the dumbo twist is probably that Victoria killed Delia, knew the entire time, and kept it on the dl. They are clearly trying to drum up something with Chloe + Billy with this whole "I'm the only one that understands him and can halp him!!!!" bs, and I'm sure we will find out in a "shockingggg!!!" revelation that Bella's Billy's kid.

 

and Kevin/Micheal are gonna be the new villains of the show, once Adam is declawed and welcomed back into the bosom of the family - because they all only hated him because he killzzord that kid, rite?! 🙄

 

 

12 minutes ago, dio said:

the dumbo twist is probably that Victoria killed Delia, knew the entire time, and kept it on the dl. They are clearly trying to drum up something with Chloe + Billy with this whole "I'm the only one that understands him and can halp him!!!!" bs, and I'm sure we will find out in a "shockingggg!!!" revelation that Bella's Billy's kid.

 

and Kevin/Micheal are gonna be the new villains of the show, once Adam is declawed and welcomed back into the bosom of the family - because they all only hated him because he killzzord that kid, rite?! 🙄

 

 

IF that happens are we gonna get a chilly fling?

Everyone hated Adam long before he killed Delia. That was one is his later despicable act. It started with the gaslighting of Ashley. 

 

 

3 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

It started with the gaslighting of Ashley.

 

Oh, they'll retcon that one, too.  Adam didn't really burn the fetus in the fireplace.  That was just some dirty laundry he'd been meaning to get done.

the way all the characters on the show within her age group are treating Zoe like ish they stepped in, tho realistic, is very off-putting (to me, towards them) and is making me kind of root for her... like, Lola is supposed to be this amazing, sweet person but she always treats Zoe like a nuisance. Same thing with Mariah and Tess... none of these people know this girl, but they all treat her like they don't want to and Summer always commenting on how she's such a wannabe... I hope whatever plan she has for them all goes off without a hitch. What a bunch of a-holes. 

Edited September 8, 20196 yr by dio

1 hour ago, dio said:

the way all the characters on the show within her age group are treating Zoe like ish they stepped in, tho realistic, is very off-putting (to me, towards them) and is making me kind of root for her... like, Lola is supposed to be this amazing, sweet person but she always treats Zoe like a nuisance. Same thing with Mariah and Tess... none of these people know this girl, but they all treat her like they don't want to and Summer always commenting on how she's such a wannabe... I hope whatever plan she has for them all goes off without a hitch. What a bunch of a-holes. 

I like zoe too. Its really nice that finally someone realises not every YR women has to be some heroine. I prefer these type of characters summer was more exciting last year even with that stupid billy story. I miss old kyle too.

lmao, is that "mysterious" lawyer Devon keeps talking about gonna be Hillary's doppelganger? How incredibly dumb, if so. 🤣

 

3 hours ago, AdamNewmanFan said:

I like zoe too. Its really nice that finally someone realises not every YR women has to be some heroine. I prefer these type of characters summer was more exciting last year even with that stupid billy story. I miss old kyle too.

 

i never liked Kyle in any of his iterations. He just never felt fully realized, and MM's acting has always been lacking. I did find Summer being his "weakness" his only redeeming quality and an interesting foil, and then they killed that so it's like whatever. LOL Anyway, the way all these characters are treating Zoe like trash has me feeling for her. 

8 minutes ago, dio said:

lmao, is that "mysterious" lawyer Devon keeps talking about gonna be Hillary's doppelganger? How incredibly dumb, if so. 🤣

 

 

i never liked Kyle in any of his iterations. He just never felt fully realized, and MM's acting has always been lacking. I did find Summer being his "weakness" his only redeeming quality and an interesting foil, and then they killed that so it's like whatever. LOL Anyway, the way all these characters are treating Zoe like trash has me feeling for her. 

For MIM do we know who caved first because i do not see sony giving her the raise

Whatever scenario they come up with for 'Hilary's ' return is going to be ridic.

 

Why not just style her differently, and create a new character who bears a resemblance to Hilary?

 

Devon can just fall for the new character, with the obstacle being she feels he's trying to recapture what he had with Hilary.

 

Instead of some long lost twin?

 

It's not like Mariah/Cassie...

Or...they could just say Hilary isn't dead.

6 minutes ago, Khan said:

Or...they could just say Hilary isn't dead.

Yeah they did it ln bold easily enough with taylor. 

 

Hilarys even easier because there was no heart monitor to flatline or anything

 But im happy MIM is back just hope shes not trapped in the penthouse for once a week after her first few eps.

On 9/6/2019 at 2:46 PM, Khan said:

 

Yeah, and by the end, many of us were sick of her, too.  Having a character be the center of all storylines -- even when the actor in question isn't in every episode -- tends to upset viewers.  Just ask GL fans who lived through the Bradley Cole era.

 

 

If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times: if bringing back HT is out of the question, then there is no good reason why Y&R can't kill off Victoria.  AH is not that big of a draw for them, especially not with Billy Miller still gone (for the moment).  Her being forced out of the show might impact the ratings, but only temporarily.  In time, people will get over it.

 

AGREED. Kill Victoria off. Heinle is useless.

 

Only reason folks don't want Tom back is because "they're used to Heinle" (I swear I've heard this multiple times as the reason, very few defend her)

 

No one should be the center of the show.

 

GL's devotion to Bradley Cole drove me away (that and a million other reasons)

 

Let's be real, Katie on B&B would have been axed years ago if not for Heather Tom. Heinle and Tom should have switched roles YEARS ago. Boggles my mind they didn't want Heather's Victoria. Tells me all I need to know.

14 hours ago, Khan said:

Or...they could just say Hilary isn't dead.

 

Exactly what they should do.

 

And they shouldn't have fired Loren Lott. You can have more than two black women on contract ....  

Edited September 9, 20196 yr by KMan101

1 hour ago, KMan101 said:

 

AGREED. Kill Victoria off. Heinle is useless.

 

Only reason folks don't want Tom back is because "they're used to Heinle" (I swear I've heard this multiple times as the reason, very few defend her)

 

No one should be the center of the show.

 

GL's devotion to Bradley Cole drove me away (that and a million other reasons)

 

Let's be real, Katie on B&B would have been axed years ago if not for Heather Tom. Heinle and Tom should have switched roles YEARS ago. Boggles my mind they didn't want Heather's Victoria. Tells me all I need to know.

 

Exactly what they should do.

 

And they shouldn't have fired Loren Lott. You can have more than two black women on contract ....  

But 

The black budget! 🙄 i still cant belive they told her they would rather write other people. Wtf

On 9/7/2019 at 10:37 PM, Khan said:

Here's my question: if Y&R is going to do what I THINK it's going to do and retcon Delia's death so that Adam is not the one who killed her, who will end up being the real culprit?  Is that why Billy suddenly has a split personality?  Are we about to learn that Billy, and not Adam, was responsible?

Have Cady McClain reprise Kelly for one day and we see on Video that ot was Kelly who actually hit Delia

11 minutes ago, John said:

Have Cady McClain reprise Kelly for one day and we see on Video that ot was Kelly who actually hit Delia

Thats what JG wanted. iirc