6 hours ago, 1974mdp said:

Sharon and her new "corporation." Snore. As if this show needed to talk about one more vague company that does zilch for the story. The show's obsession with these takeovers/mergers/CEOs is a head scratcher. It's ZERO interesting to hear the characters drone on and on about this company or that company. And, they seem determined to put EVERYONE in that "world." Chance leaves being a cop to do what??? To do some vague office job...why? Now, Abby wants in on the action, too, at Lily and Devon's ill-defined company. Soon, every single character (I wouldn't be surprised if Esther does next, too!) will work at one of these "companies." What is the story in any of this???

You absolutely nailed exactly what's wrong with all these business stories. In addition, we have execs changing positions AND companies all the time -- and on a whim. None of it makes sense.

What happened to the days when we saw actual Jabot lines and products and an argument over shelf space? I had problems with those, too, because of the stupid idea that only 2 cosmetic companies existed and that one of them had to be put down, but at least those stories weren't like potato soup made with mashed potatoes. (I don't know what that means, but neither do the business stories we see).

What does Chancellor-Winters do? What does Billy do? What is Chance doing? Can anyone explain what Sharon's company is all about? And yeah, the Cassidy First thing is a nice touch to history, but that's meaningless because it's the last time we'll hear about it.

 

2 hours ago, janea4old said:

Griffith has revisited a lot of old storylines in the past 10 months for the 50th anniversary and beyond. For example: Mamie/Jill, Victor/Eve, Victoria/Cole,  Devon/Harmony/Tucker, Cameron Kirsten, Daniel/Lily, the horrid Christine/Danny/Phyllis triangle, etc. and now Ashley feeling gaslit.
And one-or-two-day tributes of the Winters remembering Neil and the Abbotts remembering John.

Some of these storyline revisits worked, and some were bad, and some were merely checking off boxes.

The thing is, I'm fine with these boxes being checked. I love seeing old storylines revisited, seeing characters from years ago brought back.

The problem is that Josh Griffith introduces them with fanfare, and then the follow-through is PFFFFTTTT. Every single storyline ends as a disappointment.

Take the Cameron Kirsten/Sharon story. What a great month -- followed by NOTHING. No emotional trauma for anyone involved. All we got was a Sharon Case statement that she was excited about where it was going for Sharon.

That was all company-speak, because it led to months of NOTHING except Sharon inheriting a company from a psychopath who apparently ran it all from PRISON. And now we're reduced to Sharon having zoom meetings from her coffeehouse.

Kill me now and light me on fire.

 

24 minutes ago, ranger1rg said:

The thing is, I'm fine with these boxes being checked. I love seeing old storylines revisited, seeing characters from years ago brought back.

The problem is that Josh Griffith introduces them with fanfare, and then the follow-through is PFFFFTTTT.

Agree.

4 hours ago, janea4old said:

I don't like Tucker at all.  TSJ's portrayal is so smug.

Unfortunately, "smug" is the only thing TSJ can play.

I love Audra.  She's been the best soap character in a long time. 

Free her from the annoying Tucker!

7 hours ago, janea4old said:

Esther actually did work as a receptionist for Chancellor-Winters starting in October 2022. Devon said he hired her because Katherine considered Esther family. 

Esther worked there until sometime in 2023 when Sharon hired her to manage Crimson Lights.

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Recap of 8/23/2023 from soapcentral
https://www.soapcentral.com/young-and-restless/recaps/2023/230821.php#wed

At Crimson Lights, Sharon met with Esther. Sharon told Esther that she, Nick, and Adam were going to run a media company. Sharon admitted she would be very busy, and she asked if Esther would manage the coffeehouse for her because she wasn't ready to let it go. Sharon hoped it would be a good fit for Esther, but she also knew what being at Chancellor-Winters meant to Esther.

Esther told Sharon that since she'd been at Chancellor-Winters for a while, there were things she didn't like. She explained that when she'd accepted the job at Chancellor-Winters, she'd thought she would be talking to a lot of people, like employees and clients arriving for meetings. She claimed that was no longer the case, since meetings were via video conferences, text messages, and cell phones, and working from home had become the current thing. Esther admitted she wanted more human interaction.

Esther remembered how much she'd liked working at the coffeehouse previously. To Sharon's delight, Esther accepted the job. She told Sharon she should be able to start fairly soon, but she wanted to make sure Devon and Lily had someone to cover for her on the days she worked at the coffeehouse.
 

--- LOL at what I bolded.

Oh, God! You're right! Esther did work there, too.

35 minutes ago, janea4old said:

I love Audra.  She's been the best soap character in a long time. 

Free her from the annoying Tucker!

Agreed. And, bring on her family and her origin story. The actress continues to shine sh*t into gold.

2 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

 

What does Chancellor-Winters do? What does Billy do? What is Chance doing? Can anyone explain what Sharon's company is all about? 

 

Exactly. I seriously doubt the writers even know. What the hell was the point of giving Sharon this "company?" Now, poor Chance is reduced to reciting vague corporate jargon.

This brings up ANOTHER bone I have to pick with the show these days. Almost EVERYONE is super successful and rich (and yacking on and on about their companies.) There are NO characters trying to improve their lot and life and climb their way up...a soap classic staple!

2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

This infernal issue with sets and budgets, there’s a dignified solution in there somewhere. I’m fascinated by it despite no longer being a regular viewer.

Question: Does Sharon still have a house? Could there be space for a home office? People do work from those..

Sharon's cottage was shown during the Cameron return story.

The problem seems to be that the sets are organized for the week ahead to save money.

A certain number fit in the studio. So when laying out the week ahead if Sharon's cottage was to be used it wouldn't be feasible to have it just for a few scenes and further limit what other sets could be used.

They'd have to structure it so a fair bit of action takes place there, which with Sharon's limited involvement in the overall story wouldn't be possible.

Whereas Crimson Lights can be used for various characters.

On the topic of sets, the identical GCAC hotel room is used by multiple characters. 

No effort is made to differentiate the rooms, whereas if there was say a different sofa or floral arrangements etc then that would go some way to making it (slightly) more believable.

Is it that they can't be bothered or some union thing where they would have to have a particular person(s) on set to redo the room?

Ah, I see @Paul Raven. Thanks for that post. Maybe the only thing that can be done is to try to upgrade the back office at Crimson Lights. The last time I saw that back office, it was looking fairly grungy.

3 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

The thing is, I'm fine with these boxes being checked. I love seeing old storylines revisited, seeing characters from years ago brought back.

The problem is that Josh Griffith introduces them with fanfare, and then the follow-through is PFFFFTTTT. Every single storyline ends as a disappointment.

Unfortunately, he’s been writing stories this way for years. Someone should’ve nipped that in the bud when he started doing this.

 

 

^^That’s decent cross promotion and it made me chuckle. Made me long for the days when they use to do those cute preemption promos during the U.S. Open Back then, they really knew how to build anticipation for the shows returning after the Labor Day break.

Regarding the GCAC suite set that is used for everyone: all they ever do is change the room number plate on the door. They do keep true to who is in what numbered room. It sort of makes me chuckle as to who is in charge of being sure the correct room number is on the door for filming that day.

I agree that Sharon's zoom meeting on the patio at CL was beyond ridiculous. I seem to use that phrase all the time with this show. Why all the big talk back between Sharon, Nick and Adam when SNA was looking for and finalizing office space? Sharon made several points of saying she found the right place. I knew full-well that we would never see those offices, but now we get a zoom mtg. at CL? Good grief.

And I am sick to my stomach at the lack of proper treatment for Nikki with her alcoholism. Everyone enabling her to roam around lying, sneaking her teeny flask in and out of her purse/desk, etc. Victor sitting there acting like there's nothing else to do but wait around watching Nikki for when she slips up. This multi-millionaire should have been checked into a rehab and we all know it. Just a 30-day stint would really clear her system. This is ridiculous (beyond, like I previously said). Maybe MTS is due for a vacay and she will indeed go to rehab soon.

Sharon is getting that sweetsy sing-song voice again with Nick. They would be awful if they are put back together again romantically. Just no.

19 minutes ago, Beachstorm said:

Regarding the GCAC suite set that is used for everyone: all they ever do is change the room number plate on the door. They do keep true to who is in what numbered room. It sort of makes me chuckle as to who is in charge of being sure the correct room number is on the door for filming that day.

Maybe the actor whose character resides there gets the number in the morning along with their wardrobe for the day, and it's their job to affix it.

Seriously,if you were living there -and why would you be living in a hotel room?- surely you would personalize it with photos, books, maybe some of your clothes and stuff lying around-but no, every room is identical and pristine. The GCAC cleaners (never seen) must do a terrific job.

Edited January 31, 20241 yr by Paul Raven

44 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Maybe the actor whose character resides there gets the number in the morning along with their wardrobe for the day, and it's their job to affix it.

Seriously,if you were living there -and why would you be living in a hotel room?- surely you would personalize it with photos, books, maybe some of your clothes and stuff lying around-but no, every room is identical and pristine. The GCAC cleaners (never seen) must do a terrific job.

It’s quite amazing that all of these rich people would prefer to live in a single room, not even a presidential suite, rather than get an apartment or home 😂.

I enjoy that the show remembers that Audra and Nate are friends.

As I was in the OLTL days, I will be the sole TSJ and Tucker fan 😂

Edited January 31, 20241 yr by Antoyne

54 minutes ago, Antoyne said:

It’s quite amazing that all of these rich people would prefer to live in a single room, not even a presidential suite, rather than get an apartment or home 😂.

I enjoy that the show remembers that Audra and Nate are friends.

As I was in the OLTL days, I will be the sole TSJ and Tucker fan 😂

I am right there with you Antoyne, holding your hand on the TSJ train. So glad he's here as Tucker, although they are totally underutilizing him thus far. 😘

17 minutes ago, Beachstorm said:

I am right there with you Antoyne, holding your hand on the TSJ train. So glad he's here as Tucker, although they are totally underutilizing him thus far. 😘

It gets lonely on this island sometimes 😂. 
I genuinely love the Audra and Tucker relationship. The more we learn about her it’s clear her daddy issues are part of what draws her so much to Tucker.

Also I think it was a shame to waste the chemistry between TSJ and ED and immediately break them up.

Nikki running into Diane at Crimson Lights was hilarious. I really don’t think anyone in Daytime does snooty bitchiness better than MTS. I’m so happy Diane brought up Nikki bashing her head in with a rock 😂.

The men in Genoa City really can’t help but cheat on the women they’re dating when the woman goes out of town. Devon and Abby getting on their high horses was hilarious.

Edited January 31, 20241 yr by Antoyne