlash, because there is nothing about her life I'd want to know. I know everyone makes mistakes, but her actions during the Nicole Brown Simpson case just made me think she was gutter trash and no amount of glitz and glamour can ever truly clean the stench coming from her. I'd like an outsider (and I'm talking an outsider of California) to come and join the show in order to shake it up. Teddi was a decent addition (though I think she would have been better served on the OC..imho), but we need someone dynamic that can shake up the cast and that isn't trashy (season 1 Camille was such a high level of success.. that understandably is difficult to meet or surpass.).

That would have been better if Gus was Alan and Rita's son...or at the very least Rita's son...cause that would have solved what happened to Rita (she vanished and was never was found). I didnt get the point of Buzz and Lillian being together other than both characters were single and the writers didnt know what to do with them so put them together. By the time they were paired...Beth and Harley no longer despised each other..Harley was gone and Beth was involved in Alan's orbit. I did like that Hawk/Lillian would still flirt with Hawk saying if Buzz didnt treat her right, that he would be available all she had to do was let him know. I recall Hawk/Lillian was a nice little coupling in the darker 1986/7 period during Pam Long's absence as head writer..but I noticed once she returned in fall of 1987, she introduced Sarah..and within a few months broke up Hawk/Lillian to reunite him with Sarah. Pam long and Wheeler...hmmmm...I never thought about that..but I could have seen it working...except both of them on their own would go overboard with their passion/ideas...and both needed a counterbalance to reign them in. (Long had calhoun and Curlee in the late 80s....and I think Lorie Hurst helped bring Wheelers ideas to life in a soap manner..making it more realistic, etc).

@Cat I kind of feel bad for the new housewife Gina on the OC....her husband so Kelsey'd her. I like that she is unfiltered and caused Vicki to be speechless for once. Also, two stroller moms being added has made a few of my female friends that are moms watch..... and I think Shannon is the consistent MVP...she's quirky, reacts dramatically, and has the home life as well. I cant wait to meet Tamras son Spencer since hes now 18 and will be appearing rumor has it. I noticed once she got married, became a grandma, opened the studio, etc...Tamra became a somewhat less pot stirring because she had other stuff to offer. I'm wondering if Beverly Hills could hire someone from New York...because while the OC doesnt care about their image...BH cares too much about their image...I'd love a straight shooter to come on...not crass/drunk like Brandi..but someone that doesnt care about their image. That franchise needs a shake up.

He seems sweet and earnest...but acting was not his calling.

I'm liking RHOC so far... it's in the process of a rebuild. It's a different breed of a housewife show than NY (thank god) and Potolomac. Its a family show where family is equally in focus with the non family stuff... and I'm sorry.. I'm liking Kelly sticking it to Vicki. Vicki needs to go, she covered up Brooks cancer.. and that actually bothers me quite a bit.

I think there was another actor that played Chris.. by the name of Alan White, I believe.

I do recall hearing that the Iris of the 70s had no interest in business, other than being a woman who lunched. So it was interesting to see the Iris of the late 80s and 90s that was knee deep in corporate intrigue.. did anyone ever note this change in Iris?

Rhoc... I like that vicki soesnt have power behind the scenes..so the other women can call her out on her stuff. I hope Gina continues operating without a filter. I think beverly hills needs a new Yorker in the cast..but not bethenny

Marj's best role was as Myrna Clegg on Capital.. she took over the role and made it her own. She wasn't Alexandra, though I do think when she first started as Alexandra, she did try to emulate Beverlee a bit without much success. With that said, she had better chemistry with Fletcher than Beverlee did.

I'm in a good mood so I'll try to say some positive stuff about the Peapack era of the show. The production values sucked and it did distract a lot from the writing/stories.. but there were some positive stuff that I liked from that era.. Olivia/Natalia.. it was a slow build to them becoming a couple since the two had started off as not being friends whatsoever, and than becoming friends, than becoming roommates, becoming close friends and both not realizing that they were falling for one another.. at the same time that Natalia was involved with Frank.. and Olivia assuming Natalia wasn't in love with her let her be with Frank while Natalia was struggling with being gay, in love with Olivia yet not wanting to hurt Frank. Philip's return from the dead was handled fairly well.. with him reconnecting with Dinah (the writers remembering they were cousins), and Lizzie giving him a tongue lashing.. with the two having a very tension filled relationship (she had his stubborn and controlling streak.. she wasn't anything like her mom... in fact, when M Rylan played Lizzie.. she reminded me more of a young Mindy than a young Beth). I did like that the show remembered Frank/Blake had a prior connection/friendship that fell by the wayside in the mid 90s.. and the two ending up together kind of made sense. Dare I say it.. but I liked Reva with Jeffery.. and I liked that there was a scene of closure between Reva/Josh where they admitted they would always love each other, but couldn't go back. Hence why the show had to 'kill' off Jeffery to reunite Josh/Reva (and had to flash forward one year into the future as well). Whew.. that was hard work LOL

This is why I never was a big fan of Josh/Reva as a couple. In the backstory of Josh/Reva... they were child hood friends and sweethearts.. but she was the daughter of the cook (Sarah Shayne worked for the Lewis family).. so she never felt she was good enough for Josh.. and Josh never let her forget it. Reva's actions always were impulsive especially in reaction to what Josh's actions toward her and in general. When he left town for college without a thought to Reva (at least in her mind).. she quickly married his older brother Billy. Zimmer said in that emmy legends interview that she was given a couple of different scenes to act out in her audition... one where she was the fun loving party girl, one where she was brash and sassy against those that spoke ill of her, and finally a scene with Josh where she crumbled and was vunerable. It seemed to me that Josh tolerated stuff from Tangie/Harley/Annie/Olivia/Sonni because he didn't grow up with them.. nor were they daughters of the family cook/maid. To me, his actions toward Reva were a throwback to the class differences between the two. I actually will say that I liked Reva better during the two years where Josh wasn't in the picture where she was involved with Kyle, her suicide attempt, her trying to rebuild her life, becoming a photographer for the Springfield Mirror, and realizing that Kyle wasn't the man for her because of how cold blooded he was to Maeve in regards to their son Ben. I'll even go as far as to say I liked Josh with Harley... even though she was the kids nanny.. she also wasn't one to stand for anyone talking down to her (her verbal smackdowns to Vanessa/Sarah post Reva driving off the bridge were great).

I felt Eden's first several months had her being a daredevil, fiesty, stubborn, and defiant against authority.... and I always figured she left for Europe years before because she always felt like the odd child of the family. Within a year, they made her and Kelly almost interchangable with the victimization/kidnapping/emotional issues, etc.

I recall my mom texting me about asking about the shaky camera work, and the weird green color. I think the end of feb/early march was the official start of the Peapack suicide mission... but there were a few episodes before the official start where some scenes were filmed in the new style mixed with scenes filmed in the traditional style. It was like two halves of different items being fused together and that didn't fit at all. I will give credit to Long trying to figure out where the scabs were going with some of the stories. I do think she had Josh/Reva watching little Ben while Fletcher was grieving (even was a note of sorts from India who was Maeve's good friend). Plus, there was even a custody battle talk between Fletcher and Maeve's mom as well during Maeve's funeral. I think it was a surprise that she was killed off so suddenly.. it wasn't expected at all.

If she did, her talk show wouldn't have been cancelled after a season thus crawling back to RHONY with her tail between her legs. But let's all of us talk about alcoholic Dorinda for a moment. She needs rehab just as much, or more so, than Luann. The way she acted with Luann.. and than failing to admit she was wrong on WWHL... I think she needs to exit stage left after this season... or tell her it's rehab or kiss your apple good bye.