Members Khan Posted Wednesday at 09:30 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 09:30 PM I am dipping briefly into this thread just to say that some of y'all need to stop giving Ron Carlivati and Jamey Giddens more power than they have over Michele Val Jean or BTG. I realize most of us have soap fan PTSD when it comes to those two, but you're acting as if Ron and Jamey, and Ron and Jamey alone, are shaping the direction and tone of this show, or that the Black woman in charge is too damn stupid or weak to push back on their more heinous ideas. Frankly, it's insulting - to her, and to everyone else connected with BTG. Just. Stop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ReddFoxx Posted Wednesday at 09:34 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 09:34 PM In the wardrobe episode of the behind the scenes preview it was said that Eva is a thrifter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taoboi Posted Wednesday at 09:36 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 09:36 PM Which is why I'm cautiously optimistic about Jamey. Meanwhile, RC...I will see how I feel personally after a few more breakdowns by him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted Wednesday at 09:41 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 09:41 PM ^ This. A breakdown writer only has power to take MVJ's bible/projections and break it down into episodic form. At the end of the day, they still have to answer to her. I don't think she's going to allow JG and RC to camp it up and have it be a mess like DOOL was. I understand her hiring them as they're seasoned and she's worked with Jamey before. She knows his work ethic. And I don't even mind them pitching ideas to her, but I think MVJ is strong enough to know her vision and know how to rein them in. At the end of the day, this is her baby. I doubt she's gonna allow anyone to destroy it. That aside, why am I just noticing that the show is being preempted due to basketball?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taoboi Posted Wednesday at 09:48 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 09:48 PM I really love the music on this show. Interesting. It makes me wonder how long Ted and Silk Press Sheila had the affair now after that bit of tea from Silky. But I feel that while she might be lying about a lot of things, I feel there is also some nuggets of truth in what she says. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted Wednesday at 09:52 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 09:52 PM (edited) And if she does want Ron, Jamey and the rest of her staff to "camp it up," that's not to say it won't be GOOD camp, know what I mean? As you've said, @NothinButAttitude, she's hired them, because they're experienced - and that's what she needs right now, too: writers with experience, because she's too busy just trying to get this show off the ground to have to stop and train new writers on how to write outlines or scripts. Maybe, once everything settles, that'll change. For now, however, I'm trusting MVJ to know exactly her vision for her show and how best to achieve it. Edited Wednesday at 09:56 PM by Khan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Taoboi Posted Wednesday at 09:56 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 09:56 PM Ooo Andre...talking from experience about darkness? Do tell. Ooo look at Ashley having a scene with her mama. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted Wednesday at 10:25 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 10:25 PM Exactly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted Wednesday at 10:43 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 10:43 PM My girl Dani poured Jack Daniels Black Label down the drain!!!! I don't know if she can maintain that kind of position but I am sure going to celebrate it today! Ya know, I am kind of afraid that Nicole may be too perfect! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Soaplovers Posted Wednesday at 11:39 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 11:39 PM Ashley was more animated and interesting when interacting with her mom. Of course, we already knew her mom had some personality since she and Silk Press Sheila have friendship chemistry. Speaking of which, Eva and Silk Press Sheila each have pulled a stunt that the other isn't aware of yet. Eva having her mama kicked out while Silk Press Sheila did a bit of bumper cars with the assistants vehicle. I have a feeling this tale/scheme will climax in May.. I feel it in my bones. I know that a wait and see attitude is in order for Ron C and Jamey... but breakdown writers make sure that the head writer and their vision is laid out effectively. MVJ/Guza might have a good idea, but if the person implementing the idea is subpar then it doesn't matter how the good idea was.... and Ron C and Jamey don't exactly have a good track record (from what I hear, some viewers haven't been thrilled with Jamey's contributions at Days although the quality hasn't been good there for awhile). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kalbir Posted Wednesday at 11:42 PM Members Share Posted Wednesday at 11:42 PM I see what you did there Please register in order to view this content They are the weak links of the show so far. Andre comforted and supported Dani. I'm sensing a love slowly growing in two weary hearts. Why are Andre/Ashley being shipped? I'm not seeing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NothinButAttitude Posted yesterday at 12:14 AM Members Share Posted yesterday at 12:14 AM Yep. And she can easily phase them out once the inexperienced writers gain footing. And I don't mind camp, which the show has already displayed, in moderation and when it makes sense. But I don't see Jamey or Ron being in the driver's seat anytime soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DemetriKane Posted yesterday at 01:16 AM Members Share Posted yesterday at 01:16 AM (edited) I am not afraid, but I agree. There has to be something more to her, right? I had the same thoughts watching the episode of Nicole being honored. The mystery & intrigue missing from that episode was “We The Audience” should've knew something about Nicole none of the characters knew. On one of the podcasts I listen to called Nicole The Black Marlena LOL, I am not sure I want her to go down that crazy/split personality/Twin route yet. Edited yesterday at 01:16 AM by DemetriKane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted yesterday at 01:32 AM Members Share Posted yesterday at 01:32 AM This is exactly what I'm thinking! Does Nicole have a dirty secret? I just bet this is coming! Nicole as the Black Marlena, that is clever & delightful. Also totally apt. It fits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ranger1rg Posted yesterday at 01:43 AM Members Share Posted yesterday at 01:43 AM -- Today's episode was just ok, and a step down from what we've been getting. Definitely underwhelming for a Wednesday cliffhanger. Y&R was actually much better. -- The Derek and Ashley stuff is awful, and she's as much to blame as he is. There's no way he'd be permitted to go back to work so soon, and I think Ashley should share her Andre thoughts with a best friend, not her mother. -- And can Ashley stop looking at those photos Andre took? Weird. -- In fact, this show overdoes the "looking at photos" thing. I'm looking at you, Nicole. -- Still have no idea why the show wants to go there with Andre and Ashley. I see no reason he should be interested in her. -- I wanted more biting dialogue in some scenes today. Didn't get it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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