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1 minute ago, Khan said:

Thank you, @Vee!  I didn't exactly think this thread would turn into that, but I'd be more stupid than usual if I didn't know about his reputation here.

I'm not blaming you. It's entirely likely she hires him lol. But I really don't care either way about that right now.

Looking at people posting about Generations on social media today because of this, it reminds me that it's a shame Kristoff St. John isn't here for this.

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I wonder if it's possible Mishel Morgan could be considered as one of the younger leads for this - given her popularity with the CBS Daytime audience already and fresh after her Emmy win last year as the first black woman to win Lead Actress. 

14 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

MVJ deserves this moment, possibly more than anyone else in daytime right now. She's paid her dues, and was never ever given a fair chance when she was promoted to HW at GH. She's written standout scripts for both GH and B&B, she's contributed to SL's even when she wasn't the HW, and spent years slugging it for people like Sally Sussman Morina, Pamela K. Long, the Labine's, Guza, and finally Brad Bell. She's as talented, if not more, than those whose work she often uplifted. This is her chance and I hope this succeeds and she's given the creative freedom and respect she deserves. 

🔼⬆️THIS, All of this! And, on top of ALL of that, she hangs out on social media, not just with her peers, but with fans. 

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I'm not worried about the write-up saying it will focus only on rich people in a gated community - because you can't have the haves without the have-nots. There has to be some type of dimension or inherent balance for the overall narrative to work. 

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Amazing news. Astonishing. Miraculous. Thanks @Vee for tagging me.

I almost don't even want to believe it's true, because I don't want to get my hopes up. I can tell myself that at least they are considering a new soap, which is, I believe, the first time that's even been a possibility since Passions was created - almost 25 years! There have been trends leading here, especially the shift away from younger viewers being seen as the ideal, and presumably costs have come down enough to make a soap more viable, but I still never thought it would happen. 

I never hear anything about LMAD or TPiR (and that show used to be iconic to many), and The Talk you only hear about when people are leaving it, so if they want to have a soap that would be made at a good cost and potentially get more buzz, it might make sense. 

I've said on here before that the conversation I would see on Twitter about GH's Trina/Sprina and her family felt so organic, and so different from the weary, deeply cynical way we often have to deal with soaps in the last few decades. If someone sees that and decides to tap into the black audiences who were treated so cavalierly and disrespectfully by daytime in perpetual chasing of viewers who did not and would not ever care, it's long overdue.

I always thought that P&G's efforts at integrating a number of their soaps, while not all they could have been, never got enough attention. It feels right if they finally take the steps they should have taken in more diversity as a mainstay. And I've always thought if basic care had been taken, GL and ATWT would still be on the air today. It feels right if a P&G soap is what rises from the ashes. I was and will always be a P&G boy, and I miss my P&G soaps every single day.

I guess we'll see what happens. I do have a lot of respect for Michele Val Jean and I'm sure she will do whatever she can.

I remember that somewhat ghoulish Entertainment Weekly article on the death of soaps, circa 2012 or so, with a drawing of a graveyard of soaps. They truly were on the brink of death at that time, and in many ways still are, but still, it leaves me satisfied that a decade later, we're still plugging, possibly one more on the way, as EW is barely hanging on as a horribly designed website coughing up the same gossip regurgitated from ten other places.

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56 minutes ago, Errol said:

Either way, the way it was announced and what I know about the way it was announced, I would doubt it doesn't get a full series pickup. Especially with all parties involved. As noted by another poster, P&G isn't getting back into the soap game, especially with such an acclaimed writer as Michele Val Jean, to produce [!@#$%^&*]. So, I'm going on a limb and say this gets ordered.

Exactly! 

 

So cautiously optimistic with a side of 'baby, we back!' 

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33 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Agreed, that a half hour would be best. Don’t set this up to fail. 

Why? There's less ad money with a half hour and unlike BOLD no international type press etc  to build a brand 

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27 minutes ago, BetterForgotten said:

MVJ deserves this moment, possibly more than anyone else in daytime right now. She's paid her dues, and was never ever given a fair chance when she was promoted to HW at GH. She's written standout scripts for both GH and B&B, she's contributed to SL's even when she wasn't the HW, and spent years slugging it for people like Sally Sussman Morina, Pamela K. Long, the Labine's, Guza, and finally Brad Bell. She's as talented, if not more, than those whose work she often uplifted. This is her chance and I hope this succeeds and she's given the creative freedom and respect she deserves. 

Totally agreed, especially with how she really wasn't given a fair chance at GH.  I hate to be a bit pessimistic but she's going to be getting notes from three different branches (CBS, P&G, NAACP), which could become a "too many cooks in the kitchen" situation.  I hope not though and MVJ will get a chance to write her vision. 

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1 minute ago, BetterForgotten said:

Y&R airs as late as 4pm in some affiliates, particularly in the South, where it's traditionally done well. 

In Texas its:

LMAD- 9:00

TPIR- 10:00

YR- 11:00

Local news- Noon

BB: 12:30

The Talk 1:00

Jennifer Hudson Show- 2:00

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I know this answer will vary but what is typically the time span of a new being announced and when it airs? Again I know either way it’s far off but just wondering if anyone remembers. 

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6 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

I know this answer will vary but what is typically the time span of a new being announced and when it airs? Again I know either way it’s far off but just wondering if anyone remembers. 

My guess? Sometime in the next 12+ months, if not for this fall.

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