3 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Does Corday still have his tiny percentage of Y&R?

Yes Corday still has a percentage in Restless. LIke 1% I think not 100% on that.

2 minutes ago, Errol said:

For what it's worth, it makes sense now why CBS made sure to note that Y&R was #1 in African American viewers when they announced its renewal last week. While it is no secret that is and has been the case for ages, this is the first time I believe the network made sure to note that in its renewal announcement.

And surprising perhaps in that a lot of folks have felt the show and/or Sony or the network worked for a long time to disassociate itself from its Black stars and audience for years. I wonder if that means anything will ever materially change at Y&R. I still have doubts. I certainly don't expect Victoria Rowell to ever return, though her turning up on The Gates would not shock me.

27 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

The Bell’s only profit from their stake in Y&R now, they are no longer pulling the strings or creatively involved. William J. Bell must be rolling in his grave that his legacy soap ended up that way, but it is what it is.

CBS could definitely tell the Bell’s when B&B is up for renewal to, “sell us your shares in Y&R or B&B’s ass is a goner.” Not saying it would happen, but they have leverage and especially if it’s true that they want to maximize their profits through ownership of the shows. 

The other alternative is the Bell’s sell their Y&R shares entirely to Sony and get out of the business entirely if B&B is cancelled. There’s nothing left for them in Y&R, but they could just use it as a stable cash cow. 

Thanks for the reply. I see the sense of it now. And, if CBS used the leverage ploy, that is old hat to them. If they've now been bitten by the soap ownership bug, owning 2 is twice as good as owning one. (Minus Corday's 1%.)

 

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Even if CBS dumped B&B, do not be suprised if ABC gets B&B or Amazon or Netflix picks it up. Iger at Disney/ABC needs and wants content for ABC and/or Hulu/Disney +. Amazon and Netflix need contant as well.

lol not going to happen at all. ABC has 1 soap for a reason, a soap that's hanging on by it's toe nails at this point

7 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

lol not going to happen at all. ABC has 1 soap for a reason, a soap that's hanging on by it's toe nails at this point

Anything is possible with Disney/ABC, to say that it is not going to happen at all is naive from a business perspective. Did anyone think CBS would do what they did ? Most would have said no. ABC owns GH - big difference. I bet it still makes money for Disney. If it didnt do you think Iger would still have it on the air. 

CBS is willing to take a business risk. So Iger and Disney/ABC would not take a risk if B&B became available? Or revive a soap? Iger had gone on record that ABC and the Disney streaming platforms need more content. It is all about the money.

You may be right. But the Bells own B&B and they can move it anywhere if CBS decides to not renew.

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ABC is not going to want to pay a licensing fee for B&B, a soap they have no ownership in. 

5 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

ABC is not going to want to pay a licensing fee for B&B, a soap they have no ownership in. 

That is true. 

Maybe the Bells would sell a stake. WHat people fail to see is business always changes. And I was just laughed at not by you. SO you know what I am respectfully leaving. P&G back in the soap business?  Business it is all about making money, selling products and goods and selling ads.

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Wow, this is such incredible news.  There isn't much more to say that hasn't already been posted.  I'm just so happy for MVJ, and for the possibility of some kind of future for this genre.

ABC has enough soap properties that they don’t need to pick up B&B but GH is regularly in Hulu’s top ten so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see that AMC reboot revisited either on Hulu or ABC. Post strike I feel like everybody is looking at affordable alternatives and now that’s soaps. 
 

I am not surprised by any of this and I’ve been anticipating something big for soaps since Days went to Peacock. There is not other explanation for the surge in subscribers they got last year. A year of Days costs less than any of their other scripted programming and is driving year round subscriptions to them. Of course they won’t publicly say that but there is no other reasonable explanation. 
 

Now with The Gates, I can’t say I feel bad if something does happen to B&B. Brad hasn’t been trying and hasn’t allowed that show to evolve. You cannot convince me that anybody is putting in any effort this year. You know CBS must be fuming looking at the show and not having any input in it. My question is: does Brad even care? I just can’t get a handle on him. He seems to have no ambition outside of B&B and he has no passion in the show either but for whatever reason wants to be the HW. 

6 minutes ago, Chris B said:

ABC has enough soap properties that they don’t need to pick up B&B but GH is regularly in Hulu’s top ten so I wouldn’t be surprised if we see that AMC reboot revisited either on Hulu or ABC. Post strike I feel like everybody is looking at affordable alternatives and now that’s soaps. 
 

I am not surprised by any of this and I’ve been anticipating something big for soaps since Days went to Peacock. There is not other explanation for the surge in subscribers they got last year. A year of Days costs less than any of their other scripted programming and is driving year round subscriptions to them. Of course they won’t publicly say that but there is no other reasonable explanation. 
 

Now with The Gates, I can’t say I feel bad if something does happen to B&B. Brad hasn’t been trying and hasn’t allowed that show to evolve. You cannot convince me that anybody is putting in any effort this year. You know CBS must be fuming looking at the show and not having any input in it. My question is: does Brad even care? I just can’t get a handle on him. He seems to have no ambition outside of B&B and he has no passion in the show either but for whatever reason wants to be the HW. 

Brad is just like the rest of the writers...Ron etc etc. They write what they like and not what the audience might want to see. They get hung up on their favorites and only write for them. The stories are usually repetitive or just bad.

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7 hours ago, Chris B said:

Now with The Gates, I can’t say I feel bad if something does happen to B&B. Brad hasn’t been trying and hasn’t allowed that show to evolve. You cannot convince me that anybody is putting in any effort this year. You know CBS must be fuming looking at the show and not having any input in it. My question is: does Brad even care? I just can’t get a handle on him. He seems to have no ambition outside of B&B and he has no passion in the show either but for whatever reason wants to be the HW. 

Yeah so much potential last year, but this year...I am tempted to take a break because nothing is going on now. 

13 hours ago, Khan said:

If I've asked this question once throughout the years, I've asked it a million times: how in the [!@#$%^&*] do you have a show about the fashion industry that DOESN'T include at least one, regular character who is gay, bisexual and/or trans?

Exactly! Or, takes place in LA, and there are no Latino characters?

This is exciting news for the soap genre and I hope it will be a tip to the other networks to create or revive other soaps down the line.

Bold is the most internationally successful, still, to this day, soap in the history of soaps. The idea that Bold will be in danger because of this is... not based on facts. I wished it was! Since it would make Bradley do something other than mints, toes and staplers. But Bold is definitely not in danger. It will be the last standing soap, I am sure of it.