I'm not bored by this show at all but I would love more insight into these characters.

I'm fearing a OLTL replay.

Andre as Todd Manning.

Ashley as Marty Saybrooke.

5 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

Thank you for this. I thought I was the only one giving the side-eye to Andre's photography. I took better photos years ago with my Samsung 10. That collage of Ashley was laughably bad.

Honestly, some of the mantle photos in BTG homes look lousy, too. That framed photo of Bill and Hayley that Dani smashed was cheap looking, and no way would Anita Dupree want that weirdly posed photo of her kids on her mantle.

 

1 minute ago, Maxim said:

 

2 hours ago, Liberty City said:

 

And I fully disagree about the cliffhanger thing; Thursday's didn't feel like a Friday ending, and I didn't see any issue in how yesterday's ended, at all.

Neither did I. I keep wondering what the big deal is, but that's just me. I'm just so happy that this show actually made it to daytime TV. I have high hopes the kinks will be smoothed out soon. 

Edited March 15Mar 15 by MontyB

1 minute ago, Antoyne said:

It’s clear this isn’t new behavior for her. The Bill and Hayley situation just exacerbated her already poor behavior.

I agree. And I also want to point out - Dani Dupree is a character in her...  mid to late 40s. She is not a young girl who we always have to find excuses for. Add to that.. the fact that she chose to ignore Bill's other affairs... but suddenly when she is being humiliated in front of an audience by a friend of the family... (Hayley) - NOW she's got a problem with it. That to me screams that her current behavior is more connected to vanity, self-obsession and narcissism... than it is with actual HURT.

And yes... seeing how everyone acts around her... it seems that this disturbing behavior is a NORMAL happening in this house... a behavior that is... YES... going into extremes, because she can't process the fact that Bill deserted her for a young girl PUBLICLY. Yeah, it's cruel... what happened to her. Men cheat and leave women. Women cheat and leave men. And yes, sometimes friends fu-ck your husband. But that doesn't mean you now can... pull a gun out at a wedding... and people excuse you saying stuff like - Well she did it, because Bill hurt her... triggered her and etc. Well... if this was a viable excuse... then let's excuse all the criminals that do things out of passion and jealousy... they were also triggered.  That's not how the world works, THANK GOD.

Bill is NOT responsible for Dani breaking into people's houses, slapping people around and wielding golf clubs. SHE'S A GROWN woman. NOT A CHILD.  Bill is a jerk. Yes.  He chose a younger, cheaper, but probably, and from the looks of it - saner version of Dani. And I'll repeat - that doesn't mean that everything Dani does can be excused or justified with being deserted, cheated, triggered and etc. 

Normal people don't act like this. There are people who have FAR bigger issues than Dani. There are people who lose their children... people who are battling horrible diseases and people who are escaping wars. And they still have their act together and remain dignified. They don't go into scary meltdowns and they don't pull out guns, just because they snapped.

And I should feel pity for a bish that can't move on and wants to terrorize other PEOPLE? A woman that has all the money and the connections she needs to continue her life? There are women who have NOWHERE to go after getting deserted like this. They don't have a Dupree family enabling them. They don't have MONEY. They are left on the streets. And they don't act like that. 

I have more pity for the people she is harassing. Actually. Because you know what... cheating and stealing someone's husband is not illegal. It may become illegal some day, who knows... but it's not. It is disgusting, yes. Morally wrong, yes. A bad irresponsible man gets an erection... he cheats. END of story. BUT what Dani is doing perpetually is illegal. You can't beat people up, slap the sh-t out of them, threaten to kill them with a gun... and break into their houses... and then someone expects me to have empathy for that?! 

No f-cking way.

I have empathy for the real victims of this world. Not Dani Dupree - the narcissist baby that everyone enables.

2 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

Friday's episode was a weird one for me. 

-Tomas throwing in a random Spanish word here and there is cringe. Why do they write Hispanic characters this way? It's cliche and awkward. Have him speak on the phone with subtitles or interact with another Spanish speaking character if that was so necessary, but the amor, muchísimo, etc when just thrown in there to be thrown in there is giving Ricky Ricardo vibes.

In my experience this is actually realistic. I live in San Antonio which has a heavy latino population and this is how all of my spanish speaking friends talk. I think it's called spanglish. Even myself I use certain spanish words just because it's so common.

2 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

-Derek/Ashley/Andre. Wow, this is painful. There is nothing remotely interesting about Ashley. We don't even have the full backstory between Ashley and Andre, but their romance is just not believable. I like whoever said that watching Derek and Ashley scenes feels like watching a different show. 

They've done certain things to establish Ashley but haven't utilized them. Why didn't Naomi go to her friend Ashley to vent when she had issues with Jacob? Why hasn't Ashley talked to her girlfriend about the flirtation between her and Andre? Why did they give her a mom but never have them interact together? I still don't think the idea of a triangle is a bad idea but this storyline feels severely under-developed compared to the others on the show.

2 hours ago, GLATWT88 said:

-Haley and Bill scenes actually made me uncomfortable. There was just a weird uncomfortability about it to me. I don't know if it was the writing that was bad or Haley's acting that seemed off today or maybe a bit of both. 

I've always felt this about them. I believe she is in love but I don't see an ounce of love from Bill. I feel like she was one of many affairs and he got stuck marrying her. I get JR/Cally vibes from them. I do think she's going to fight for a real marriage but you can't win when the man doesn't want you.

 

29 minutes ago, Vanguardian53 said:

I'm not bored by this show at all but I would love more insight into these characters.

I'm fearing a OLTL replay.

Andre as Todd Manning.

Ashley as Marty Saybrooke.

I hope and pray this doesn't happen. I don't want *any* rape stories. I feel like US soaps cannot do them correctly and I find it so offensive. If I could ban one type of story it would be this. I do not want anymore redeemed rapists which is a trope that US soaps cannot resist. 

1 hour ago, dragonflies said:

Do people not realize what Bill did to Dani is why she's like this?? I doubt she was a "villain" till he cheated on her then rubbed her nose in it by moving into Fairmont

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

I don't even think it was merely him cheating; it's been established Bill had cheated before, but it was bringing it into the home she shared with him and with Hayley specifically that drove her to this Betty Broderick-level of behaviour. It's fully believable; at the launch of the serial, according to Karla Mosley, it'd only been six months since the divorce had been finalised.

 

1 hour ago, Soaplovers said:

Accurate (i.e. Dani and Nikki comparisons)

I have a feeling Dani has always been impulsive and emotionally unstable.  That flashback we were shown was from Dani's perspective... but seeing how the family walks on egg shells whenever Dani is around tells me that this isn't a new thing going on with Dani.

 

Im with Soaplovers. Dani didnt just turn crazy. I beleive she's always had her issues. The way that she talks about this dance with bill being their cycle implies they've been toxic to each other for quite some time but they always gin their way back to each other. They are very much like Sonny/Carly, Todd/Blair. The difference is Bill and Dani stayed married until Hayley. Im sure before she was spazzing out, obsessing over Bill's whereabouts, attacking the other women (if she knew them) and then run back to apologizing to Bill, wanting to be the perfect wife to save their marriage. He'd agree which put a bandaid on their problems. Hayley changed all that and Im not quite sure who left whom but either way its clear Dani has regret and wish the divorce hadnt been finalized

Now the drinking might be a new thing and that certainly hasnt helped

@Maxim Good assessment!

52 minutes ago, Vanguardian53 said:

I'm not bored by this show at all but I would love more insight into these characters.

I'm fearing a OLTL replay.

Andre as Todd Manning.

Ashley as Marty Saybrooke.

Im fairly confident that this show is not going to have a black man (one adjacent from the prominent family) rape a white woman. The optics for what this show is trying to achieve would just be too damaging to it. I dont see MVJ letting that fly on her watch

Edited March 15Mar 15 by Cheap21

5 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

@Maxim Good assessment!

I don't know what needs to happen to make people realize what Dani is doing is dangerous. She is dangerous. Even to herself. People get admitted to psychiatric facilities for behaviour like this. 

Will she have to push a pregnant Hayley causing her to have an abortion or something like that... Will she have to set their house on fire?

Anything is possible with a person like this. She won't stop. And it's clear her family will enable her till it's too late.

 

22 minutes ago, Chris B said:

In my experience this is actually realistic. I live in San Antonio which has a heavy latino population and this is how all of my spanish speaking friends talk. I think it's called spanglish. Even myself I use certain spanish words just because it's so common.

They've done certain things to establish Ashley but haven't utilized them. Why didn't Naomi go to her friend Ashley to vent when she had issues with Jacob? Why hasn't Ashley talked to her girlfriend about the flirtation between her and Andre? Why did they give her a mom but never have them interact together? I still don't think the idea of a triangle is a bad idea but this storyline feels severely under-developed compared to the others on the show.

I grew up and live in a city that is 65 percent Hispanic and I'm also a bilingual teacher with a degree in ESL and language development. And while I can agree that it isn't completely uncommon that a native Spanish speaker might drop a Spanish word in an English conversation, it's definitely not how it's presented on TV for these characters. It's obvious that it's done for effect and to show that the character is Latino/a, but it reads very inorganic and awkward. This code switching in conversation is definitely more common among bilingual speakers to each other, but to non-Spanish speakers, the language of conversation tends to remain consistent. Again, it's my opinion, but it's reading very awkward and cringe for me....and it's not solely a BTG thing.

19 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

 

 

Im with Soaplovers. Dani didnt just turn crazy. I beleive she's always had her issues. The way that she talks about this dance with bill being their cycle implies they've been toxic to each other for quite some time but they always gin their way back to each other. They are very much like Sonny/Carly, Todd/Blair. The difference is Bill and Dani stayed married until Hayley. Im sure before she was spazzing out, obsessing over Bill's whereabouts, attacking the other women (if she knew them) and then run back to apologizing to Bill, wanting to be the perfect wife to save their marriage. He'd agree which put a bandaid on their problems. Hayley changed all that and Im not quite sure who left whom but either way its clear Dani has regret and wish the divorce hadnt been finalized

Now the drinking might be a new thing and that certainly hasnt helped

@Maxim Good assessment!

Im fairly confident that this show is not going to have a black man (one adjacent from the prominent family) rape a white woman. The optics for what this show is trying to achieve would just be too damaging to it. I dont see MVJ letting that fly on her watch

Suddenly somehow I don’t trust this show. But we'll see.

52 minutes ago, Maxim said:

I agree. And I also want to point out - Dani Dupree is a character in her...  mid to late 40s. She is not a young girl who we always have to find excuses for. Add to that.. the fact that she chose to ignore Bill's other affairs... but suddenly when she is being humiliated in front of an audience by a friend of the family... (Hayley) - NOW she's got a problem with it. That to me screams that her current behavior is more connected to vanity, self-obsession and narcissism... than it is with actual HURT.

And yes... seeing how everyone acts around her... it seems that this disturbing behavior is a NORMAL happening in this house... a behavior that is... YES... going into extremes, because she can't process the fact that Bill deserted her for a young girl PUBLICLY. Yeah, it's cruel... what happened to her. Men cheat and leave women. Women cheat and leave men. And yes, sometimes friends fu-ck your husband. But that doesn't mean you now can... pull a gun out at a wedding... and people excuse you saying stuff like - Well she did it, because Bill hurt her... triggered her and etc. Well... if this was a viable excuse... then let's excuse all the criminals that do things out of passion and jealousy... they were also triggered.  That's not how the world works, THANK GOD.

Bill is NOT responsible for Dani breaking into people's houses, slapping people around and wielding golf clubs. SHE'S A GROWN woman. NOT A CHILD.  Bill is a jerk. Yes.  He chose a younger, cheaper, but probably, and from the looks of it - saner version of Dani. And I'll repeat - that doesn't mean that everything Dani does can be excused or justified with being deserted, cheated, triggered and etc. 

Normal people don't act like this. There are people who have FAR bigger issues than Dani. There are people who lose their children... people who are battling horrible diseases and people who are escaping wars. And they still have their act together and remain dignified. They don't go into scary meltdowns and they don't pull out guns, just because they snapped.

And I should feel pity for a bish that can't move on and wants to terrorize other PEOPLE? A woman that has all the money and the connections she needs to continue her life? There are women who have NOWHERE to go after getting deserted like this. They don't have a Dupree family enabling them. They don't have MONEY. They are left on the streets. And they don't act like that. 

I have more pity for the people she is harassing. Actually. Because you know what... cheating and stealing someone's husband is not illegal. It may become illegal some day, who knows... but it's not. It is disgusting, yes. Morally wrong, yes. A bad irresponsible man gets an erection... he cheats. END of story. BUT what Dani is doing perpetually is illegal. You can't beat people up, slap the sh-t out of them, threaten to kill them with a gun... and break into their houses... and then someone expects me to have empathy for that?! 

No f-cking way.

I have empathy for the real victims of this world. Not Dani Dupree - the narcissist baby that everyone enables.

This is a perfect character description of Dani. Nails it in every respect.

12 minutes ago, GLATWT88 said:

I grew up and live in a city that is 65 percent Hispanic and I'm also a bilingual teacher with a degree in ESL and language development. And while I can agree that it isn't completely uncommon that a native Spanish speaker might drop a Spanish word in an English conversation, it's definitely not how it's presented on TV for these characters. It's obvious that it's done for effect and to show that the character is Latino/a, but it reads very inorganic and awkward. This code switching in conversation is definitely more common among bilingual speakers to each other, but to non-Spanish speakers, the language of conversation tends to remain consistent. Again, it's my opinion, but it's reading very awkward and cringe for me....and it's not solely a BTG thing.

I'm with you on this -- it's very awkward to me, too. Feels forced, and it doesn't help that the Tomas actor is so weak.

21 hours ago, Antoyne said:

I feel Theresa also didn’t do as much as Dani has done in 3 freaking weeks. Today I was officially off the Dani train. She’s pathetic and not in a fun way.

I'm not off the train BUT that was toooooo much. 

2 hours ago, dragonflies said:

Do people not realize what Bill did to Dani is why she's like this?? I doubt she was a "villain" till he cheated on her then rubbed her nose in it by moving into Fairmont

 

 

Not Nikki Newman!!! Lord...

 

2 hours ago, kalbir said:

@dragonflies Dead at that tweet 🤣

Same. 

Another thing I disliked about Dani this week. Everyone tells her to not make Nicole’s program about her (why have her host it, then?), and she gets right up there and says, “I WAS TOLD TO NOT MAKE THIS ABOUT MEEEEEE, so let’s focus on Nicole!” Dani is a narcissistic bitch. I hope Hayley snaps one day, kicks her shoes off, and beats the fooking brakes all off of her. And yall, I hate cheaters! I was 16 when my dad did something similar to my mom (plus a baby!), so I do not easily root for the homewrecker, but when I tell you I need to see this girl wear her ass OUT.

The problem with Dani (and people like her) is that she grew up in a sheltered environment where, by virtue of her wealth and the societal standards of their circle, her narcissism has been only mildly addressed her whole life. Just a year or two in public school would have gotten her the character-building ass-whooping she needed to become a mature adult.

1 hour ago, Maxim said:

Photography on soaps and TV shows in general tends to be rather bad. It's pretty much screenshots that are cropped without any filtering.

On 3/13/2025 at 9:39 PM, Antoyne said:

It’s purely anecdotal but my partner who does not watch soaps and I got him watching this show, has literally never brought up a single question about character ages. I personally don’t care either and it hasn’t affected my viewing of the show. I enjoyed the family scenes with the teenagers yesterday. It was already mentioned they adopted the kids when they were young which would imply Martin and Smitty were younger as well so I’m fine with it all. 
 

I also think Karla Mosley has great chemistry with her onscreen daughters and the way everyone interacts they don’t feel like her sisters as some have implied. I clearly see two exasperated but supportive daughters in their portrayals.

All of this is such small potatoes to the [!@#$%^&*] the other soaps have done with uneven SORASing of some characters while not others born at the same time or before. Truly none of this bothers me or takes me out of the show.

Just offering a different perspective.

And a good different perspective. I can see the issue with the teenage kids, but at least it was already set up at the start by mentioning that Martin/Smitty adopted them young. So it did not jar me. Helped by them being great actors. Same on Karla with her daughters.