BILLY AS THE ABBOTT MORAL COMPASS? WHATEVER Y&R.

The dialogue on this show is soooo much better.

 

Are we setting the stage for Phick 2.0?

 

Especially with a rumored Summer recast?

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27 minutes ago, mango said:

and Nick is just clueless. 

 

 

He is dumb as dirt.  He is not Victor or Nikki's son.  Nick has been a joke for many years now and it's never going to change until the writers decide to make Nick interesting by recasting the role and make him the heir apparent over Victoria.

4 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

BILLY AS THE ABBOTT MORAL COMPASS? WHATEVER Y&R.

It would be worse. It could be Tessa walking in and giving advice.

 

I haven't been interested in Billy since David Tom played way back.

Phyllis as Columbo! 

3 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:

He is dumb as dirt.  He is not Victor or Nikki's son.  Nick has been a joke for many years now and it's never going to change until the writers decide to make Nick interesting by recasting the role and make him the heir apparent over Victoria.

It would be worse. It could be Tessa walking in and giving advice.

 

I haven't been interested in Billy since David Tom played way back.

 

Recasting won't do squat for Nick if the writing is still horrible. See: all Billys since DT first left.

2 hours ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

She's just thirsty for a baby cause, I'm assuming, giving her one was in the notes from CBS and Sony. It started out fairly decent with her bonding with Cane's kid while lily couldn't. But then that turned into a does she or doesn't she want Cane. It was used to push lily back to Cane.

 

She, then, had the revelation she wanted a baby of her own after vehemently denying it for months.  But it was cause she wanted someone to love and whom would love her unconditionally. The story has now become, how will Hilary get a baby?  They've previewed at least 4 or 5 different stories as to how. I guess it's supposed to keep us guessing. Fail! 

 

Hillary isn't anyone's cheerleader. She's mean and an annoyance despite being shown as the only smart one in the qaud. She's someone for Mariah and Tessa to defend each other against and eventually win out over. I guess they've given her the reason of hormone shots to explain her OTT childish grating  behavior at least.

 

Agree about Devon finally being shown in business. Finally. But the entire point of it is to showcase Tessa and Mariah. 

 

+1000 

ICAM with all of this, particularly the part in bold.  Hils was written HORRIBLY today.  Watching those TOT scenes was painful, to say the least.  CG/Mariah worked as a smart ass, not Cassie 2.0, Tessa is a heaving waste of space, so the only way to make it interesting (in the writer's minds?) is to throw Hils into the mix.  It sucks.  I hate it. 

 

The only bright spot during that whole thing was RA/Noah.  I never thought I'd say this, but I liked him being the azzhole.  He sold it.  But....Tessa?!?!  She really tried to get the stick again?!?  huh?

 

 

45 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

Phyllis as Columbo! 

 

 

I was thinking the same exact thing.  LMAO 

 

Y'all do realize that the annoying fandoms on social media are running the show, right?

 

They badger, whine and crowd the social media accounts of the show's staff (they'd give the Russian bots a run for their money!) until the writers either cave in to their demands or try to split the difference with some weak compromised writing.

Before social media, it was e-mails and before e-mails it was phone calls and letter writing campaigns.

Almost none of the  post-Bell Sr. writing regimes have had the confidence to tell these groups to STFU because they know what they're doing-- probably because they don't know what they're doing.

 

I'm at the point where I can't even get worked up over crazy, inconsistent writing and character propping--it's a waste of my energy because it won't change anyway.

Yes, in my mind, I imagine how differently I'd write certain characters and storylines but that's about it. I can't get worked up about it anymore because I realize that it is what it is now.

39 minutes ago, GMac said:

 

+1000 

ICAM with all of this, particularly the part in bold.  Hils was written HORRIBLY today.  Watching those TOT scenes was painful, to say the least.  CG/Mariah worked as a smart ass, not Cassie 2.0, Tessa is a heaving waste of space, so the only way to make it interesting (in the writer's minds?) is to throw Hils into the mix.  It sucks.  I hate it. 

 

The only bright spot during that whole thing was RA/Noah.  I never thought I'd say this, but I liked him being the azzhole.  He sold it.  But....Tessa?!?!  She really tried to get the stick again?!?  huh?

 

 

 

 

I was thinking the same exact thing.  LMAO 

 

 

Yes! I actually found Noah interesting as the jackazz. If the show was smart, they'd continue with that and make him and Devon rivals. Have one a half drunk  jerk, the other an arrogant, self righteous know it all.  That's where the story could be. Cause they've twisted the female side so to the point that it's broken and unsalvagable. Plus, it'd take the heat off of Hilary...somewhat. they won't have to rely solely on her to be the antagonist.  I don't have any hope that she'd ever fully be relieved of the burden of making Mariah interesting and rootable though. (please, no one tell me  that Mariah doesn't need Hilary because the show thinks she does. They either find Mariah totally boring themselves or don't trust CG to pull it off on her own). 

 

Hilary snapping her finger at Tessa ordering her to bring her tea...can you believe that? 

Edited February 6, 20187 yr by ajsp35801

That would be something worth watching.  It definitely could work because at this point, both Noah and Devon are (mostly) blank slates, there's been no real investment into either character to show us who they are.  I like it.  

 

Originally, CG was a snarky bitch and it worked for the most part.  TPTB decided they wanted to make her the heroine...so there ya go.  CG even said at the time that she liked Mariah way better than Cassie. 

I agree they should keep Noah a jerk. He has more than enough reason to stop being Mr. Nice at this point.  This is the first time I've felt the character has a pulse.

I just want Devon Noah & Hilary away from Messa's orbit. FAR AWAY.

^ Well, I think your idea to kill Tessa is spot on.  Messa finally fall in love. Then let the tragedy begin. Then find a new woman for Mariah.  This approach has it's problems, I guess, but I don't believe they can make this couple work long term.  Then again, I felt that way about Kevin and all of his relationships and they managed to drag those out forever.

 

 

 

 

^^^Tessa and Mariah will play for at least another 2 years at least.  They've moved the chess pieces around to push and center them in an orbit of young characters in a self contained story. Tessa isn't going anywhere unless Mal young is fired. That's my prediction. Lol 

^ I won't be surprised.  I think when they made Mariah a lesbian, a certain commitment went with that. Even though this couple isn't working for me, I think Y&R would get a lot of push back if they pull the rug out from under at this point.

Damn, Beth Maitland was good today!  Also she looked great, although I wish they'd give her more color in her wardrobe.