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Wow... I guess people sampled it.. didn't like it and didn't return for week 2.

Rinna is acting.. she views RHOBH as another acting role. I forgot what season it was.. but she had guest roles on the Middle, a return stint to Days, etc... going while the season was filming... and that was the season she wasn't leading the charge to bully someone. I think if these women have actual stuff going on in their day to day life, they are less likely to create drama in group settings because they have something they're bringing to the table. RHOC last season.. Shannon and Kelly were the only two that contributed anything to the narrative in both their day to day lives.. and in group settings (and I look forward to seeing them spar next season.. since both have positive changes in their personal lives... and with Tamra/Vicki gone.. maybe the two might mend fences?). And I agree it's time for Melissa to be demoted to a friend of.... she doesn't really add anything to the show. Delores' day to day is more interesting to me with her close friendship with her ex (and I get why she'll never take him back.. and she should hold firm to that), her relationship with her kids, etc.

I do like the fact that even though both Rachel and Iris had issues with one another.. they didn't let that affect their sons being best friends... even in the late 80s/early 90s... Iris was always warm and nice to Jamie.. while Rachel was the same way with Dennis. Oddly, I think the one thing that Swajeski did right about Rachel/Iris was make the two become strong frienimies after Mac's death... they learned to get along, even like one another at times, but there would always have instances where the two would still clash (i.e. Paulina's paternity, Spencer, Carl, etc).

I wonder if it ever enters Jennifer 's mind that her daughter gets excluded in school by girls that ae like Jennifer? Probably not...she shouldn't be rewarded for her behavior..but I guess if Teresa gets rewarded than why not Jennifer

I did see Deakins in a movie called The Great Outdoors as a jaded townie teen ...so I agree with your assessment.

Morgan vs Taylor could have lasted years...having her lose the baby killed story...course Brad Bell has never been talented as a writer.

I always wonder had Deakins stayed in the role when marland took over.. what he would have done with the character of Lily... because Deakins' Lily wasn't quite the spoiled brat that Bryne's Lily was.

Michelle Stafford was a cast member in the last few weeks of it.

They did dip into soaps with a brief soap called Tribes..but lack of network clearance killed it.

That November 1984 episode was pretty strong.. and I think it really showcased a community feel. While it isn't Marland esque, I think it holds up pretty well. I'm also guessing Lindsay Frost was fairly new as Betsy.. with the haircut to mimic Meg Ryan's.. plus her being more perky (which you could tell wasn't a fit cause Frost played Betsy more serious and intense than Meg Ryan ever did).

So should there be a slight shake up in the cast for next season on Jersey? I think adding a newbie with no ties would be interesting..an outsider view.

I'm wondering if the Dobson's auditioned/applied to be head-writers for both OLTL and Somerset.. and these outlines/projections were their audition for the job?

Weren't iris and Rachel friendly pre Mac? I know their sons were friends..and Rachel was always nice to Dennis and Iris was was always nice to Jamie.

I'm happy Leeanne is leaving...now that the common enemy is gone..the fur will fly. Leanne wasn't enjoyable to watch. Imho

I don't think the show did a good job recasting Thorne... it was quite jarring going from someone both tormented and possessive.. to someone so wimpy. Though I sensed chemistry between Thorne #1 and Macy in their first meet up, it seemed he was looking at her in the same way he first looked at Caroline in their first meeting. Not only did Thorne seem to change with the recast from episode 618 to 619/620... but I noticed Macy changed from being resentful of her mother to being her cheerleader. I admit I liked the edgier Macy, and am dreading the continual softening of the character as she and Thorne start their courtship/relationship (including the whole singing angle).

I liked Rusty and Roxy.

Pretty Ashley is in these... how I wish she would be Ashley again (would be less expensive).

I think having Jackie as a mother was an interesting plot point in the original series that didn't get explored enough though I thought Jackie/Fred breaking up was realistic since the two only got together because of the baby. However, I could see Jackie being an over protective mom because season 2 in the original show had Jackie being a good cook, being attentive, and in her element as a mom type of character. And I think keeping Andy's existence in this show and not being around could explain why Jackie always hangs out at the Conners... because he choose to be with his father Fred vs her.

Till the mid 80s, Ada had her own stories and marriages..once she moved in with the Cory's..she became more supporting..but she co owned Mary's and than Paradise Cafe..plus had a brief fling with her old high school flame..who called her 'bubbles'. Rachel lost her sarcastic edge and drive once JFP took over. Oddly, she was the bright spot in the Jordan Stark story. She was again Rachel..with drive, saracism, and also lost the weird accent she adopted.

My theory was always to show Frannie still had lousy taste in men...and I think the original reason she was probably killed was for the money (if rumors of the original killer being her husband were true).

Today's episode 616...Thorne and Macy meet. I sensed chemistry and I wonder what might have been if the original Thorne had stayed on. Would they have lasted..or would it have even started with them?

I love that new blood comes in

So I'm watching the 1989 episodes, and I have to admit being confused with the Bill/Margo marriage. It seems like Bell reworked the story to insert Bill into the story since it doesn't make sense. I think Storm/margo were supposed to have that marriage... with Storm into her with margo will in love with Clarke. And I have a feeling Mick was supposed to be more sleazy hence the early episodes with Kristen seemingly not into men and being frigid.

If they're spending so much time in post..maybe it should be a sign to Andy and co that Vanderpump wasnt the problem... why is Erika, Dorit and Teddi still in the cast? They should.have been cut a long time ago. While peeps hate OC...they at least know when it's time for someone to go.

My mom, when she was alive, loved Zimme4 as NOLA, Echo, and Jodie on SB..but didn't like her as Reva. I did see her 1983 Echo..loads different than Reva