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Making alexis comic relief was ill advised considering that NS could play cold and throw shade with the best of them. And I wish the show could have recalled that NS in essence played a Fallon Carrington esque character on KL with great success. Of course, our show runners probably only recall shows made after 2000.

Boring...enough with fighting and doing take downs...all it shows is that these women have no lives and are bored so they manufacture drama. Money not only doesnt buy you class, it also doesnt buy you a life.

Bethenny is ignorant...especially when asked about what she would do if she were on RHOA. She would so be threatened by Kandi

And Aaron spelling didnt realize that daytime is different than primetime...sometimes it takes time for a show to gel..and soap fans dont like revamps every few months either. I dont recall Adrienne frantz on the show..was her character as bad as people thought..it didnt seem like her character fit. I know her character was involved with the Meg/Ben story before the mark/sean triangle...but i think Gabi was a better fit with Mark and was a better written character....and Annie served as a better spoiler for Ben/meg (and I didnt like how she got spun off from that story into the Richards orbit).

And we wont see the Donna nude photo story along with her plot to get even with Bill Spencer either

Because Porsha has things going on in her life...that's why she's more likable...she has more to offer other than generate conflict. rinna on bh should offer more..but she wont sadly.

I liked that Emily was Bette's daughter.. it gave Bette more dimension as more than just Olivia's sidekick or Annie's quirky aunt. I don't recall if Annie or Emily interacted all that much... I could see Annie being annoyed at Emily for being a goody goody.. yet being the protective cousin when Amy/Brad were mean to Emily.. and I could see Emily being resentful that the love she wanted from her mother was given to Annie and wondering if her mother had wished that Annie were her daughter instead of her. Lastly, I kind of liked the Annie/Maria friendship.. both actresses played off each other well.. and it was the one time that Maria was likable and had some personality. It was nice to see Maria being a conscience for Annie... and it was nice seeing Annie encouraging her friend to be more pro-active. I still recall one scene where Annie/Maria were hanging out.. and Tess was there for a minute.. where she and Annie eyed one another (like one schemer recognizing a fellow schemer).. and after Tess leaving.. Annie asking Maria what her deal was.. and that she got a bad vibe about Tess.. with Maria laughing it off. The show had potential.. but just didn't know how to balance the traditional soapy qualities with the audience of the late 90s that were into faster pace/edgier fare.

I thought the show was teasing an Emily/leo/sean story...but than the show opted to keep that dippy Amy on...and decided to drop Leo..and keep Amy and her male sidekick. Also, the show was kinda isolated with little to no interaction

I saw kathy glass in one episode as MJ...she didnt have the warmth and quirkiness..imho. she wasnt bad though

Episode 278 released today..some good scenes with the Logans. And this was during the writer strike..and the writing is loads better than what's offered nowadays.

Judi Evan's had the edge and spunk of Nancy...plus her and Jenson had good frenemy chemistry.

I'm of the belief that LVP doesn't even bat an eye to this challenge.... nothing would bother Kyle and the rest of the women than LVP not even mentioning it... or commenting about it. Having LVP nuke them at the reunion, on social media, etc... is exactly what the women are wanting. Best way to deal with a bully is to not give them any attention, mention, etc.

Taylor Armstrong vs tamra...now that would be something to see. I could see Taylor and Shannon being friendly...both out of domestic situations, etc...common bond and all.

It made sense that Mary Williams didn't interact with Katherine because they weren't in the same circles. It was more organic that the two might pass one another at a social function and say hi to one another without having a deep conversation. I liked the Carl storyline for a lot of reasons... it explained what happened to Carl, it showed Mary being depressed and finally moving on with her life only to have long thought dead husband Carl come back into the picture... it showed that Carl/Ruth had a good life.. and that Mary had to accept that she found him only to realize that she truly had lost her husband.... and it was the one time Nina was correct that Chris not telling Paul/Mary about her quest would backfire on her... and Paul was upset with her for awhile... and Chris had to admit to Nina that she was wrong and that Nina was right (this is when I knew daddy was no longer writing the show).

To be honest... I think had the time slot not been switched.. the show would have still be cancelled.. but in the mid 90s. Besides.. the show was in dire straits by the time the time slot switch happened anyway.

Seeing Mary WIlliams getting drunk and calling Isabella a *itch... memorable scene for me

I don't miss her... the show has been fine the last two seasons.. without her and her hot mess sister in law Jacqueline. I've found when you bring back former housewives.. shows can stagnate (i.e. Nene on Atlanta, Bethenny on NY, etc).

Sara 1 seems chippy and upbeat..girl next door..a good contrast to Nola/Joan Sara 2 seems jaded, introspective..serious.

What makes the Patty/Emily story make even less sense was that Patty/Jack divorced.. had closure.. and she was put into the Danny/Paul/Lauren/Traci orbit for the last six months or so of Andrea Evans stint... and the character wasn't hung up on Jack.

I think I read that she opted not to resign (Lillibet) and Bill Bell was disappointed because he had lots of story he wanted to do with Patty. I think Andrea did as well as one could do being thrown into the climax of a 2 year story (1981 was when Patty started crushing on Jack).. so I think she was a good sport. Oddly.. she had a lot more to play in her almost 18 month stint as Patty vs most of her stint as Tina..imho (The jack/Patty divorce closure talk was well-written and well acted.. but had Lillibet stayed, it would have had even more impact..imho). I do wonder if Bill Bell would have written Patty as being responsible (by accident) of Traci miscarrying if Lillibet had remained in the role.

Patty accidentally caused Traci's miscarriage after a jealous fueled argument..and seeing that Danny blamed her..she decided to leave town and start a new. She was not in perfect mental health when she left. She also was the one against Paul/Lauren being a couple..more so than mary was...I think after Patty left in late 1984...Bell made Mary into the busybody we all loved and remembered lol

Gina climbing over the prison visitor wall to strangle and punch Clint when she went to visit him in prison earned her a memorable place in Y & R history.. I think I recall Gina crediting Leanna Love's 'I hate men' chant she started for the inspiration to give it but good to Clint.

Oh... I love Joyce... she was too normal and sweet for Housewife life... so I'm glad to see she and LVP are still friends... and a party wouldn't be a party without Camille Kyle... whose never been relevant dating all the way back to her child acting days when her sister Kim was more famous and more talented.... and now in reality land... Kyle is over-shadowed by LVP.. whose a natural on reality tv.. and Kyle.. just isn't

What's odd is that Donna's character went to college to become a journalist and did the modeling in order to pay for college... and even finished school.. and her last episodes in early 1991 were involved getting an offer to work at Spencer Publishing.. but opting not to take the job. So it's jarring that Donna is basically a receptionist at times, when the character in the early years had more of an organic connection to the fashion/publishing/modeling angle of the show than Brooke/Katie.

If the story is true that Jonathan Frakes character was going to come out of the closet.. it makes sense that the character was recast. The original actor (who played Bradley Raines years later) was tested with Sara Dancy and was just there.. and than one day is recast with cute as a button Jonathan Frakes (who looks good clean shaven and with a beard). However, I do think the character would have been boxed in even more if he had come out as gay.. especially in the 1970s. Although the alternative they've come up with isn't better. I swear.. MJ on this show.. Katie Parker on GL.. were the two nurse characters in the 70s/early 80s that were beautiful and fun... yet had the worst luck with men. It boggles my mind. I haven't been able to watch the show lately since I moved away from an area where Retro was available... has Sara been recast yet.. and if so.. how does she differ from the first Sara.