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What a huge mistake to air this classic episode.

All it does is remind us what we used to have and how awful the show is now. Every single thing these days screams no budget and no one caring.

I forgotten how many enormous sets the show had, how many extras babe work into scenes, have a camera would do sweeps around the actors, and how much of the cast they would work into an episode in meaningful ways. Just incredible.

If they put all of this online, I would gladly start watching again with shows in the early 90s and quit watching today's show completely.

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8 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

What a huge mistake to air this classic episode.

Very. You know how many times I rewinded the ending before I had to let it go...knowing it won't be available for a rewatch? But lame episodes are just sitting on their site.

11 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

If they put all of this online, I would gladly start watching again with shows in the early 90s and quit watching today's show completely.

Same. It would nice to see them for me with more adult eyes.

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49 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

quit watching today's show completely.

That's why classic episodes will not see the light of day until Y&R ends. CBS/Sony knows that if the best of Bill Bell was online, nobody will watch the hot garbage that are current episodes.

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33 minutes ago, kalbir said:

That's why classic episodes will not see the light of day until Y&R ends. CBS/Sony knows that if the best of Bill Bell was online, nobody will watch the hot garbage that are current episodes.

I think you're right.

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6 hours ago, janea4old said:

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1 hour ago, ranger1rg said:

What a huge mistake to air this classic episode.

All it does is remind us what we used to have and how awful the show is now. Every single thing these days screams no budget and no one caring.

I forgotten how many enormous sets the show had, how many extras babe work into scenes, have a camera would do sweeps around the actors, and how much of the cast they would work into an episode in meaningful ways. Just incredible.

If they put all of this online, I would gladly start watching again with shows in the early 90s and quit watching today's show completely.

I grew up watching Y&R around the MAB era and thought the show was so cool! Then I saw old school Y&R from the 90s and realized just how bad the product got by MAB's run. The same thing happened to me with soaps across the board, the glory days spoiled the modern product for me.

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50 minutes ago, kalbir said:

That's why classic episodes will not see the light of day until Y&R ends. CBS/Sony knows that if the best of Bill Bell was online, nobody will watch the hot garbage that are current episodes.

THIS.

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8 hours ago, Chris B said:

I'm pretty sure this was all her. Back in the day I had bought mst of 97-00 on DVD (which I foolishly lost at some point) and the transition between Bell/Alden was very obvious, despite their similarities. Jill and Katherine were firmly on the backburner in 1997 and one of Alden's big pushes was to bring them back to the forefront.

I didn't know they were airing a new classic from 1998 and even then, I expected the attic catfight episode. I was pleasantly surprised to see it was a new classic. I've missed Y&R and it was nice to see the show in such good shape. I miss the lush sets and set decorations, the glamour and that signature directing style which is gone. Y&R always seemed so unique and I hate that we lost pretty much all of it.

Was also nice to see so many characters I love. In addition to Jill and Katherine, it was so nice to see Nina featured. She is one of my all-time favorites and should be a frontburner character today. Tricia Cast can do so much with so little. Her final years on the show were brilliant. When I watched this originally, I believe this was before what we saw today but Nina was very depressed over Ryan cheating on her. Jill came over, much as she did today and she could tell something was off and told Nina that she had let herself go and she got her set up with a gym membership. It's so awful but also very Jill. What further complicated things is that you could tell she was genuine and trying to help Nina. I loved their interactions in the later years and the "peace" they found.

Yes! thank God it wasn't the attic episode...AGAIN. They can hold off on re-airing that, the masquerade ball and Victor & Nikki's wedding for a while.

I was thankful that this classic wasn't randomly interrupted by some special report, unfortunately I'm hearing that happen to some viewers around NYC.

Agreed with the previous sentiment that the show had warmer colors back then. Cheaply produced daytime shows like the news, soaps, and talk shows, looks so washed out now with the advent of HD.

Agreed that it's sad we've gotten away from extreme close-ups.

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I just wish they'd aired the second part of Jill crashes Katherine's party...Jess Walton delivers this monologue that effectively retells the Jill/Katherine feud and Jill goes nuclear. It's even better than the episode that aired.

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1 hour ago, kalbir said:

That's why classic episodes will not see the light of day until Y&R ends. CBS/Sony knows that if the best of Bill Bell was online, nobody will watch the hot garbage that are current episodes.

I think they still would, those who are left, because of nostalgia or habit. They know the show used to be better.

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1 hour ago, Planet Soap said:

I grew up watching Y&R around the MAB era and thought the show was so cool! Then I saw old school Y&R from the 90s and realized just how bad the product got by MAB's run.

The same thing happened with me and KNOTS LANDING. When I started watching in the late '80's/early '90's, Lynn Marie Latham (remember her?) and Bernard Lechowick were the showrunners, and I thought their "humor-infused style," as wikipedia puts it, was very much the kind of storytelling I wanted to emulate. Then, thanks to TNT, I was able to watch KL from the beginning, and I realized how much more focused on character the show had been before them, especially with Peter Dunne as producer. I still love many episodes from the Lechowicks' era, but for me, their work pales to what came before.

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1 hour ago, Planet Soap said:

Yes! thank God it wasn't the attic episode...AGAIN. They can hold off on re-airing that, the masquerade ball and Victor & Nikki's wedding for a while.

I was thankful that this classic wasn't randomly interrupted by some special report, unfortunately I'm hearing that happen to some viewers around NYC.

Agreed with the previous sentiment that the show had warmer colors back then. Cheaply produced daytime shows like the news, soaps, and talk shows, looks so washed out now with the advent of HD.

Agreed that it's sad we've gotten away from extreme close-ups.

I used to laugh at the "meaningful glance" moments and how cold and stylized the show was in that time, but looking back now, I appreciate that Bill Bell was giving Y&R its own identity. Something that the show has sorely lacked for many years.

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2 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I used to laugh at the "meaningful glance" moments and how cold and stylized the show was in that time, but looking back now, I appreciate that Bill Bell was giving Y&R its own identity. Something that the show has sorely lacked for many years.

Same here. I used to get annoyed over the show's dialogue, which I thought lacked humor and sass. However, after years of listening to so much shallow dialogue on all the soaps, including the current Y&R, I've come to regret not appreciating more how Bill Bell and Kay Alden crafted words for their actors that might not have sounded hip, but did illuminate the characters' states of mind.

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Yes, that classic Y&R style that verged on camp but had an emotional core that kept you hooked...

I always equate it to the Ross Hunter/Douglas Sirk movies of the 50's.

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