2 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Do you think any of those folks would be willing to speak out? MVJ seems like she would just from her Twitter. 

MVJ definitely. Someone who is controversial round these parts but would have lots of great insights (and connections): Jamey Giddens.

13 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

MVJ definitely. Someone who is controversial round these parts but would have lots of great insights (and connections): Jamey Giddens.

 

Okay. I just spoke with Coryon. He says that it's focused on soaps for now and he's open to topics. I'll be sure to pass on all ideas. 

1 hour ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Okay. I just spoke with Coryon. He says that it's focused on soaps for now and he's open to topics. I'll be sure to pass on all ideas. 

 
I finally got a chance to listen to the whole thing and really enjoyed the discussion, even laughed along while shaking my head in disgust at the same time, especially with the Victoria Rowell situation. Hope to hear more discussions like this soon. 

Edited June 16, 20205 yr by soapfan770

4 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

Awe....thanks. I haven't been paying soaps much attention since the quarantine other than what I've seen come across my timeline Twitter. I'm just so tired of fighting them for the smallest presence for Black characters. I have let soaps go. 

 

I would like to think that daytime would see this change happening in the world and decide it's time to move forward. But I don't have any hope that it happen.

 

Except for the Cancelled Soaps thread, I've pretty much been posting about non-soap topics.  Only since coronavirus became a pandemic have I been even posting in the classic Y&R thread.  Topics like these are interesting to me, so I tend to engage when it comes to issues of representation. But I agree that without major structural changes to these soap production companies (which we know they won't do), the days of the daytime network soaps being watchable are in the rearview mirror. I gave up on the current set a long time ago.

People don't want to hear it but I agree with them. If soaps don't make changes, and make them quickly, they don't deserve to last another 5 years. From a pure quality standpoint I don't think they deserve it anyway, but aside from that if they don't take this opportunity to take a hard look at themselves and make changes when it comes to representation they can just go. They need to take substantive action behind the scenes and in front of the camera and not just do some performative nonsense in an attempt to shut people up. 

 

 

As someone whose two favorite soaps have been off the air now for nearly a decade, believe me when I say that it's not too terrible on the other side - I honestly think that once they're all gone, they might get more respect for their merits in hindsight. Kinda like those artists who became popular after death.

6 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

I found pics of Carla's wedding to Ed.

I believe singer Hazel scott performed at the Ed/Carla nuptials. Can someone verify that?

8 hours ago, All My Shadows said:

SourceRyan was here for years as "Ryan Chandler." Just typing that out brings back some good ol' SON memories.

Oh I LOVE Ryan, and Ashley, thought it was just Coryon, now I will listen 😎

1 hour ago, Paul Raven said:

I believe singer Hazel scott performed at the Ed/Carla nuptials. Can someone verify that?

Famous pianist and jazz singer Hazel Scott made a deal with the show's head-writers to make an appearance on OLTL as well. She would play a famous relative of Carla's who would sing a song to the newlyweds. Hazel Scott wrote the song herself and appeared in the October 3 and 4 episodes of 1973, in which Carla and Ed married. The wedding was also the first on-screen soap opera wedding of two African American characters.  

I got that from Carla's FANDOM bio. https://onelifetolive.fandom.com/wiki/Carla_Gray 

Edited June 16, 20205 yr by victoria foxton

11 minutes ago, rlj said:

Oh I LOVE Ryan, and Ashley, thought it was just Coryon, now I will listen 😎

I liked the podcast. I just didn't agree with them going off at MS.

5 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

 
I finally got a chance to listen to the whole thing and really enjoyed the discussion, even laughed along while shaking my head in disgust at the same time, especially with the Victoria Rowell situation. Hope to hear more discussions like this soon. 

 

Thanks for listening. 

4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

Except for the Cancelled Soaps thread, I've pretty much been posting about non-soap topics.  Only since coronavirus became a pandemic have I been even posting in the classic Y&R thread.  Topics like these are interesting to me, so I tend to engage when it comes to issues of representation. But I agree that without major structural changes to these soap production companies (which we know they won't do), the days of the daytime network soaps being watchable are in the rearview mirror. I gave up on the current set a long time ago.

 

I thought I was over it but I'm not. I wish this would end differently. But even seeing the particular climate, I bet this shows will come back centering the same folks in the same stories. 

Edited June 16, 20205 yr by ajsp35801

9 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

I thought I was over it but I'm not. I wish this would end differently. But even seeing the particular climate, I bet this shows will come back centering the same folks in the same stories. 

 

With a number of the most featured actors being close to or in the highest risk group (MTS, EB, PB etc.), I had previously wondered whether Y&R might be forced to rely more on its younger cast members but the poor writing would still be an issue...a big one.

I understand not being totally over it.  I still imagine better ending stories for my favorite cancelled show, which ended so poorly.

12 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

I believe singer Hazel scott performed at the Ed/Carla nuptials. Can someone verify that?

 

10 hours ago, victoria foxton said:

Famous pianist and jazz singer Hazel Scott made a deal with the show's head-writers to make an appearance on OLTL as well. She would play a famous relative of Carla's who would sing a song to the newlyweds. Hazel Scott wrote the song herself and appeared in the October 3 and 4 episodes of 1973, in which Carla and Ed married. The wedding was also the first on-screen soap opera wedding of two African American characters.  

I got that from Carla's FANDOM bio. https://onelifetolive.fandom.com/wiki/Carla_Gray 

 

From what I've seen in clips and of her biography, Hazel Scott wasn't just a singer but an extraordinary pianist.  She was known for playing two pianos at the same time.

 

 

Edited June 16, 20205 yr by DramatistDreamer

39 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

With a number of the most featured actors being close to or in the highest risk group (MTS, EB, PB etc.), I had previously wondered whether Y&R might be forced to rely more on its younger cast members but the poor writing would still be an issue...a big one.

I understand not being totally over it.  I still imagine better ending stories for my favorite cancelled show, which ended so poorly.

 

MS, EB, and PB weren't being used much prior to the shutdown. So that's in line with what the show wanted to do anyway.