So is Cyrus a goner.

To bad I like Jeff Kober.

I didn’t just stumble across General Hospital. I feel I inherited it from my family, and it has been my favorite soap since I was little. But how many chances can the same creatives get when they are driving audience away?

1 minute ago, titan1978 said:

My hope is that the same thing does happen again, only this time the lessons need to be learned. Invest in creative voices, and make necessary changes bts to do it. If BTG’s even comes close to strong ratings for today, they other soaps have to evolve, or start planning for their last episodes. 

All true, along with the rest of their post.

I have no pity or sympathy for GH's creative regime at this point. I feel for the actors struggling with the mess. But that doesn't mean I don't think over half of the cast should be fired, because they should.

Sorry, but loving these soaps means wanting better for them. Not blindly cheering bad work and extraneous actors or characters on. Is it good for the genre if the Bell soaps stay on even in their current state? Maybe, maybe not. Do I watch them or care what happens to them at this point? Not at all. Will I weep if they go? Not particularly. For GH, sure. But I'd rather GH take the lesson, take the damage and get better. It won't do that if I develop parasocial relationships with actors I don't know, who don't know me, and think that being a fan means I have to always be positive about a show that has gone to shít.

2 minutes ago, reallyhateskateonlost said:

So is Cyrus a goner.

Finally. Far from Jeff Kober's best work. He should've been gone four years ago.

Everyone will blame Jason for getting rid of the virus 

31 minutes ago, Vee said:

Finally. Far from Jeff Kober's best work. He should've been gone four years ago.

Agreed. That character has been on fumes for years, and he's emblematic of Valentini's insistence on holding on to characters/actors for FAR too long. Cyrus has been a caricature since forever.

32 minutes ago, Vee said:

I have no pity or sympathy for GH's creative regime at this point.

Nope, me either.

33 minutes ago, Vee said:

Sorry, but loving these soaps means wanting better for them. Not blindly cheering bad work and extraneous actors or characters on. Is it good for the genre if the Bell soaps stay on even in their current state?

I'd be sad to see GH, Y&R, or BOLD or DAYS go, but I wouldn't dwell on it. My sadness would be for the genre itself -- saying goodbye to a form of TV that I've really loved. But I also know I'm angry about what's happened to those shows.

Look at today's GH. I just started the episode and already I'm angry.

Chase is in the bedroom, looking so fine in only red satin boxers, and Brook Lynn walks in like there's no heat in th damn house. She's wrapped in some damn robe that's so thick and covers so much that you cannot see an inch of skin.

That is not the daytime I know or want. It's one reason I'm so excited about BTG, which is intent on giving us the steamy and sexy and soapy.

GH continues to allow actors to call the shots, and that is disgusting. It hurts the entire show, and I'm sick of it. Amanda Setton should have been fired LONG ago for this bullsh_t, not enabled and indulged.

I don't care what happens the rest of the hour. They've already ticked me off.

 

6 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

In an unprecedented move, Michael Easton in partnership with Roger Howarth are planning a repertory soap where the 2 of them will play all the parts. Tentative title: Frank's Boyz.

Also starring Josh Kelly and Patrick Gibbons 

4 hours ago, Khan said:

"On the next BODY & SOUL...".

Greg Rikaart’s Theo harasses Zach Tinker’s Sammy. Tune in tomorrow! 😂

1 minute ago, AbcNbc247 said:

6 hours ago, Contessa Donatella said:

In an unprecedented move, Michael Easton in partnership with Roger Howarth are planning a repertory soap where the 2 of them will play all the parts. Tentative title: Frank's Boyz.

Also starring Josh Kelly and Patrick Gibbons 

And Gina Tognoni in the occasional female roles.

I think I'm enjoying GH right now a lot more than most of you are, especially now that Cyrus is dead. I don't think I've ever liked any of the performances Jeff Kober gave on the show, although I'll admit he wasn't bad in his final scenes with Elizabeth. 

However, even I was a little confused and disappointed that after what seemed like months of building to a "Who Killed Cyrus?" mystery, we actually see Joss shoot and kill him. This just seems like almost Josh Griffith-level squandering the dramatic potential of a situation. 

1 minute ago, prefab1 said:

However, even I was a little confused and disappointed that after what seemed like months of building to a "Who Killed Cyrus?" mystery, we actually see Joss shoot and kill him. This just seems like almost Josh Griffith-level squandering the dramatic potential of a situation.

Yep. Exactly. Another huge mistake.

I also agree but soaps don't take the time to plot out major story arcs like that anymore. They live week to week. It's a shame. Before the week is over they are already onto something completely different for the next week. This is part of why they lose viewers. There is nothing to get invested in. No long term romance build ups. Characters meet, hit the sack, get married, and two weeks later break up. No one cares. 

17 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Also starring Josh Kelly and Patrick Gibbons 

Greg Rikaart’s Theo harasses Zach Tinker’s Sammy. Tune in tomorrow! 😂

The thing is, if Frank and/or Ron WERE to launch an all-gay soap, it'd go through the roof, especially with the LGBTQ+ community; because, like it has been for many years with Black audiences, ANY representation is better than no representation at all.

2 minutes ago, Melroser said:

I also agree but soaps don't take the time to plot out major story arcs like that anymore. They live week to week. It's a shame. Before the week is over they are already onto something completely different for the next week. This is part of why they lose viewers. There is nothing to get invested in. No long term romance build ups. Characters meet, hit the sack, get married, and two weeks later break up. No one cares. 

ICAM!!

Edited February 20Feb 20 by Khan

On X, I was just told by a soap podcaster that my comment was "rude and unneccessary" when I said Brook Lynn was ridiculously wrapped in all those layers in a bedroom scene.

The podcaster attached a gif that stated "I don't like messy bottoms."

So I was out of line for wanting realism in a bedroom scene, but it was OK to call me a messy bottom. Got it.

BTW, I did not tag Amanda Setton in my post, although Frank, Josh Swickard, and GH were tagged. I think these people should know when stuff is bad.

 

47 minutes ago, BeeLol said:

And Gina Tognoni in the occasional female roles.

Breaking news! Jamey Giddens just signed as scribe!

GH is pulling out all the stops with murders, shootings and secrets coming out.

Someone is scared about BTG.😂

55 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

 I said Brook Lynn was ridiculously wrapped in all those layers in a bedroom scene.

BTW, I did not tag Amanda Setton in my post, although Frank, Josh Swickard, and GH were tagged. I think these people should know when stuff is bad.

This is GH going with the wishes of both Amanda and Josh.

It seems that Amanda Setton observes a modesty practice from her religious beliefs.  Which is why she dresses as she does on GH.

Josh Swickard doesn't have that, so we see him shirtless.  However Josh Swickard and his wife actress Lauren York Swickard (aka Lorynn York) have a pact that he won't do intimacy scenes, from their version of Christian beliefs.
(Lauren played an employee at the psych facility where Sasha was held in 2023).

At about 17 minutes in, Lauren and Josh start talking about the decision they made 

https://lifestyle.org/episode/chasing-faith-and-family-with-josh-and-lauren-swickard/ 

Edited February 20Feb 20 by janea4old