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I know Agnes Nixon was headwriter for Another World from November 8, 1965 – February 17, 1969. She created the role of Rachel from the AMC Bible character of Erica Kane. I am looking for the ratings jump for Another World. Agnes created AMC first and CBS rejected it in 1965/66 and she became headwriter of AW and trounced GH in the time period that is when she created OLTL for ABC which went on the air in July 1968. And the ABC asked Agnes for another soap and she dusted off the AMC Bible.

Love these promos..I used to love to search the TV Guide for them. I remember watching the Jeffersons!!

I love this!

Also when the Bold and Beautiful went to No. 2 in the late 80s. Not good for AMC and ATWT had a huge regurgence in the early 1990s after AMC was a solid No. 2 and GH was dethroned from No. 1 and then No. 2 by Restless and AMC. GH was lucky it had its time slot. ABC did not want to fiddle with their lineup and it cost them.

Absolutely. Restless was a powerhouse. ABC made a huge mistake passing on it in the 1972.

Agreed you and I both have that the Young and the Restless going to an hour in 1980 was a pivotal moment for both CBS but more so for ABC. When Bill Bell objected to Restless going to an hour and CBS told him we are doing it with or with you. Bill Bell turned over the show, the Fosters and the Brooks slowly phased out to new characters Victor Newman and the Abbotts and other characters as it needed additional content. Restless was placed up against All My Children at 1pm EST and lost 2 full ratings points. Days of Our Lives also competed in that slot. When Restless was moved to 1230pm EST it changed daytime history and when ABC did follow Agnes Nixon advice -- the dominoes fell and the effects were going to be felt decades later. Restless destroyed Ryan's Hope and Loving. ABC wanted to expand RH to an hour but Claire Labine and Paul Mayer in 1977/1778 they owned RH, but they rejected ABC's offer but in 1979 they were forced to sell to ABC because of high productions costs. ABC did not expand RH to an hour. The placement of Restless against RH ultimately weakened the whole ABC lineup. ABC approached Agnes Nixon for a 30-minute soap, and she and Doug Marland created Loving. Nixon wanted to move AMC to 12:30pm and have it compete directly with Restless and put Loving at 1:30pm and then have OLTL. ABC balked. Then Nixon suggested moving both AMC to 12:30PM and One Life to Live to 1:30PM then Loving at 2:30pm before GH. ABC Balked. So, Loving went up against Restless and was destroyed before it even premiered and AMC’s strong lead at 1pm slowly eroded and never recovered. Ryan’s Hope was ruined and moved to all different 11:00AM, 11:30AM and 12:00PM slots. Ryan’s Hope won many Emmys before 1980. I think Nixon should have remembered what ABC did to AMC in 1975. Nixon and her husband sold Creative Horizons which owned AMC to OLTL in 1973/4 to ABC for millions. Nixon remained Head Writer on both shows. ABC wanted another show in the mid-1970s – RH was born and when it premiered in July 1975 it got AMC prime 1pm EST slot and AMC was moved to 12:30pm EST. RH premiered strong. AMC was gathering steam at that time in 1pm slot and lost ground at 1230pm. Nixon was supposedly upset. In 1976, ABC approached Nixon to make AMC an hour. She hesitated. Nixon like Bill Bell and Irna Phillips knew the 30-minute serial was the best. AMC would get the 1pm slot in late January 1977 and went to an hour in April 1977. RH moved to 1230 in late January 1977. Nixon knew Restless was a threat to AMC and OLTL and ABC just did what they wanted. Fred Silverman also respected Nixon and he in the mid to late 1970s saved ABC Daytime with AMC the jewel in the crown in the beginning, expanding OLTL to GH to 45 minutes and 60 minutes and we all GH was going to cancelled and Gloria Monty worked her magic in 1978. Jackie Smith Daytime VP under Silverman created the “Love in the Afternoon” lineup with the lineup and created the famous promos. Essentially, the ABC lineup never changed from January 1977/April 1977 to the AMC’s end. It was always AMC 1pm OLTL 2pm GH 3pm. By not following Agnes Nixon’s suggestions that sealed the fate of the lineup. In 1987, the Bells created Bold and the Beautiful and CBS put it up right after Restless which Bill Bell insisted and up against the 130pm slot of AMC and the rest is history. General Hospital never had the competition that Restless, Days or AMC had. History may have been different. I am not surprised that the two Bell soaps are the last ones standing. ABC got rid of AMC and OLTL has a business decision. That had Bob Iger’s blessing Disney CEO at the time. It really was a bad move. The soaps could have been moved to Lifetime and been saved with GH. It was a business decision and nearly 15 years later the ABC lineup in the afternoon well is very weak. ABC passed on Restless and then Bill and Lee Bell went to CBS. ABC was offered Restless first – it wanted to focus on All My Children. Michael Brofman of ABC when watching Restless’ debut said we have trouble. Yeah, is an understatement. Imagine Restless and AMC together on the ABC lineup. Then the Bells went with CBS Lee Bell has strong connections to CBS through Chicago because of her talk show and Bill had a strong reputation with CBS and NBC. And so, it goes.

Thank you @kalbir for posting Angela's birthday!

Happy Birthday Angela!! I only owned the first 3 seasons of MSW...I today on Angela's 100th..bought the complete series for myself and a friend. Hallmark Mystery is taking it off the air until January (airing nonstop Chistmas/holiday shows) and we need our MSW!!

Dynasty was really weak storyline wise then too.

That's right! Thanks again. By then I think Dynasty was fading out but still competitive.

Thank you. I forgot the obvious......Did CBS move Magnum after that?

When did Magnum PI start to fall in the ratings? I just thought the stories got repetitive.

Sinclair will not be airing Kimmel on its stations as of now. Actually I have never watched Kimmel ever. I have no opinion of him whatsoever. I stopped watching late night a long time ago. I do not support government censoring speech at any level. I also never thought I would see a President of the United States talk about private individuals (ie Rosie O'Donnell), actors, TV hosts, etc in public. Presidents used to focus on domestic and foreign affairs and not on tv hosts, ratings Hollywood and comedians, etc. We live in a new world which I do not really like. I have seen Kimmel on the Oscars - he did well. But for his show never watched it. And I wont now. Never watched Jimmy Fallon or Colbert either. So assuming I do not "like Jimmy" - is just an assumption and very inaccurate. I watched Carson, Leno and Letterman on NBC. That's it. And yes they all got involved in politics. Times were less extreme then. The internet and social media changed the world including TV. As a Disney shareholder, I wish they would focus on movies and theme parks. Either fix ABC or sell it. Kimmel is a very small part of ABC and he does not affect overall ABC revenues and profits. Yes it is my opinion on what late night is. Honestly, I do not watch the news and broadcast TV anymore. More into cable TV, streaming and DVDs and books. I do not miss it. I recently gave up the Young and the Restless because I just got bored with it. The Gates was good but I dropped that. Good luck to Jimmy. I suspect this is round 1 in the fight with the government and Sinclair/Nextstar and the FCC. End of my comments on this subject. Going back to my DVDs The Twilight Zone (original), Murder, She Wrote, the Golden Girls and Night Gallery. I hope free speech wins.

I use the word obsess to make my point and you all made it. Late night TV is not supposed to be all political commentary and news. It is supposed to be entertainment, guest interviews and music. When a late night host has to provide political commentary daily -- it deviates from the purpose of the show. And yes ABC allowed Kimmel to do it. Did Johnny Carson do that? No. He got 9 to 10 million viewers a night. Kimmel gets at best 1.5 million. My point is Carson was the King and provded comedic relief. Kimmel not so much. Late night TV never was so political until Trump was elected. Trump moved the needle and not for the better. Honestly I cannot believe Kimmel lasted this long on ABC but that is not my call. I am glas he is back..let the right explode because soon the left will explode back. If you want real late night, watch Carson on youtube.