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In housewife land, I understand doritos logic since the format is now about drama and fighting...but there has to be some common sense and logic. It took Kyle and LVP 2 seasons before they got back on track. But neither changed hence why they aren't speaking again. Erika has the best talking heads..she said LVP doesnt care about them so why care about her. Erika is a colder less humorous version of LVP...so it makes sense she can read LVP better than most.

When eden was presumed dead..didn't CC want to groom Kelly to work at Capwell? Didnt she mention something about art..or design? And oddly, EileenDavidson's take on Kelly reminded me more of Eden. I would have just had her be an Eden recast... couldn't have been worse..imho

Karen....I don't get ttlhe love for. Great outfits..but grande dame? Cocky much? I will admit it still seems fresh and not contrived unlike some of the other shows. Rhony...thank gosh for Barbara adding a new element..or I wouldn't even bother watching. I like shows that change cast mates...and I wish the shows would do it more often.

People dressed better in the late 80s than they do now. It was back when everyone had money, or could afford to appear as though they did.

Madonna came up with ray of light and music after major changes in her life (motherhood, moving to the UK)....so when she moved to Lisbon..I had a feeling she would be inspired. It sounds modern, yet also unique and a classit's own its own. And she actually did a music video with a story!

Brain fart...my bad! You are absolutely correct

Dorinda needs rehab...she's mean, bitter and uglier on the inside than Bethenny...and that's saying something.

If they truly wanted to freeze her out...stop talking about her and create some drama...thank gosh for Camille.

I was always hoping that dru be brought back when he was with Karen (Nia long)...it would have had 3 gifted actors playing a triangle where no one was the bad guy...plus Victoria rowell expressed thinking Nia Long was a talented actor..so it could have been a good story.

I think Mary dying when the C from the sign fell on her was the best twist..and oddly made sense. I'll even say I liked that a middle class family The Walkers were introduced...and even liked all of them...but fo agree BJ and Warren were a bad fit...Warren/Angela were a good couple.

So that's who Gretchen was... that was Katherine Kelly Lang first soap role I believe. She was a friend of Patty at the start of the whole Patty/Danny/Jack story...hmmm. I guess Nikki/Victor didn't end up meeting till October 1981 I assume?

Andy Cohen needs to be removed..he no longer knows what works and doesnt wo4k anymore.

I still prefer Brenda as Ashley...she was softer, prettier...yet she wasnt a pushover. She always stood up to Victor and didnt hesitate to leave him. When she played Ashley..I saw Brad as her end game....when Eileen plays Ashley..I saw her end game being Victor.

I liked carrie genzel in the part...and thought she played the tortured daddies girl better than Robin Christopher...imho.

The kyle and Portia seen with the Vanderhaul and not being able to properly grocery shop, Rinna with her mother/daughters, Erika acting like Erika launching her tool, Denise working out with hubby, and LVP with the kitchen renovation makes me wish the show would devote just one episode to not having the women together in a contrived gathering.. nor talk about LVP/dog gate/etc... and just be with their own families. To give viewers a break from the pointless petty drama. With that said, I loved how Rinna said she hasn't thought of Kim... yeah.. keep telling yourself that dear. Both Rinna and Kyle have used Kim for storyline for years... and when Kim left... they both latched onto LVP.

I have to say I preferred Brenda in the role of Ashley over Eileen... and I wished the powers that be had lured Brenda back to play the part of Ashley.. since some fans remember her fondly (in fact, I shared a few youtube clips of Brenda as Ashley with viewers who didn't know of her.. and they actually said they would have liked her better if they saw her in the role originally)... and I bet Brenda wouldn't be as expensive as Eileen is. And I think the reason I liked Nixon was because she provided a good balance between character interaction and story bubbles... and the show used the restaurants and parties/balls to great effect to mix up the character interactions. Bell would have a ball.. and the characters still were situated in their own story bubble (which makes sense because people usually will stay interacting with people they know well.. and maybe do a polite greeting to those they might not know as well)... and I'm sorry.. I didn't like ATWT because everyone was in one another's business even when it didn't make sense.

I liked that style of storytelling...some characters organically wouldn't know one another. Victor encouraged Nina to pursue Ryan so he and Victoria didnt interact...I recall that. Nikki and Nina had one scene in the late 90s after Victoria's baby Eve died where Nina expressed sympathy..and Nikki eyed nina leaving and asked Victoria if Nina was causing trouble..and Victoria said not at all. And I do recall before Nina left in early 2000...her and Sharon interacted a lot since their kids went to Walnut Grove..and Nina was a supportive big sister to both Mackenzie and Megan Dennison. Had nina stayed, she probably would have interacted with others. She also was tested with Ashley's step brother Rafael and advised Cole on how to handle the Victoria/Ashley situation. Agnes Nixon did that to a certain extent on AMC...but not as blatant as Bill Bell did. Marland overdid the character interactions..some of which didnt make sense...and I did notice got better with that in the later years of his tenure in ATWT.

Making alexis comic relief was ill advised considering that NS could play cold and throw shade with the best of them. And I wish the show could have recalled that NS in essence played a Fallon Carrington esque character on KL with great success. Of course, our show runners probably only recall shows made after 2000.

Boring...enough with fighting and doing take downs...all it shows is that these women have no lives and are bored so they manufacture drama. Money not only doesnt buy you class, it also doesnt buy you a life.

Bethenny is ignorant...especially when asked about what she would do if she were on RHOA. She would so be threatened by Kandi

And Aaron spelling didnt realize that daytime is different than primetime...sometimes it takes time for a show to gel..and soap fans dont like revamps every few months either. I dont recall Adrienne frantz on the show..was her character as bad as people thought..it didnt seem like her character fit. I know her character was involved with the Meg/Ben story before the mark/sean triangle...but i think Gabi was a better fit with Mark and was a better written character....and Annie served as a better spoiler for Ben/meg (and I didnt like how she got spun off from that story into the Richards orbit).

And we wont see the Donna nude photo story along with her plot to get even with Bill Spencer either

Because Porsha has things going on in her life...that's why she's more likable...she has more to offer other than generate conflict. rinna on bh should offer more..but she wont sadly.

I liked that Emily was Bette's daughter.. it gave Bette more dimension as more than just Olivia's sidekick or Annie's quirky aunt. I don't recall if Annie or Emily interacted all that much... I could see Annie being annoyed at Emily for being a goody goody.. yet being the protective cousin when Amy/Brad were mean to Emily.. and I could see Emily being resentful that the love she wanted from her mother was given to Annie and wondering if her mother had wished that Annie were her daughter instead of her. Lastly, I kind of liked the Annie/Maria friendship.. both actresses played off each other well.. and it was the one time that Maria was likable and had some personality. It was nice to see Maria being a conscience for Annie... and it was nice seeing Annie encouraging her friend to be more pro-active. I still recall one scene where Annie/Maria were hanging out.. and Tess was there for a minute.. where she and Annie eyed one another (like one schemer recognizing a fellow schemer).. and after Tess leaving.. Annie asking Maria what her deal was.. and that she got a bad vibe about Tess.. with Maria laughing it off. The show had potential.. but just didn't know how to balance the traditional soapy qualities with the audience of the late 90s that were into faster pace/edgier fare.

I thought the show was teasing an Emily/leo/sean story...but than the show opted to keep that dippy Amy on...and decided to drop Leo..and keep Amy and her male sidekick. Also, the show was kinda isolated with little to no interaction