2 hours ago, Liberty City said:

Berman did some Hallmark films and in watching them I found she lacked acting skill.

No offense, @Liberty City, but I wouldn't judge someone's acting skills on a few Hallmark movies.  Those concoctions don't do anyone any favors, lol.

1 minute ago, Khan said:

No offense, @Liberty City, but I wouldn't judge someone's acting skills on a few Hallmark movies.  Those concoctions don't do anyone any favors, lol.

I've based it off of her work on General Hospital, which was pretty well done, and then she went to Hallmark and seemed to lose what made her spark. And no offense to you, but I wouldn't judge the films simply because of the network they come from. 🤷🏻‍♂️

4 hours ago, carolineg said:

Did you like Nik's intro story via Lulu's illness or did you dislike all of it? 

TBH, I had difficulty accepting that Laura had had a child that she told no one about, because I knew of the pain she herself had endured when she met Lesley - plus, you can't tell me that the same Laura who pulled a rifle or machine gun on Mikkos Cassadine and his henchmen BITD is suddenly so afraid of his idiot son and wife - but I think Bob Guza did an okay job justifying Laura's actions.  However, once Stefan's initial arc or whatever was left of it was finished, that should have been the end of him, and of the rest of the Cassadines (save for Nikolas, of course).

For me, the problem with Stefan/Katherine was that TPTB were obviously hoping to recapture the magic that SN and MBE had had as Patch and Kayla, but DAYS was a different show, Patch/Kayla were of a different time, and Stefan and Katherine were much different characters.

20 minutes ago, Khan said:

For me, the problem with Stefan/Katherine was that TPTB were obviously hoping to recapture the magic that SN and MBE had had as Patch and Kayla, but DAYS was a different show, Patch/Kayla were of a different time, and Stefan and Katherine were much different characters.

Stefan/Katherine was such a weird pairing.  I get the idea of it all, but it truly didn't work.  It strange how SN/MBE had so little chemistry on GH.  The whole Katherine might be Stefan's sister story didn't help either.  Then her sleeping with Nikolas.  Oy, Katherine was such a mess of a character.

I always thought Alexis worked pretty well fitting into the cast, but in a lot of ways her identity wasn't quite as tied into being a Cassadine.

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I always thought Alexis worked pretty well fitting into the cast, but in a lot of ways her identity wasn't quite as tied into being a Cassadine.

Honestly, I don't even know why they made her a Cassadine, lol.  And then, on top of that, she has a child with Julian Jerome?  I think that's entirely too much baggage for any character.

(If you're reading these boards, Mr. Mulcahey and Ms. Korte, I would seriously consider retconning Sam's paternity.  Just saying.)

 

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Stefan/Katherine was such a weird pairing.  I get the idea of it all, but it truly didn't work. 

Didn't Stefan shoot Katherine the first time he met her?  Oh, yeah.  That's exactly how I would want to launch my show's next big couple, lol.

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4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Stefan/Katherine was such a weird pairing.  I get the idea of it all, but it truly didn't work.  It strange how SN/MBE had so little chemistry on GH.  The whole Katherine might be Stefan's sister story didn't help either.  Then her sleeping with Nikolas.  Oy, Katherine was such a mess of a character.

I always thought Alexis worked pretty well fitting into the cast, but in a lot of ways her identity wasn't quite as tied into being a Cassadine.

Recently I had posted about the way SN was hired to play Stefan. 

In case it is not known, he went to a GH fan event with MBE who was already Katherine Bell & Wendy Riche came over to meet him & wanted to talk to him & the role of Stefan came out of that! 

So, a huge MBE/SN fan on TwiX replies that Wendy knew exactly what she was doing & what she wanted from the pair but that the writer screwed it all up. So, that has to be Guza & I admit that I thought it was fouled up from the getgo. I mean he met her by shooting her. HUH?!! 

9 minutes ago, Khan said:

Honestly, I don't even know why they made her a Cassadine, lol.  And then, on top of that, she has a child with Julian Jerome?  I think that's entirely too much baggage for any character.

(If you're reading these boards, Mr. Mulcahey and Ms. Korte, I would seriously consider retconning Sam's paternity.  Just saying.)

 

Didn't Stefan shoot Katherine the first time he met her?  Oh, yeah.  That's exactly how I would want to launch my show's next big couple, lol.

Yeah, all the years we waited for Sam to even ask about her dad and...Julian Jerome was the choice.  It could be better, but I care so little about Sam I can't bring myself to be mad.

I think Luke was the one arrested for the shooting, but, yes, it was Stefan that shot Katherine and paralyzed her.

4 minutes ago, Contessa Donatella said:

So, that has to be Guza & I admit that I thought it was fouled up from the getgo. I mean he met her by shooting her. HUH?!! 

I am pretty sure Richard Culliton bungled a lot of the Stefan/Katherine stuff.  Along with the ditching of Miranda, who I believe was actual supposed to be a Cassadine and screwed up the original plan.   I don't think this one is all on Guza.

21 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Yeah, all the years we waited for Sam to even ask about her dad and...Julian Jerome was the choice.  It could be better, but I care so little about Sam I can't bring myself to be mad.

I still believe it was Stavros. Julian was so pedestrian.

There is zero chance Guza wrote Stefan and Katherine lol. And looking at yet another tiresome blocked post, there is actually zero in that anecdote that would suggest it was his plan or even that Wendy Riche planned to pair them up. It's just some Patch and Kayla stan with a (biased) personal opinion on Twitter being touted as the gospel.

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5 minutes ago, Vee said:

I still believe it was Stavros.

But wouldn't that make Sam a product of incest?

I mean, in order for Stavros to have fathered Sam, they'll either have to retcon him back to being Mikkos' cousin, or retcon Alexis' own biological father.

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3 minutes ago, Khan said:

But wouldn't that make Sam a product of incest?

Yep. Which is why IMO Alexis never, ever talked about it for years back in the day - until Guza got fired, there was always the suggestion of something very dark there. I remain convinced she blocked it out and her mind has instead settled on the polite fiction of the dad being her brief prep school dalliance with Julian. Incest is not exactly something uncommon to families like the Cassadines.

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19 minutes ago, Vee said:

until Guza got fired, there was always the suggestion of something very dark there.

Well, in that case, why does it have to be Stavros?  Why couldn't it have been Mikkos?  That's even darker (if that's even possible)!

46 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Yeah, all the years we waited for Sam to even ask about her dad and...Julian Jerome was the choice. 

At the time, I don't think I criticized it too strongly, because, I thought, maybe it'll lead somewhere.  But, here we are, years after the fact, Julian's back to being a misty, water-colored memory, and little, if anything, is being made out of Sam's connection to another mob family.

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1 hour ago, carolineg said:

I am pretty sure Richard Culliton bungled a lot of the Stefan/Katherine stuff.  Along with the ditching of Miranda, who I believe was actual supposed to be a Cassadine and screwed up the original plan.   I don't think this one is all on Guza.

Yeah I think you're right there, most of the set-up was Culliton rather than Guza. I remember MBE writing a column in the Australian magazine TV Soap (this was around the time there was a brief resurgence in interest in GH there because of course Ingo had joined the show) that gushed at length about all the things that Culliton was doing. And she promised a big twist for Steve and Kayla fans which of course turned out to be Stefan shooting Katherine!

The main things Guza did that would've potentially undermined the Stefan and Katherine pairing was to pair Stefan with Bobbie first which in retrospect was a far more interesting pairing...and then at the end when Stefan became obsessed with Laura again and soon after post-parapet Katherine with Nik.

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1 hour ago, carolineg said:

I think Luke was the one arrested for the shooting, but, yes, it was Stefan that shot Katherine and paralyzed her.

I am pretty sure Richard Culliton bungled a lot of the Stefan/Katherine stuff.  Along with the ditching of Miranda, who I believe was actual supposed to be a Cassadine and screwed up the original plan.   I don't think this one is all on Guza.

Okay. Thanks for that info. I nabbed Guza only because he was HW at the time.

And the anecdote about how SN was hired, contrary to what someone totally uninformed has stated here, came out of the GH60 Special Edition mag, SN's own account of the event. 

5 hours ago, Vee said:

Same. I would prefer Marci frankly, as I always had issues with Berman's tics.

She also had raging anti-chemistry with most of her leading men. I never got the hype beyond "oh she's a young Luke." Yay...

59 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

There is zero chance Guza wrote Stefan and Katherine lol. And looking at yet another tiresome blocked post, there is actually zero in that anecdote that would suggest it was his plan or even that Wendy Riche planned to pair them up. It's just some Patch and Kayla stan with a (biased) personal opinion on Twitter being touted as the gospel.

1. The account was from SN's own account published in the GH60 Special Edition mag. What you have just posted is false.