1 hour ago, janea4old said:

Jane Elliot commits to every scene!

 

1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

By far the most charismatic veteran actress on the show if you ask me.

JE is truly the last of that generation of actresses still working in soaps who gives 110% in every scene, no matter how awful the writing.

Edited April 24, 20241 yr by Khan

4 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

JE is truly the last of that generation of actresses still working in soaps who gives 110% in every scene, no matter how awful the writing.

On GH I think both Maura & Finola do that as well. 

3 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

On GH I think both Maura & Finola do that as well. 

I think it’s different with Jane. There’s a formidable, grounded aura to her presence on the show that can’t be matched. Even when the writing is awful or when they paint Tracy as a cartoon character. 

4 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

I think it’s different with Jane. There’s a formidable, grounded aura to her presence on the show that can’t be matched. Even when the writing is awful or when they paint Tracy as a cartoon character. 

Don't get me wrong, I like Maura West and Finola Hughes, but...trying to lump them with JE, Beverlee McKinsey, Elizabeth Hubbard, Susan Flannery, Erika Slezak, Robin Strasser....  No.

Edited April 24, 20241 yr by Khan

I did LOL at Anna silently taking the axe from Ned at the bachelor party. Great moment.

14 minutes ago, Khan said:

Don't get me wrong, I like Maura West and Finola Hughes, but...trying to lump them with JE, Beverlee McKinsey, Elizabeth Hubbard, Susan Flannery, Erika Slezak, Robin Strasser....  No.

Honestly, I get what you're saying. I just think we're at a point where the next generation is emerging. But, maybe I'm rushing things. 

19 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

I think it’s different with Jane. There’s a formidable, grounded aura to her presence on the show that can’t be matched. Even when the writing is awful or when they paint Tracy as a cartoon character. 

Well, Jane ranks with Beverlee McKinsey & Susan Flannery in holding an iconic elevated level  as really queens of daytime.

But on the specific issue of giving 110% every single time I think there are others who do that. 

Why is Ava telling Laura that Trina should not be seeing Ace in Thursdays preview? Manipulation?

4.24.2024

HW(s): Patrick Mulcahey & Elizabeth Korte

BDW: Suzanne Flynn

SW: Stacey Pulwer

DIR: Gary Tomlin

7 minutes ago, John said:

Why is Ava telling Laura that Trina should not be seeing Ace in Thursdays preview? Manipulation?

4.24.2024

HW(s): Patrick Mulcahey & Elizabeth Korte

BDW: Suzanne Flynn

SW: Stacey Pulwer

DIR: Gary Tomlin

Honestly, feels like they’re setting up a “Who Killed Ava?” mystery…

Just now, BetterForgotten said:

Honestly, feels like they’re setting up a “Who Killed Ava?” mystery…

Seems like Ava is just into Manipulation & Gaslighting these days

1 minute ago, BetterForgotten said:

Honestly, feels like they’re setting up a “Who Killed Ava?” mystery…

And we haven't even found out who killed Austin yet, lol!!

I do think Finola and Maura both try their best, but both their characters tend to suffer from still being dictated by the plot - Anna in particular often feels far away from what she was in her first run for this reason. 

I think this happened with Tracy as well, during her marriage to Luke, but with him gone now, she doesn't have as much constant degradation on her back - also due to the choice to not have her as the whipping girl of the family as she was for many years. 

On paper, any survival of the Quartermaine family runs through Jason or Michael, but Tracy just has such a compelling arc, even if a great deal of it was not intentional on the show's part. The longtime outsider of the family is now essentially the last one left to remember what once was and trying to guide them into a new world. 

I remember Leslie Charleson talking about how Gloria Monty had done her best to minimize the Qs during her second tenure and how fitting it was that most of her last creations in that second run ended up having their scenes in the Q living room. 

I'm glad that after all the unforgiveable damage Guza did to the family, they have still somehow managed to survive to be a focal point for another potential new era. 

43 minutes ago, Vee said:

There's no endgame there as long as Vanessa Marcil is alive IMO, lol. When this show goes off the air or MB quits or retires it will be Sonny and Brenda, hopefully not just with her coming back at the end.

I do think multiple regimes have known for many years Maurice and Laura just don't have it, and FV parked them together to try to keep the show stable and thought the FB, etc. or casual audience's loyalty for them would carry the day through endless mind-numbing couplehood sagas. Then that ended for a variety of reasons, probably not by his choice. It's always been a stopgap with LW in the role. And now that they've broken apart again I think it's more likely to stay that way than it was for far too long. JMO.

I want to believe this so much.  I agree with all the points about Mo and Laura just not having it.  I just don't want to get my hopes up and expect the worst lol.  

3 hours ago, carolineg said:

I mean, I know Sonny/Nina have some fans and it isn't the worst Sonny pairing, but did ever think it was an endgame pairing?  

Yeah, the story has barely started.  I am just not a fan of the idea.  Execution is key here.

In a word...NO. But you know me well enough to know if GH was cancelled tomorrow what's on my wishlist for Sonny.  And I expect him to BEG.  

 

In fact...one thing I was hoping for back then was that when Sonny/Nina got together that they would really play that Nina/Carly rivalry versus the slilted writing that came out of it leaning in Carly's direction. During and before Nixon Falls, I felt every scene that was a Carly vs Nina scene, it was even between both of them which is part of the reason I LIVED for their scenes. 

 

Another thing I was hoping for was that yes, Sonny/Nina would be together for a while. And that the one thing that could break them up...no question...IS BRENDA. Not that she would be around. But I could see Carly giving Nina the Sam-in-an-Elevator Special because it would play on Nina's insecurities and something Carly would do and use. Only for Brenda to FINALLY appear. Or at least that was what I hoped for back when we were getting frequent VM teases. 

 

I agree re: Heather's redemption. Execution is going to be key. And I have liked the fact they are playing the beats....again going back to mentioning upthread how new writers tend to just do it already, but these writers are slowly threading it into the canvas. Laura and Heather's conversation about the past. People for Heather. People AGAINST Heather...Portia's monologue coming to mind. If the cards are played right, it could be its own umbrella storyline that could actually divide the town. 

 

Again...I would love to see Heather in a more cunning villainess role because currently there is not one. 

25 minutes ago, Khan said:

And we haven't even found out who killed Austin yet, lol!!

I mean wasn't it made clear that we found out who did that? Though it might have been rewritten by this point. 

2 hours ago, Aragorn said:

The goal is a Hardy-Webber clan revival. Elizabeth will get involved in the Laura-Heather interplay. This is what Liz will be doing after Finn leaves her.

Totally down for that. 

 

1 hour ago, BetterForgotten said:

They seem to be chem testing Drew with everyone, today with Jordan. Not sure he’s worth this much effort…

Oh, yeah. Nina. Jordan. Willow. His presence around other woman NOT Carly has totally increased since the new writers started. Though it is funny given that the more Jason spreads his wings around town in places that Drew was in (and have done before), how pointless Drew is growing.

 

 

11 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

In a word...NO. But you know me well enough to know if GH was cancelled tomorrow what's on my wishlist for Sonny.  And I expect him to BEG.  

 

Obviously lol.

15 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

In fact...one thing I was hoping for back then was that when Sonny/Nina got together that they would really play that Nina/Carly rivalry versus the slilted writing that came out of it leaning in Carly's direction. During and before Nixon Falls, I felt every scene that was a Carly vs Nina scene, it was even between both of them which is part of the reason I LIVED for their scenes. 

 

Another thing I was hoping for was that yes, Sonny/Nina would be together for a while. And that the one thing that could break them up...no question...IS BRENDA. Not that she would be around. But I could see Carly giving Nina the Sam-in-an-Elevator Special because it would play on Nina's insecurities and something Carly would do and use. Only for Brenda to FINALLY appear. Or at least that was what I hoped for back when we were getting frequent VM teases. 

Yeah, I hated the slanted writing for Carly vs. Nina.   I do believe Carly does know both Jason and Sonny better than most women and does understand them.  Instead of letting Carly watch the whole Nina/Sonny romance implode like she knew it would,  Carly always had to be 'right'.  Nina was always the designated loser.

It also doesn't help that Sonny acts like he's never know love like this before with EVERY love interest.  

Brenda coming back and Nina slowly losing it would have always been a great story.

38 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I mean wasn't it made clear that we found out who did that? Though it might have been rewritten by this point.

If so, I totally missed it. AFAIK we know it wasn't a stranger since Austin recognized them & it seemed to be a male going only by shoes. Who are you thinking of? I suspected both Brennan & Valentin being behind it but not carrying it out. 

 

10 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Carly always had to be 'right'. 

Carly was wrong two huge times in the past year. Willow - illegal DNA test & keeping it from everyone that Nina was her bio-mother and Insider Trading. In both instances of her being wrong it was amazingly public. 

And Carly suffered significant losses in the past 2 years. Metro Court, Sonny when he died, Jason when Sonny reappeared alive, Sonny when he had sex with Nina on The Haunted Star, paid a 5 mil fine, Bobbie died & Drew dropped her at the first sight of Jason.