50 minutes ago, carolineg said:

RC really has done SSH/Julie a disservice.  I think he writes Doug much better.  I am not a Julie historian, but from what I have seen and what I have read Julie was much more sophisticated and glamourous.  I loved what I saw of her solo return in the early 90's bedding younger men with her fabulous 90's fashion and hair.  I can see Julie as being stuck up or snobby, but racist, bigoted, and a loud shrew?  Pass.  She is actually the butt of tons of old lady jokes too.  Again, Marlena or Maggie would never be spoken about that way.  I never thought SSH was an amazing thespian, but I have seen her capably handle material.  The Hayes seem happy and that's fantastic, but Julie has become a caricature and it's really a mockery of what Julie should be (or at least what I imagine Julie should be at this age).

Your 90s description of Julie sounds like Joanna Manning. I wonder who was writing her character on Days at that time?

1 minute ago, Soapsuds said:

I wonder who was writing her character on Days at that time?

Anne Schoettle and Richard J. Allen. And I think Gene Palumbo too.

Julie also ran her own company at the time.

@ranger1rg Scott Mckinsey was today's director. I noticed the director toned down Jennifer's hysteria from yesterday's episode.

2 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

@ranger1rg Scott Mckinsey was today's director. I noticed the director toned down Jennifer's hysteria from yesterday's episode.

I did notice McKinsey directed, which made me doubly shocked about the blocking of the scene I mentioned. And yes, "Jennifer's Hysteria" was toned down. I know Cady has a lot of fans, but I can't sign off on how she plays Jennifer just because Melissa Reeves is an awful human being.

Yeah, Julie is one of those characters I can't stand. Her, Maggie, and Anna - the meddling Mother Hens of Salem. God, even Satan couldn't kill her, but when Julie fell down those stairs, it was priceless. I just laughed and laughed. 

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53 minutes ago, carolineg said:

RC really has done SSH/Julie a disservice.  I think he writes Doug much better.  I am not a Julie historian, but from what I have seen and what I have read Julie was much more sophisticated and glamourous.  I loved what I saw of her solo return in the early 90's bedding younger men with her fabulous 90's fashion and hair.  I can see Julie as being stuck up or snobby, but racist, bigoted, and a loud shrew?  Pass.  She is actually the butt of tons of old lady jokes too.  Again, Marlena or Maggie would never be spoken about that way.  I never thought SSH was an amazing thespian, but I have seen her capably handle material.  The Hayes seem happy and that's fantastic, but Julie has become a caricature and it's really a mockery of what Julie should be (or at least what I imagine Julie should be at this age).

Just like you. The Julie i was introduced too. Was a sophisticated and glamourous high-powered businesswoman. Not a borderline racist woman. Wearing  mumu's from the Helen Roper collection. I liked her romances with Vic and Chip. As well Julie being a surrogate mom to Eve, Faith and Molly.

6 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

7 hours ago, edgeofnik said:

Nothing says that Sonny or Will can't connect with a woman either. 

I don't think RC would ever go there. With female characters, yeah. But male characters, no chance.

Well, Will's already been with a ... okay a girl. Been there, done that, found another path.

23 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

Your 90s description of Julie sounds like Joanna Manning. I wonder who was writing her character on Days at that time?

I liked that Julie a lot.  Like others have said she was a take charge business women that looked like she had traveled the World on cruises and was used to the finer things, but also had a caring heart.  I actually enjoyed her flirtation with Victor and didn't really miss Doug at all (although I am unsure what Bill was doing at the time to prevent him from returning)

11 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

Just like you. The Julie i was introduced too. Was a sophisticated and glamourous high-powered businesswoman. Not a borderline racist woman. Wearing  mumu's from the Helen Roper collection. I liked her romances with Vic and Chip. As well Julie being a surrogate mom to Eve, Faith and Molly.

Exactly.  There is a disconnect in her acting and actions, but also her wardrobe and overall style.  Obviously, wardrobe and styling is a problem across the board for this show.  Julie to me, though, is someone who would be glamorous in her late 70's and 80's.  I don't mind Doug/Julie living in the Horton house, but I think Jennifer is much more right for it.  Doug/Julie would care about the house, but live in a fancy penthouse/townhome in my mind. 

10 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I liked that Julie a lot.  Like others have said she was a take charge business women that looked like she had traveled the World on cruises and was used to the finer things, but also had a caring heart.  I actually enjoyed her flirtation with Victor and didn't really miss Doug at all (although I am unsure what Bill was doing at the time to prevent him from returning)

Exactly.  There is a disconnect in her acting and actions, but also her wardrobe and overall style.  Obviously, wardrobe and styling is a problem across the board for this show.  Julie to me, though, is someone who would be glamorous in her late 70's and 80's.  I don't mind Doug/Julie living in the Horton house, but I think Jennifer is much more right for it.  Doug/Julie would care about the house, but live in a fancy penthouse/townhome in my mind. 

Totally agree with everything.  I also see Julie and Doug living in a lavish penthouse/townhouse too. Like the one Julie lived in back in the early 90's.  But since Days so poor. They placed them at the Horton home. Which i don't mind.

Well, I think the thing with Julie is that she just kinda pops up where ever or whenever she's needed for a couple of one-liners. I can't think straight right off my head, but she's been judgemental towards those of their wrong-doings (that's not bigoted or anything), but she's more than willing to be a hypocrite and defend the impalpable actions by those considered to be a part of her "in-group". 😄

 

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4 hours ago, carolineg said:

ot it.  They way Nancy/Mike met up at the end after that whole closure scene with Craig had me wondering lol.

I just cannot figure what they are doing staring at each other. Or why he was so stiff & moving awkwardly.

I dearly love to see my FB Memories. This shows me what I was saying about DOOL a year ago.

October 4, 2021

I cannot abide the devil in Salem. I just sit here & grind my teeth. Thank goodness GH is actually good right now.

 

1 hour ago, victoria foxton said:

Totally agree with everything.  I also see Julie and Doug living in a lavish penthouse/townhouse too. Like the one Julie lived in back in the early 90's.  But since Days so poor. They placed them at the Horton home. Which i don't mind.

Yeah, it's not a big problem or anything, but it doesn't seem fitting for two people who traveled the world for years and do have lots of money.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Well, I think the thing with Julie is that she just kinda pops up where ever or whenever she's needed for a couple of one-liners. I can't think straight right off my head, but she's been judgemental towards those of their wrong-doings (that's not bigoted or anything), but she's more than willing to be a hypocrite and defend the impalpable actions by those considered to be a part of her "in-group". 😄

 

Julie has said some pretty problematic things especially some racist remarks to Gabi, which is really unnecessary because Gabi was the villian in that situation.  I feel like Julie's very valid points get very muddied when sprinkled with insensitive remarks for "comedic" value.

The only time I did laugh at one of Julie's one-liners to Bonnie was back in the early 2000s:

Julie (to Bonnie): "Well, I see the rotten little apple didn't fall very far from the twisted little tree!"

YAAAAAS! 😁

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2 hours ago, Tonksadora said:

I just cannot figure what they are doing staring at each other. Or why he was so stiff & moving awkwardly.

I thought the same. It's like they hired a guy who was never in front of a camera before.