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By BetterForgotten · Posted
Too many returns, that's when you know a show has run out of ideas and doesn't care anymore. Zoe annoyed the sh!t out of me most times, but the Kat/Zoe storyline will always be iconic and close to my heart (that's the era I first started following the show in near real-time), and probably the only storyline in 21st century EastEnders that had long-term value for the characters involved during their initial run together. However, after all this time and the writing choice that Zoe never wants to see Kat again, I think that ship has sailed and I don't know that it makes sense to revisit it at this point. -
By AMCOLTLLover · Posted
Former EastEnders star Michelle Ryan is reprising her role as Zoe Slater on the BBC soap following an absence of over 20 years. Itâs been reported that Zoe will return to Albert Square later this year and that sheâll take centre stage in a dramatic new storyline involving her family. The news comes amidst news of other big returns, which include Max Branning (Jake Wood), Tanya Cross (Jo Joyner), Shirley Carter (Linda Henry) and Ben Mitchell (Max Bowden), who will also be back in Walford later in the year. -
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Admittedly, I was a latecomer to ATWT (first becoming a regular viewer in 2000). But I really liked KMH's Emily. I thought she was a very specific kind of neurotic professional character, and I loved her prickly relationship with MM's Susan. I will say I don't think the show did her any favors after Hal died, stranding her in storylines with several of the show's dullest characters: nu-Paul, nu-Meg, and nu-Dusty. I actually quite liked one of her last major storylines, when she discovered she had a grown-up biological son with Larry named Hunter. But then Hunter just sort of disappeared, and the story fizzled out, which was pretty typical of the late Goutman years. -
I know the fashions have gotten mixed reviews but I actually like what the new costume designer is putting the cast in. It feels more modern and the more tacky pieces I feel make sense for rich people. They're buying for the brand and the price and we often see celebs in things like this. Especially for a character like Nikki, I feel the more over the top (and tacky), the more realistic it is. -
Well, her staff pointing out the movie connection never seemed to stop Long from using those plots. She was right about Vanessa--she needed a man who loved her, which she'd never really had up to then. But as others have pointed out, Long borrowed heavily from Taming of the Shrew to get it done. (which while I kinda disputed that, I get more now, having watched Kiss Me Kate a few times since.) -
"Holly had her share of the blame..." NO, she did NOT. WOW. That's what you get for trying to be fair and giving these people the benefit of the doubt! The Rita rape episodes do not seem to be available. It sounds like Calhoun thought it was not dramatized, but it was. I saw it when it aired. Yes, it's close to 50 years ago, and memories aren't 100% reliable. I also know that Zaslow reportedly complained that it was written too much like a seduction and that's why the Dobsons portrayed Holly's rape differently. Maybe it started like a seduction and she rejected him and that's when it turned violent. I don't remember that part, if it exists. What I do remember is that Roger threw Rita so violently to the floor that she hit her head. They showed him coming at her from her point of view and he looked all fuzzy. It was an act of violence, not a seduction. Rita kept it a secret until it looked like Roger might be acquited, and then finally admitted it. She didn't make it up, it definitely was not a ploy. -
I was actually referencing another scene between Roger and Alex, which I think is right after they marry. But yeah---I'm not really impressed with Calhoun's reasoning. Or the "both recall it wasn't unprovoked" line. Wasn't Holly trying to leave him when he raped her? Oy vey.
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I know we have discussed the location of Bay City in the Another World thread and the fact that originally Irna conceived of it as being the real Bay City MI, and it was later writers that treated it as a fictional Bay City [probably IL]. This article seems to suggest that that idea was well-established by 1981. I wonder when it started. -
By Paul Raven · Posted
Desert Sun, 22 December 1983 Guiding Lightâ writer looks for fresh ideas By TOM JORY Associated Press Writer NEW YORK (AP) - âGuiding Lightâ has been a daytime companion for millions since 1937, starting on radio and switching to TV after 15 years. Can anything new, really new, ever happen to the Bauers or the Reardons or any of the other folks in Springfield? âI get really upset,â says Pamela Long Hammer, principal writer for the CBS soap opera since March, âbecause Iâll come up with this neat scenario and someone will say, âThatâs like âStrangers on a Train.ââ âI think, âThey keep stealing my material.â âThe way I figure it,â she says, âthere are only so many stories in the world. Itâs the characters who keep the show new and exciting. All of our stories come from them: I donât come up with a plot, and then work a character into it.â Continuity is important. Someone out there surely knows all thatâs happened, to everyone on the show, in 46 years. How about Miss Long Hammer? "Nope. I care about what our core families have been doing,â she says. âIâm always interested in what happened to Bert Bauer (played since 1950 by Charita Bauer) 20 years ago, but as far as going back and reading scripts, no. âOthers on the show keep track,â she says. âIâll suggest something, and be told, âYou donât remember, but five years ago, they had this terrible fight. They would never speak to one another now.ââ Miss Long Hammer, a former Miss Alabama who came to New York as an aspiring actress in 1980, began writing for daytime television while playing Ashley on NBCâs âTexas.â She eventually wrote herself out of the story. Her staff for âGuiding Lightâ includes nine writers, among them her husband, Charles Jay Hammer, whom she met while both worked on âTexas.â NBC dropped âTexasâ after two seasons, and episodes from the serial currently are being rerun on the Turner Broadcasting Systemâs cable-TV SuperStation, WTBS. Gail Kobe, who was executive producer of âTexas,â now has the same job on âGuiding Light.â And Beverlee McKinsey, who played Iris Carrington in âAnother Worldâ on NBC, and later in "Texas,â will join the Lightâ cast of the CBS soap in February. Miss Long Hammer is reponsible for the long-term story, which can mean looking ahead 18 months or more. Staff writers deal with specifics, including the scripts for individual episodes. She says she draws on âimagination and instinctâ for the âGuiding Lightâ story. Often, that involves inventing new characters. ââI look at Vanessa (Maeve Kinkead), one of our leading ladies,â Miss Long Hammer says. "What could make the audience care more about her? âThen I think, âWhy canât she find a man she can love, who will also love her?â Voila, here comes Billy Lewis (Jordan Clarke). âAnother example,â she says, âis Alan Spaulding (Christopher Bernau). All of a sudden, heâs got a sister no one ever knew about. âThey come complete,â says Miss Long Hammer of the serialâs characters, including the new ones. âWe know who they are and where they came from long before the viewer gets all that information. Thatâs one of the most interesting things about daytime, the complexities of the characters.â The writers make a big effort to keep the show contemporary, and four of the leading players are in their late teens or early 20s Judi Evans, who plays Beth Raines, Kristi Tesreau (Mindy Lewis), Grant Aleksander (Philip Spaulding) and Michael OâLeary (Rick Bauer). âGuiding Light,â longevity notwithstanding, is a moderate success by that ultimate yardstick of the industry; ratings. The show is behind only âGeneral Hospital,â âAll My Childrenâ and âOne Life to Live,â all on ABC, and CBSâ âThe Young and the Restless,â among soaps. And Miss Long Hammer says sheâs convinced writing is the key to even greater achievement. âWhen I say I love the characters, itâs not a light thing,â she says. âI think what the audience senses is an enthusiasm and an energy among the people who do the show.â
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