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I can't wait for Bill + Dani to have raunchy, clothes ripping, hate sex! Chemistry off-the-charts.

Huge plus that Hayley isn't being portrayed as simply a one-dimensional thirsty climber - even though she is!

The elevator birth s/l was a smart contrast to the Dupree's darkness with the wedding. I'm liking Ashley more than I thought. Nurse Shanice is brilliant!  

Kudos to all these scenes with several characters. It really makes it feel like old school soaps, plus it makes it easier to see the connections, conflicts, alliances, etc.

It was smart to start with 20 contract + 20 recurring. The talent will rise during the next few weeks.

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thanks for that. So plenty of sets to come, which is great.

I wonder how many of those sets are permanently set up and what sort of flexibility they have in using the sets.

Also, there must be room and provision for one off sets like Bill's hotel room and the room where Vanessa was preparing for the wedding. Maybe those sort of sets will be repurposed in the future.

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Now I’m done with Episode 006 from 03/03:

What a Turn of Events at the Wedding! I’m so happy it wasn’t just a Common Soap Dream and Dani actually put a gun out and Held them at gunpoint. I really did feel sorry for her. 
Chelsea live streaming the event is so ridiculously soapy but I loved it. I also was enjoying that little conflict of Naomi and her Detective husband Jacob. 
Nicole is such a sweetheart how she went After her and didn’t judged her. But Martin was just concerned that this bad press would put his secret into the Spotlight. He wasn’t concerned one bit about her lol 

I just wished Hayley would’ve Done it and kneeling down. Lol but they did married after all. Nice

But Anita was so strict and Cold.

But there is just One Thing that gives me some questions in my Head: Hello guys? How Can Dani‘s Stunt came out of nowhere when she was actually attacking Hayley and Bill like every damn Day last week? Lol

Wow! I’m so excited about the revenge Plot of Dana Leslie and Eva. We finally got some backround Story and got to know them and Set the revenge Plot in motion! Can’t wait for more. Both are such Strong actresses with Great Facial Acting too.

I know people seemed a Bit bothered by Ashley‘s Plot. But I have to say that it was working with me. I couldn’t Care less about the Patient. If it’s Not a Hospital Soap like GH, Binnelanders. Shortland Street, Grey’s anatomy then I don’t need any drawn put Patients and their backround Storys especially not in week 2. This was just a plot device to let André and Ashley Bond and it worked for me. 

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Poor Smitty.

I like where it looks like they’re going with him and Martin but the lack of chemistry is really hurting both actors and characters. I mean, are they ever gonna show each other any affection? And again, is that Brandon Claybon’s real voice? Because it sounds like he’s putting on a stereotypical “gay voice” 

The press conference was ok but I hope this isn’t the end of the follow up from Dani’s outburst at the wedding and that the effects of it play out for a long time. 

And, I hope there’s eventually some fall out over Dani/Andre because that could be another potential scandal as well or at least get people gossiping. 

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I mean, I've been rewatching Melrose Place , so brohugs, awkward ear touching and Andrew Shue's bad acting is all nostalgic to me right now. ngl

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Episode 7 was... good. Not spectacular. Good.

 Some bread for thought. 

Hayley and Bill's place is embarrassing. Really trashy looking. Suits Hayley good. It's quite clear that Hayley is Bill's midlife crisis and she'll just be a burden soon. Of course, she may get herself pregnant just to stay in the community. We'll see. But they don't have a long future ahead.

Martin is horrible. He acts like this is a soap opera parody. I've seen even children in commercials have more natural line delivery. I'm not giving him any more break, just because he's hot. Recast may help this situation a lot. Or... just give him some absurd lines and make the cringe intentional, I don't know. I'll repeat, he and Smitty have no chemistry and they look like strangers when they stand next to each-other. The truth is in the eyes and it's just not working. Someone will say - maybe that is intentional to show problems in the relationship... But no... it's not giving me this either - it's giving me dead... non existent connection ever, these people just don't fit. Chemistry can't be faked. Most of it comes from the fact that Martin struggles to act and convey emotion. I am still grateful for the gay couple, we need to be on screen as much as we can be. But I am calling a spade a spade. 

We saw a lot of the family's toxic dynamics. Dani's father is HER BIGGEST ENABLER. Just how I saw it. The way he twisted things for her and about her in front of the media... Jesus Christ. Anita saved this cartoonish press conference. She manipulated the media in a way that Stephanie did on Bold. She shifted the focus from her crazy daughter to... the trash Hayley. That's how it's done. It's not done by borderline denying or twisting what your daughter did. She acknowledged that Dani crossed a line. That was important for me. But she also put light on the reason why all of this happened. The catalyst of the events.

Anita is becoming the reason I'm watching the show, along with the good writing of course. I adore her.

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I hope I can watch live today! 

 

 

 

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Didn't Bill and Hayley just close on their new place?  Not enough time to go in and make it their own space yet.  Or perhaps the lack of individuality in their space is done on purpose to show that their new union is just that... sterile and without warmth.

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I'm pretty shocked at what a good job they've done with Lucas. I thought he'd be in and out in two months but Van has been so good in the role I feel it's inspiring them. I wish we could've gotten him as Smitty, but ultimately I do think they'll get there. Both actors have been good in previous roles, they just need to get to know their characters and develop some chemistry. If come May it's still not working I'll re-evaluate how I feel, but with the small improvements I'm seeing across canvas with each episode, I think it's a safe bet to assume most will make it work.

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I'm not going to judge BTG on gay representation less than two weeks in. The relationship between the two is clearly strained and weird in story, and that's not even getting to Martin just being a lousy actor. I certainly am not going to give GH points for revisiting the same tired well with Brad and Lucas at this point.

I will 100% pass on Van Hansis as Smitty lol

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not sure about that yet. looking forward to hearing more about her backstory. also hoping they flesh out her relationship with naomi. 

 

this could take a while. the downside of shooting so far ahead — they began with three months of episodes in the can. 

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I'd say she's been popular since her debut. If I were TPTB on this soap, I'd be dropping Ben Gavin (Derek) to recurring and placing Ellie Wang (Caroline Lee) to contractual status; then, whichever next role gets cut/demoted is where Ernestine Johnson (Shanice Johnson) gets upped.

Three months is nothing in comparison to the nine/ten months ahead in which DAYS shoots. Most American daytime soaps are six-to-eight weeks tape-to-air, so they're closer to the standard than DAYS. Even British soaps are more ahead in their production than most American ones. And them being ahead three months also gives them time to adjust and tweak now for episodes, etc. which is smart.

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