5 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

And that's why the storyline failed and is continuing to fail: it's all being treated as one big joke

Been watching Ron's work for 13 years and that was one of the worst I've ever seen.

I'd be hesitant to even call it a story.  It was just a serious of several humiliating plot points.  We didn't actually get to see anyone's point of view and the characters (besides Leo) air so infrequently that you have no continuity.  I have no idea why Nancy would like Clyde.  He gave her a stolen bracelet and they had a few dinners at the pub.  That's not a relationship.

6 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I'd be hesitant to even call it a story.  It was just a serious of several humiliating plot points.  We didn't actually get to see anyone's point of view and the characters (besides Leo) air so infrequently that you have no continuity.  I have no idea why Nancy would like Clyde.  He gave her a stolen bracelet and they had a few dinners at the pub.  That's not a relationship.

Clyde has moved in with Nancy. Off screen of course. As you said we never get to see a relationship. They just randomly pop up after long absences.

11 minutes ago, victoria foxton said:

Clyde has moved in with Nancy. Off screen of course. As you said we never get to see a relationship. They just randomly pop up after long absences.

There are certain characters you can leave off screen for periods of time like John, Patch, Doug, Julie, Maggie, Victor etc.  They are established.   We know what they are doing off screen for the most part.  If you are trying to build a relationship with two characters (especially one with a very questionable background) you have to show it to at least give the audience a little context.  

Now I am not advocating Clyde/Nancy having more airtime than those vets.  I would rather watch John/Patch's old asses catch petty criminals at Black Patch all day.  But if you are going to do a serious romance between Clyde/Nancy at least give them build up or don't do it at all.  I am on the don't do it at all side.  Everything Ron does overall is just so lazy.  

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

He gave her a stolen bracelet and they had a few dinners at the pub.  That's not a relationship.

Neither is given backrubs and sharing a plate of scrambled eggs in a sh*thole studio apartment. You know what? Maybe I'm the one who should re-examine what a relationship truly is. First, I'll go on a smooth-sailing date, and then come by the second date, I'm putting nasal spray, dental floss, ointments, mouthwash, and any other toiletry you can think of in their medicine cabinet. Et voila! I'm now in a relationship. 🥰

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Neither is given backrubs and sharing a plate of scrambled eggs in a sh*thole studio apartment. You know what? Maybe I'm the one who should re-examine what a relationship truly is. First, I'll go on a smooth-sailing date, and then come by the second date, I'm putting nasal spray, dental floss, ointments, mouthwash, and any other toiletry you can think of in their medicine cabinet. Et voila! I'm now in a relationship. 🥰

Perhaps we all should re think our relationships.  

Honestly, the Ava/Jake stuff didn't bother me because it was a way to get rid of Jake and move Ava on to a different story/sphere, so I am fine with it.  Ava's most developed romantic relationship on this show was RoboJohn in 2008.  And that hasn't been spoken of since nor was it more than a month or two.🤣

Johnny/Chanel's entire relationship and marriage took place off screen as well.

The thing with Clyde/Nancy is you actually have to work on it to make it even slightly viable.  But RC won't so it's just a pointless waist of the audience and the actor's time.

Well, it's kind of like Eric and Jada too. I was trying to think of a really lame pairing especially when all Ava and Jake did was pass a roll a toilet paper to each other while they were using the bathroom. But, for Eric and Jada. How long has Jada been in Salem? A week or so? I don't know squat about her at all, and here she is having some kind of lunch at Brady Pub and immediately becomes smitten with Eric. Who is she besides a cop who was once married? What's her story? What's her deep past? Like I said, I don't know squat about her. I probably won't like her anyway, but still.

If I were a couples fan (which I'm totally not), then give viewers something to root for them. Instead, their blossoming relationship is over a bedroom above the Brady Pub. And Eric is right down the hall in case Jada needs fresh pillows or if there's a leaky faucet in the bathroom. And for Nicole? No need for jealousy as that boring conversation was just about as dull as her Mr. Panda. Whatever that stuffed animal doll she treasures. 

Half of these relationships on DAYS don't even seem like relationships. Don't even get me started on Belle and Shawn. L-A-M-E  O!

Edited August 12, 20223 yr by Noel

OT: I forget who else this happened to awhile back, but Carson Boatman also liked one of my insta stories (a funny TikTok) today.

1 hour ago, Noel said:

Well, it's kind of like Eric and Jada too. I was trying to think of a really lame pairing especially when all Ava and Jake did was pass a roll a toilet paper to each other while they were using the bathroom. But, for Eric and Jada. How long has Jada been in Salem? A week or so? I don't know squat about her at all, and here she is having some kind of lunch at Brady Pub and immediately becomes smitten with Eric. Who is she besides a cop who was once married? What's her story? What's her deep past? Like I said, I don't know squat about her. I probably won't like her anyway, but still.

If I were a couples fan (which I'm totally not), then give viewers something to root for them. Instead, their blossoming relationship is over a bedroom above the Brady Pub. And Eric is right down the hall in case Jada needs fresh pillows or if there's a leaky faucet in the bathroom. And for Nicole? No need for jealousy as that boring conversation was just about as dull as her Mr. Panda. Whatever that stuffed animal doll she treasures. 

Half of these relationships on DAYS don't even seem like relationships. Don't even get me started on Belle and Shawn. L-A-M-E  O!

I actually think they are trying with Jada.  We don't know a lot about her, but she has a discernible personality at least.  A pushy, kind of obnoxious one, but she's not exactly bland.  I can't blame her for being immediately smitten with Eric.  Greg Vaughn's a hottie lol.  I don't care for her and Eric, but they seem to be trying Jada with numerous guys (Eric, Rafe, Shawn). It does feel like Jada is a vague replacement for Lani though.

Belle and Shawn have been lame since 1999, so it's more of the same.  All the vets feel like they are in real relationships.  The only "younger" people that seem to have a real relationship at this point are Brady/Chloe.  A boring relationship, but I do feel like they have an actual love and desire for one another.

I think they're still building Jada as a character. There's obviously testing the chemistry with other actors, but I don't mind them doing that. She does have chemistry with Eric and I saw a little bit with Shawn too.

I'm sure we'll learn more about her as time goes on.

2 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I think they're still building Jada as a character. There's obviously testing the chemistry with other actors, but I don't mind them doing that. She does have chemistry with Eric and I saw a little bit with Shawn too.

I'm sure we'll learn more about her as time goes on.

Agreed.  I don't necessarily like Jada yet, but I feel like the effort is being made to work her around the canvas a bit and the show is actually trying to see who she has chemistry with before making her destine for a specific character.  I hate to give RC any credit, but I think they are doing a fairly good job integrating her.

The kid playing Thomas is adorable (those lashes) and a good little actor. His make-up scenes with Chad were touching, and very cute when he finally lost his tooth.

Sonny put his tennis shoed foot on the coffee table today and I yelled at the screen. What the hell is wrong with you, boy!? Reminds me of George Clooney’s guest spot on The Golden Girls when he has his shoes ON THE BED.

If this show has such a hard-on for RSW and just can’t quit him, I’m seriously considering that giving him a totally new character may be for the best. I would much rather tolerate him playing some trying too hard playboy than the ham fisted writing forcing the reformed necktie killer down our throats. (“If Dr. Marlena Evans says he’s a good man, then he must be.”)

I guess for me is that I don't understand the rush of it all. Is one absolutely nothing without a love interest or is that the reason why people watch soaps is because they like couples? Have you ever watched those Rom-Com movies where a couple asks the single character if she's married or has a boyfriend and she tells them that she's single? Then, there's this sad look on the couple's face as they look down on her with pity? Seriously. What's so wrong about being single? Sh*t, that means there's more people I can have fun with. I don't want to be tied down with the same ol' same ol'. As for Eric, I don't give a rat's patooty if he's a hottie or not. I've had plenty of hotties who are terrible in bed not to mention no substance. Why can't characters just stay single for a while, and when the right time time comes, let things happen organically? 

For example, Nancy. She just got divorced. I know that when it comes to relationships or marriages, healness takes time after a breakup or divorce. Instead, Nancy immediately jumps right in it after signing her divorce papers to Craig. Yet, on the other side of town, I'm surprised Chad hasn't talked to a new woman as fast-paced as these storylines are evolving. But, that's just me. 😄

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I don't think Eric/Jada are being rushed really.  Jada thought Eric was cute and nice (he is) and they decided to go running and then have lunch.  That sounds super casual to me and they have both (presumably) been single for a while.  I don't think any soap does a great job of keeping characters single for long periods of time.  It's certainly not something Days has ever excelled at.  I can't think of any main character that was single for a long period of time on Days off the top of my head.  Marlena in the 90's?-and even she was in love with John.  In real life being single is great, but on a soap it's just not something that happens often.  We will have to agree to disagree on this one @Noel, although I 100% agree with you about Nancy moving on at lightning speed after a 30 year marriage imploded. 

On the broader idea of couples on Days, I do think Days does a horrible job with couples that aren't over 50 lol.  They have done a terrible job establishing any tentpole couple in the younger generation.  Ben/Ciara were problematic and are gone, Chad/Abby were probably the best, but they killed her off, Will/Sonny get no airtime, Brady/Chloe, Belle/Shawn, and Eric/Nicole are okay, but mostly dull.  The show's most romantic couple are couples that have long been enjoying their AARP memberships🤣  IMO, this is a critical failure that is a very big part of the reason Days is being sent to Peacock to die.

On 7/31/2022 at 4:35 PM, Taoboi said:

When working out works AGAINST you. 

 

Or as Nene Leakes would say...NEVERLAND.

 

Speaking of Alex...yeeeeah, watching the scenes. I would say it was too soon to bring RSW back. I miss the days on this show especially when if you were going to do a recast, you let there be some time between actors/actresses and I remember DAYS being especially good at that back in the 90s. Actor gone, so build up the other characters/stories and bring them back at just the right time of dramatic tension. 

 

No offense to RSW (Alex feels like a mix between AMC Pete and DAYS Ben) but yeah, they shouldn't have. Missed opportunity. Alex feels throwaway.

 

Meanwhile, it was nice to see Eric and Belle sharing scenes. They moved way too fast with EJ/Belle, unless they knock her up. Ron loves his baby storylines. "They're easy". Anvil mighta been dropped with Belle all "no thanks to Jan's spawn being Shawn's" ... what goes around comes around ...

 

I love Jada Hunter already. So glad she's Marcus Hunter's daughter. I like Jada/Eric. 

 

Nicole feels so bland with Rafe. I'd re-pair Kate/Rafe honestly but that ship long sailed.

 

Enjoyed Chad/Thomas and CadyJennifer. "Hi cousin Shawn". Awww.

 

Leo's still a trip. So annoyed they dumped Craig. 

 

I don't mind Nancy/Clyde (on paper they work, and it's great to see Patrika Darbo still being used and I love James Reade). She in her heyday was a conniving bitch, so it makes sense but they play them wrong (a running theme with the main show).

 

I did miss a bit. Did Sami and Lucas get married OFF SCREEN?

On 8/2/2022 at 10:36 AM, te. said:

Kids on DAYS either seem relentlessly SORAS'd or they're sent off screen like Arianna (who should be on screen).

Hopefully, in wanting to keep Chad in the younger group they might not want to rapidly age up his and Abby's children, then again, I could also just see them sending them off screen for the next couple of years.

 

And they made a point to have Gabi say she was 9 years old. I was half expecting a teenage Arianna at this point but maybe they keep her where she should be age-wise. Like Will is basically the age he should be.

On 8/2/2022 at 2:37 PM, carolineg said:

I think there would conceivably be a place for Thomas or a Thomas a few years older to play a Carrie/RoJohn or Shawn D/Bo like role to Chad.  Christie/Colin O'Donnel weren't on a ton, but they were important and showed RoJohn/Bo's lives as a single dads with their own little side stories that weren't very airtime consuming.  I doubt the show has time or money to do that these days, but I thought it worked well at the time for both kids.  Plus, it gave the show some familial grounding as they weren't just talking about their kids.  You saw them.   I think it's ridiculous when mothers like Gaby and Chloe don't raise their kids at all.  Tate is more understandable for Brady because it makes sense his mother would have him the majority of the time.

Obviously SORASing is a huge problem, but I have said my opinions on Belle/Brady's aging so many times all I will say is it was AWFUL.

 

Ugh at the Brady/Belle aging (much like Claire was aged too fast but ORK made it work) ... I've bitched a lot about it. It's also glaring because Brady/deadAbby should be in the same group and now with Alex, RSW is more a contemporary to Sonny than his older brother. Just yikes moves at times that jar the show. Easy mistakes they shouldn't make. Would it have killed them to just, sorry but, let RSW go? I'm sure B&B would hire him.

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On 8/4/2022 at 3:50 PM, wingwalker said:

Zach looked amazing in the plum suit today. Not a lot of people can pull that off, but hot damn. They better make that a regular in Sonny's wardrobe. 

 

 

 

What an upgrade as Sonny Kiriakis. Seriously. Yum.

On 8/9/2022 at 8:31 PM, Soapsuds said:

It's unclear because Ron doesn't bother to explain it and doesn't do Dimera business stories at all. He just does a Dimera business scene here and there to explain what's happening.

 

I'm over the 'business stories' ... seriously over them. They should just be a backdrop. Y&R did them better back in their heyday.

 

JER did ok with the Titan stuff back in the 90s.

On 8/11/2022 at 2:48 PM, AbcNbc247 said:

Chad's grief is the best storyline on the show right now. I loved his scenes with Thomas today. And yeah, Billy Flynn and the kid playing Thomas do look like they actually could be father and son.

Clyde, Leo and Nancy gotta go. There's no purpose for the three of them and there's gonna be even less of a purpose once when Abigail's murder storyline ends.

Well, how could I have forgotten about Carson 😍😂😂

A Johnny/Ava affair or pairing is another reason why Tripp should've been kept on: I'd love to see his reaction to it. I could've used that in my own story idea that I had for the Tripp/Allie/Chanel/Johnny quad. And I also want my Tripp/Johnny rivalry/hatred 😂

As for RSW, I'd rather see him as Alex then Ben. But he really does have to work on his range, and the That 70s Show wardrobe that they have for him isn't doing him any favors. 😂😂

 

Jake/Ava wasn't horrible but it's blink and you miss it, like EJ/Belle (who was THIRSTY for his nether regions). Jake was a bootleg Stefan. It just didn't work.

 

Was going to say good job on recasting Rolf but he was SO cartoonish. I miss William Utay. And Haiduk felt checked out. It's like they always want Eileen but it's like they have Stacy rush in to play her. Love you Haiduk but I prefer her Susan, like I always say LOL.

 

Ava/EJ are probably next. Or we get EJ/Ava/Johnny which could be good if they invest in it. I like Carson Boatman ... not sorry about it  

 

Gwen feels like she's teetering on 'will she stay or will she go' territory. I'd play her with Gabi/Li. Stephanie should have had a past with Li.

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