16 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Yup. And because Abby is her sister and Victoria was her stepmother. 

 

But the main role Abby played in Colleen life is being her cousin. But I think they could have did a romance with Adam & Colleen. She likes older guys.

Abby & Colleen didn't stop being 'sisters' until Y&R decided to erase the Carltons from Genoa City.

5 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Abby & Colleen didn't stop being 'sisters' until Y&R decided to erase the Carltons from Genoa City.

 

Abby is Ashley kid & Colleen is Tracey kid. Wouldn't that make them cousins & still family. Even when Brad & Ashley broke up. I know they was step sisters but they mainly cousins

They are/were always blood cousins but they (especially Abby) was/were raised as sisters even after Abby's bio paternity was revealed.

 

They weren't reduced to 'just' cousins until Y&R SORASED Abby and killed off Brad & Colleen.

5 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

They are/were always blood cousins but they (especially Abby) was/were raised as sisters even after Abby's bio paternity was revealed.

 

They weren't reduced to 'just' cousins until Y&R SORASED Abby and killed off Brad & Colleen.

Weren't they still considered sisters when Hayley Erin played a SORASed Abby?

They were (to an extent) but there was a distinct effort to separate them with Abby mainly sharing scenes with Ashley, Victor & Adam while Colleen was heavily involved with JT & the Crimson Lights bunch (Lily/Devon/Adrian/Daniel/Jana/Kevin/Amber)

I noticed the CE as Adam mentioned. He was fantastic. In retrospect, he was absolutely right to quit. Tell me how did Adam gas lighting Ashley/BBQ fetus and a single implied pumping of that lawyer help the show in long run? It didn't. Who was the hack that steered Adam into darkness? 

Just now, edgeofnik said:

I noticed the CE as Adam mentioned. He was fantastic. In retrospect, he was absolutely right to quit. Tell me how did Adam gas lighting Ashley/BBQ fetus and a single implied pumping of that lawyer help the show in long run? It didn't. Who was the hack that steered Adam into darkness? 

MAB, Hamner and Sheffer

@cassadine1991 Figures. And CE was treated horribly by 'fans' for a story that ended up being about 5 minutes of GayforPay than him rejecting a potential gay storyline. It was a disgusting attempt at shock. 

Part of the failure of that whole story was because Y&R kept hedging their bets. They wanted Adam to go 'dark' but not Roger Thorpe/Todd Manning dark which irreperably warped the character. Something no actor had been able to fix (although JH did his best).

10 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Part of the failure of that whole story was because Y&R kept hedging their bets. They wanted Adam to go 'dark' but not Roger Thorpe/Todd Manning dark which irreperably warped the character. Something no actor had been able to fix (although JH did his best).

 

If anything, they should've used Roger as a template for Adam. At least then they wouldn't've taken the character so damn far and made him so dark. Roger did heinous sh-t (like raping Holly), but he always felt immense regret afterwards. Roger spent the rest of his days trying to show Holly (and everyone else) that he was a changed, better man even though he stayed doing shifty stuff to get ahead and backpedaling all the time. I at least felt remorse for Roger and rooted for him in a sense. I never felt that for Adam. If any future writer is smart, they'd just leave Adam dead for good. 

14 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

Part of the failure of that whole story was because Y&R kept hedging their bets. They wanted Adam to go 'dark' but not Roger Thorpe/Todd Manning dark which irreperably warped the character. Something no actor had been able to fix (although JH did his best).

I liked Hartley's Adam, it was the only time I ever liked the character, but all the nasty things MM's Adam did were a stain on the character

1 minute ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

If anything, they should've used Roger as a template for Adam. At least then they wouldn't've taken the character so damn far and made him so dark. Roger did heinous sh-t (like raping Holly), but he always felt immense regret afterwards. Roger spent the rest of his days trying to show Holly (and everyone else) that he was a changed, better man even though he stayed doing shifty stuff to get ahead and backpedaling all the time. I at least felt remorse for Roger and rooted for him in a sense. I never felt that for Adam. If any future writer is smart, they'd just leave Adam dead for good. 

Most of the time Adam felt little to no remorse at all

1 hour ago, cassadine1991 said:

Weren't they still considered sisters when Hayley Erin played a SORASed Abby?

 

Don't even bring up that miscast Abby...<shudders> 

That dinner scene with the Abbotts was very well acted, and written. There was just enough awkwardness, and no overacting. I hope they don't kill off Dina, because she is excellent. Also, loved the shoutout to Mamie and calling her more than a housekeeper. Good bit of writing.

 

I'm enjoying Hillary and Lily. I would like to see them become friends after Cane is exposed. 

 

I'm also liking Cane playing the villain. Juliet is also a good character, I hope they keep her.

 

Last of all, I have to admit that last scene with Chloe was pretty haunting and sad. They wrapped up that story quite nicely (not the outcome, but doing without the over the top antics like with Dillon).

 

Edit: Forgot to mention, that Julie Chen segment was CRINGE in the past.

 

On 2017-05-30 at 3:29 PM, edgeofnik said:

Other than Sharon/Scott/Kevin, everything else worked well in terms of dialogue and pacing.

It's good to see them return Ashley to rationale rather than shrew.

Dina/Phyllis what an unexpected pleasure!

I actually liked Nick today - that says something. I know it won't last, but I'll take it.

SSM would be foolish to dump EH.

I hope this tougher Nikki sticks and it's OK that Victor/Nikki are a couple of 'convenience.' MTS/EB still work together.

 

 

I agree with you.

 

However, I think they should cut EH. EH was really good in the latest arc, but I'm tired of writers keeping actors/characters past there expiration date just because there good. Same thing happened with Greg Rikaart and it became outlandish the hoops they did to keep him on. I think we should just acknowledge how great EH was and let her go out with a magnificent final performance IMO

7 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

The Internet was around in 1987, only then it was known as the World Wide Web but the only people who really had access to and used it were scientists.

I can remember using the World Wide Web as early as 1994 as a student, way before it was in use by the general public.

 

 

And your [&#33;@#&#036;%^&amp;*] point is.......

I will never believe Adam did that Feutus thing until someone shows me.  Who is willing?