Shocked to wake up this AM to learn of the unexpected passing of @kristoffstjohn. Most of us who started in showbiz in the 80s knew & respected him. He was one of the best human beings I've known in this biz! Rest in Peace Good Brother! #HeavyHeart https://t.co/XW9itMP1mB pic.twitter.com/x2Vzebb0Zx

— Blair Underwood (@BlairUnderwood) February 4, 2019

'Very disappointed': Kristoff St. John's fans angry over 'Young and the Restless' tribute

18 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

'Very disappointed': Kristoff St. John's fans angry over 'Young and the Restless' tribute

Hopefully this mainstream scrutiny will compel them to do right by KSJ. Not holding my breath, though.

I stream the show in the evenings and they didn't include the tribute - only the next week preview, which I thought wasn't appearing this week.

2 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

'Very disappointed': Kristoff St. John's fans angry over 'Young and the Restless' tribute

Wait...these people were expecting them to put together a meaningful one-hour tribute show less than a week after his death? Do they even soap? I thought the initial tweet was pretty clear in that this would be a quick post-show moment. Any soap fan knows that it takes a month or two before an actual tribute is written, produced, and aired...

Yeah, even for lame-ass Y&R it's not realistic to expect them to throw together something meaningful practically overnight. These shows have taping schedules.

My issue with the segment wasn't the length. It was what was shown and, more importantly, what wasn't shown. 

18 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

My issue with the segment wasn't the length. It was what was shown and, more importantly, what wasn't shown. 

 

Exactly. I get you didn’t have time, but what they came up with is obviously so cherry picked and didn’t capture the essence of Neil IMO. I think promoting it repeatedly as a tribute confused more casual fans or people tuning in just for that. I just have to trust the April tribute will truly be fitting. 

 

Quick Victoria Rowell interview with ET: https://www.etonline.com/media/videos/victoria-rowell-mourns-young-and-the-restless-co-star-kristoff-st-john-in-emotional

 

 

The special episode for Jeanne Cooper was done three weeks after her death.  If Y&R is going to have their fans wait until April, it had better be good.  I won't hold my breath.

 

Yes, and that brief clip at the end of Friday's episode didn't even include Victoria Rowell, Tanya Lee Williams or Debbi Morgan from what I can remember.  I'll let you make of that what you will.

 

12 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

'Very disappointed': Kristoff St. John's fans angry over 'Young and the Restless' tribute

 

I was watching some of the newsreel clips above the article and one claimed that KSJ leaves behind a daughter and a fiancée.  Last I remembered, he has two daughters. And it was a CBS affiliate too.

 

 

That ET interview with Victoria Rowell was heartbreaking.  The pain and grief is palpable, especially that clip of Kristoff in his prior interview, then on top of that VR's reaction to seeing the clip.  I've mostly been able to hold back my tears throughout this time but that made the tears flow. 

Edited February 9, 20196 yr by DramatistDreamer

41 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

I was watching some of the newsreel clips above the article and one claimed that KSJ leaves behind a daughter and a fiancée.  Last I remembered, he has two daughters.

 

I guess the other daughter got Judy Winslow'ed.

12 hours ago, DeeeDee said:

'Very disappointed': Kristoff St. John's fans angry over 'Young and the Restless' tribute

Just saw Friday's episode and that tribute was awkward at best. It's a shame this is all Y&R could come up with...

Listen, I'm surprised they bothered to make the tribute (such as it was) or even advertise it.  I figured there would be a brief 'In Loving Memory' card after the fade to black and that would be all.

I think TPTB are used to having their decisions fly under the radar.

 

How many times is Y&R trending on Twitter and covered in multiple mainstream outlets, including an appraisal in the New York Times?

 

The microscope they’ve been under this week likely forced them to take *some* action quickly. 

21 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

I think TPTB are used to having their decisions fly under the radar.

 

How many times is Y&R trending on Twitter and covered in multiple mainstream outlets, including an appraisal in the New York Times?

 

The microscope they’ve been under this week likely forced them to take *some* action quickly. 

 

I definitely get the sense that Y&R is reacting, rather than taking action of their own volition.  My guess is that they thought that "tribute" after Friday's episode would be sufficient, especially since they had diminished the character so severely.  They hadn't foreseen that the response to KSJ passing would be so overwhelming and so sustained, on top of it.  They are in a position where they are behind things and are rushing to try to catch up to the response.

Dear One. You are just beyond that door. I hear you laughing. You are always with us. #yr #ksj #always @YandR_CBS @kristoffstjohn1 #missingyou https://t.co/nGKq2h9ziR

— Beth Maitland (@BethMaitlandDQB) February 9, 2019

2 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

I definitely get the sense that Y&R is reacting, rather than taking action of their own volition.  My guess is that they thought that "tribute" after Friday's episode would be sufficient, especially since they had diminished the character so severely.  They hadn't foreseen that the response to KSJ passing would be so overwhelming and so sustained, on top of it.  They are in a position where they are behind things and are rushing to try to catch up to the response.

Yep. KSJ’s death has produced by far the most coverage of any soap star we’ve seen, and we’ve lost some big ones over the years. Y&R severely underestimated his importance and now they’re scrambling and scraping to respond appropriately. I can only imagine the emergency executive meetings that happened this week.