4 hours ago, titan1978 said:

My Faison family problem is the same one I had with the Dimera’s on DAYS. I have no problem with giving a larger than life villain more grounded material. But they built up an entire family around him, paired Sami with EJ, and the whole show started to be written around them as protagonists and not antagonists. Nobody in Salem should ever have been comfortable with Stefano walking around, and I feel the same way about Faison and Obrect.

ICAM!

7 minutes ago, carolineg said:

You know I hate crossovers, but it seems ill conceived even if you liked them. A GH villain, an AMC character, and a Loving character? I seems like a big ask for the audience of three soaps.

Was Angela Shapiro in charge when Faison/AH crossed over to LOVING? If so, then it probably was part of Shapiro's scheme to turn all the ABCD soaps into one "super-soap" ("synergy," as she called it). Plus, the network still wasn't ready to give up on LOVING, so they were trying everything to bolster the ratings (although, I think they would've been better off asking Ricky Martin to crossover instead, lol).

7 minutes ago, Khan said:

ICAM!

Was Angela Shapiro in charge when Faison/AH crossed over to LOVING? If so, then it probably was part of Shapiro's scheme to turn all the ABCD soaps into one "super-soap" ("synergy," as she called it). Plus, the network still wasn't ready to give up on LOVING, so they were trying everything to bolster the ratings (although, I think they would've been better off asking Ricky Martin to crossover instead, lol).

I think it was pre-Angela Shapiro. At least Ricky Martin would make sense. I don't think it would grab viewers but L&B booking a tour around towns for Miguel to perform in is a bit more organic. I think Faison is probably a bigger draw. I don't know by how much though lol. If you added some cameos with Lois, Brenda, Sonny, etc it would make the whole crossover idea a bit more hip and probably less expensive than the Universal Studios thing.

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

Obrecht is best used in moments like the scenes a few days ago where she saw through Willow's lies about Drew's condition and told Nina to wake up.

One of the things I hate about Britt’s storyline is that it makes far more sense for Obrect to be finishing Faison’s science fair project. She was already part of several of them. I admit to dropping out a lot during Ron’s last year and most of Altman/Passanante. Was Britt revealed to be some kind of special scientist then? I would have had Obrect reluctantly working on it and biding her time while they kept Britt alive, and have faux Nathan end up a surprise to them too.

22 minutes ago, carolineg said:

At least Ricky Martin would make sense.

No, it wouldn't, lol!

The only crossover that might have saved LOVING (for awhile) would've been to have none other than Erica Kane herself decide to pull up stakes and relocate her business, Enchantment, to Corinth. And I'm not even sure about that, lol!

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3 hours ago, titan1978 said:

The story is not good, and I see people complaining about the crash, Curtis, Jordan’s face, all of it all over the internet. But was this simply calculated and ultimately just a bad story foisted upon these folks to try to grab some of that audience or lure some of them back?

I think so, yes.

IMO Frank has shown absolutely zero initiative in enhancing or improving the Black canvas. He's simply added a second weak male for the main incestuous quad to bounce off of, a nobody for Trina on the backburner, and kept having Curtis swap wives regularly. There's nothing else there, I've always felt it's merely a timefiller to say a Black family exists. Adding or bringing back old/new characters of color would be too much effort vs. just keeping the tired characters that have been here too long and are not interesting (Curtis, Jordan). It's autopilot.

38 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

I admit to dropping out a lot during Ron’s last year and most of Altman/Passanante. Was Britt revealed to be some kind of special scientist then?

Nope, never.

15 minutes ago, Khan said:

No, it wouldn't, lol!

The only crossover that might have saved LOVING (for awhile) would've been to have none other than Erica Kane herself decide to pull up stakes and relocate her business, Enchantment, to Corinth. And I'm not even sure about that, lol!

Lol! I wouldn't pitch it as an idea, but if he's "touring", why not? It would give the actors on GH a rest for a few weeks so they didn't have to pretend they like Miguel's music at the Outback every day. 😂 I love Wally Kurth and appreciate Ned and Justin, but I feel for those actors having to sit through Eddie Maine singing pretending like it was cutting edge music too.

Loving and the City were always a snooze to me so I have no notes here. My only suggestion is perhaps they should have brought Angie back to AMC first for awhile then transferred her over. But that's for another thread.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

I love Wally Kurth and appreciate Ned and Justin, but I feel for those actors having to sit through Eddie Maine singing pretending like it was cutting edge music too.

It was creaky and middle-aged then!

11 minutes ago, Vee said:

It was creaky and middle-aged then!

But, there were leather pants? That's not cool? 😂

I still eat all those scenes up. It was always hilarious to watch everyone at Luke's bop along like that wasn't Ned going through a mid life crisis.