41 minutes ago, dragonflies said:

 

 

"CBS is reportedly folding the daytime team into the Current Programming department led by Amy Reisenbach." 

 

 

Notice the use of the word "folding" the exact same word I used in my previous post. 

 

It's actually quite sad that the most discussion that Y&R gets these days is for exits for actors or personnel.

1 hour ago, dragonflies said:

 

That kind of says it all. The Talk was her pride & joy, even though it was the lowest rated CBS Daytime show. She couldn’t care less about the soaps. She interfered with them endlessly but she had no clue what makes soaps successful. Goodbye. Won’t miss you. 

5 minutes ago, VanessaReardon said:

That kind of says it all. The Talk was her pride & joy, even though it was the lowest rated CBS Daytime show. She couldn’t care less about the soaps. She interfered with them endlessly but she had no clue what makes soaps successful. Goodbye. Won’t miss you. 

Im excited about amy. She may love the soaps who knows.

2 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

AnHellica wanted to tell her story thru this Lola person.  Pure poor girl with admirable values (embellished, of course) meeting and marrying her white prince.

 

It's a shame, too, they've never touched upon that aspect of Kyle and Lola's relationship.  Having a Hispanic girl from a modest, working-class background see marriage to a rich, white boy as her ticket out of the barrio, so to speak, would have put a timely twist on the by-now-familiar soap trope.

 

8 minutes ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

Im excited about amy. She may love the soaps who knows.

 

Nobody -- and I mean nobody -- who works in the industry these days loves the soaps.  Anyone who did love them died off or moved onto bigger, more prestigious gigs a long time ago.  Nowadays, we're dealing with folks who look at running daytime as being slightly better than going out and getting a "real job."

Edited September 6, 20196 yr by Khan

2 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

It's a shame, too, they've never touched upon that aspect of Kyle and Lola's relationship.  Having a Hispanic girl from a modest, working-class background see marriage to a rich, white boy as her ticket out of the barrio, so to speak, would have put a timely twist on the by-now-familiar soap trope.

 

 

Nobody -- and I mean nobody -- who works in the industry these days loves the soaps.  Anyone who did love them died off or moved onto bigger, more prestigious gigs a long time ago.  Nowadays, we're dealing with folks who look at running daytime as being slightly better than going out and getting a "real job."

Sad but true

I think CBS soaps will get renewed for 3 more years. Than it will probably be done. Replaced by some stupid talk show. 

Why are we on a first name basis with "Amy" who none of us know?

Just now, Vee said:

Why are we on a first name basis with "Amy" who none of us know?

Reisenbach lol i just call people by their first names

Angelica was a mess but I know that when she was hired by Les Moonves he told her that she could cancel the soaps if she wanted to and she refused to do so. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Vizion said:

Angelica was a mess but I know that when she was hired by Les Moonves he told her that she could cancel the soaps if she wanted to and she refused to do so. 

 

 

Like jamey said lets hope there are people who still care over there.

16 minutes ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

Like jamey said lets hope there are people who still care over there.

 

Angie had many chances and all she did was show them the division was not needed.  

 

Good riddance and Jamey needs to spend him time worrying about how to recast that mess Givens on his chit show and leave Daytime alone.  

Just now, ChitHappens said:

 

Angie had many chances and all she did was show them the division was not needed.  

 

Good riddance and Jamey needs to spend him time worrying about how to recast that mess Givens on his chit show and leave Daytime alone.  

Yep. Hope things improve now without the lola agenda. 

35 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

Angie had many chances and all she did was show them the division was not needed.  

 

Good riddance and Jamey needs to spend him time worrying about how to recast that mess Givens on his chit show and leave Daytime alone.  

 

Thank you!

 

Not for one damn minute do I buy all the "But Angelica LOVES the soaps!" garbage coming from Giddens and others.  History proves those sycophants will say the same about anyone who gives them the time of day.

 

If AMcD loves the soaps SO much, how come Y&R, which was already in bad shape upon her arrival, became utter roadkill under her watch -- and worse, was beaten in the ratings by the likes of B&B?  If THAT is the result of someone at the network LOVING the soaps, then for God's sake, bring back Brian Frons or MADD, who clearly didn't gaf about 'em!

 

Furthermore, if AMcD was our catcher in the rye, that one person keeping soaps from disappearing over the cliff forever, well, then, maybe it's for the best we LET 'em disappear.

Edited September 6, 20196 yr by Khan

Giddens is clueless. He should focus on why his soap lost half its audience. McDaniel’s ouster is being celebrated by many people today. Rightfully so.

Personally, I do believe that Angelica McDaniel was a champion for soaps and was one of the last holdouts for the old guard in how things were done in television broadcasting in terms of daytime television on the big three networks. However, I am not shocked she was let go and I don't think there was much else for her to do at CBS. The network's reasoning for folding daytime into current programming is sound since it's already been done by ABC and NBC in years past and with traditional broadcasting being a dinosaur in today's TV/entertainment climate. Soaps have already been duking it out with the rest of TV in terms of awards recognition with their categories being folded to compete with all dramas at the DGAs, GLAAD not bothering to nominate them, the lack of interest in submission for a WGA by the soaps themselves. It's all about change. It's the way of the world. 

 

Right now, instead of competing with each other, the soaps, game shows and talk shows are competing against their overall profits individually and not in terms of what daypart they fall into. With streaming being ever more prominent, the soaps especially are leading the charge in online viewing habits. That's a good thing. That means that should broadcast transition to online even more, there is a place for that kind of programming. Heck, "Why Women Kill" on CBS All Access is a classic soap tale ala "Desperate Housewives" and it works online vs. broadcast because it's the type of show that streaming platforms need (soapy) to gain traction. 

 

Despite the faults of Prospct Park's management, "All My Children" and "One Life to Live" would have been perfect to transition online if they were canceled at any point in the last 6 months to a year. They were way ahead of their time from a business standpoint. Content notwithstanding.

 

4 minutes ago, VanessaReardon said:

Giddens is clueless. He should focus on why his soap lost half its audience.

 

"Ambitions" lost half its' audience, because people can take crappy writing only for so long.