7 hours ago, DemetriKane said:

I am devastated! Ted/Maurice was my number one. This news really upsets me, especially, for him to be the first to go. So disappointing, ugh!

I'm familiar with Keith's work but I will give him grace until he airs.

If Maurice didn't choose to leave on his own, I will speculate and, say that it was his look. because there must've been a reason for us barely getting any Martin/Ted scenes. Keith doesn't look much older either.

I really thought Martin would be the first recast because the role is such a major part in the Dupree family. We really needed a slightly younger Martin to be believable as Nicole's son with it being specified that Martin and Smitty just adopted these grown ass kids when they were 12 and 13 for it to make sense.

I don't think Derek will be recast. I think the role will just fade.

9 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

I wouldn't mind Matt Atkinson for Derek! 

OOOOOOO...I like that idea!

Derek just doesn't have any spark to him at this point.

40 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

I remember reading that about Seyfried and being not surprised at all. The Lochlear interview with Goutman at least revealed not all was well 🙈

What interview is this?

5 hours ago, Chris B said:

I'm still upset by this. I am going to assume this was the show wanting a different take on the character. I wonder what the feelings are when his storyline ended up being such a breakout for the show and him being one of the most popular characters. I don't think they anticipated this when he was originally let go.

Really. I would argue that their decision has already backfired. People saw the photo I posted above on Facebook and one poster after the other was like HELL NO! The negative responses are pretty amazing if you ask me. This show is brand new. They cannot be making any more hasty decisions going forward. They just can't. The audience counts in a very big way. I hope the showrunners remember that.

38 minutes ago, NothinButAttitude said:

But I think MVJ is trying to make the show inclusive and not get pigeonholed by certain people and the media as just "the Black soap opera." 

I think there's a place for white characters, I just don't think Ashley and Derek are it.

I'm thankful it's early on. Before we had established some emotional ties with that beautiful man. LOL. 

It doesn't bother me. 

While they are at it - fix Martin and Ashley too. 

6 minutes ago, Vee said:

I think there's a place for white characters, I just don't think Ashley and Derek are it.

Agreed. Look at Vanessa, Joey, and Pamela. I am more interested in learning more about them than I am Ashley and Derek. 

Ashley is just too saccharine for me. She needs grit, and I imagine she'd've had it as she is one of the "have-nots." Thank God for Eva. 

9 minutes ago, NothinButAttitude said:

Agreed. Look at Vanessa, Joey, and Pamela. I am more interested in learning more about them than I am Ashley and Derek. 

I think Vanessa's twins are easy to bring on, as are any family of Pamela. (Vanessa's kids are mixed, but if they must have 100% white characters anyone in Pamela's family is easy enough - or just new people) Agreed about Ashley.

10 hours ago, Alan said:

We are talking about Ted, the character right? Not the actor? I think the character is absolutely needed to finish up the Leslie story. Otherwise the emotional impact of Eva being revealed as his daughter would be muted. Nicole, Martin, Kat, and the rest of the family would have no reason to interact with Leslie and Eva if Ted is absent.

I don't see them ditching the character of Ted. I genuinely do not, especially if Keith D. Robinson was signed to contract; they easily could have just kept on as a heavy recurring, but it is clear there is intent on keeping the role around, at least at this point in time. Could things change? Sure.

10 hours ago, Alan said:

In other words when to recast is a question of local convention rather than medium. Which was my original point. I think the comparison is fair.

And that's fine. I, on the otherhand, do not.

6 hours ago, Wendy said:

The first recast, from Lane Davies to Terry Lester, did have a gap. If I recall. Davies left around July of '89, and Terry Lester appeared in...I think, October '89.

But then Terry Lester had some loophole in his contract or someone forgot about renewing it (!) - I recall reading/hearing about both options - and he bolted in a hurry in 1990, so he wasn't around long, leading to the infamous two Masons in one episode. The first half hour with Terry Lester, then the second half with Gordon Thomson. (And even stranger, Europe had a scene where Dash Nichols hit Terry Lester at Julia's, and Gordon Thomson got up! LOL! In the US, Thomson's Mason was first shown outside drinking from a flask, if I recall, with the requisite "The role of Mason Capwell will now be played by..." bit.)

Lane Davies exited the role of Mason on July 21, 1989, while Terry Lester (the superior recast) debuted on September 29, 1989. According to Soap Opera Digest, it was suggested that TPTB missed the deadline date to renew Lester's contract, and when they did, he used that as his reasoning for quitting. He last appeared on November 1, 1990. Plus, it was suggested (via the same article) that he was unhappy with his storyline at the time. What's even more interesting is that it was suggested (and not denied) that Davies would return to the role, which would have been the best possible option, especially at this point in time.

It's interesting they transitioned from Lester to Gordon Thompson (a downgrade) in two different ways, and one of them Jill Farren Phelps mistakenly thought was how they went from Davies to Lester.

5 hours ago, Jdee43 said:

With Santa Barbara, they had 2 Joes, 2 Sophias, and 3 CCs, along with another CC who never made it to camera due to a heart attack, all in the first 6 months. 

Technically it was four CC Capwells within the first six months (plus, the unaired Lloyd Bochner); an uncredited actor was in the role following Charles Bateman's exit from December 13, 1985, to January 7, 1986.

10 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

I wouldn't mind Matt Atkinson for Derek! 

Please, no. We're finally rid of him [again] in daytime. He doesn't need a third try at it.

Honestly Maurice comes across as a lovely person but his acting was worse than Martin’s. Ted reminded me of Leon Black from Curb your enthusiasm. Underdeveloped character, miscast actor. His delivery was hilarious. 

They look close to the same age lol!!!

 

23 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

They look close to the same age lol!!!

Keith D. Robinson born January 17, 1976. Maurice Johnson born February 10, 1979. Only three years difference.

17 hours ago, Darn said:

Great, now we can get Andre, Jacob and Ted confused.

But really, he doesn’t look old enough to be Martin’s father (Daphnee doesn’t look old enough to be his mother either). I wonder what happened, the actor who played Ted was hardly one of the show’s problems.

Now? Ted already looks like Jacob and Andre

27 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

They look close to the same age lol!!!

 

That must be an older picture bc Keith most definitely looks the same age as the last actor

 

Superficially for me, OG Ted was sexy. I don’t see it with the new actor.

4 hours ago, 1974mdp said:

I don't think Derek will be recast. I think the role will just fade.

OOOOOOO...I like that idea!

Derek just doesn't have any spark to him at this point.

I've suggested elsewhere that we may have an actual need for Derek. The example I gave was as a random victim of a homicide. Every show needs some red shirts, right? 

I can’t remember the last time a recast was announced and the overwhelming response was people asking why two other characters weren’t replaced first 😂

I do wonder what other changes we’ll see at the 13 week mark. If Ashley and Derek are still hogging airtime come summer…💀