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Y&R: June 2017 Discussion Thread

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14 hours ago, Cat said:

 

Yep lol. And he totally could. I think the thing with JM that some may underestimate is that among male leads there are plenty of pretty faces, but not that many with a kind of 'touchable' handsomeness. Sometimes that prettiness (B&B's Ronn Moss comes to mind) is kind of too pretty, too perfect, too distant. But with Josh Morrow, an audience can almost imagine what he feels like to touch, lol. I know this sounds like I've thought WAY too much about this and JM in particular, but in my years of watching Y&R, there have been few actors who emit that kind of tangible quality which appeals to a female and gay audience. JM appeals to both, precisely because of his wolfy qualities lol. It's somewhat at odds with, say, a Daniel Goddard or Greg Rikaart, one of whom is like Teflon and the other who doesn't exude a particular sensuality (except maybe with CLB but that's another story).

I love how you described it and I felt dirty at the same time. But JM has always had Nick come across (more back in the old days) as primal at times but yes, touchable indeed.

 

@allmc2008, actually since L.A., I think the writers have been doing that.

 

Count me in as a fan of Abbotts. I was not around for Dina, but have seen/heard references to her for years so it's nice that she does not at all disappoint. And I guess it's just the family vibe that the Abbotts give up. Very relatable to me when I was little.

 

@DramatistDreamer, be still my writer heart and how you think. And you do plays? Jealous.

6 minutes ago, cassadine1991 said:

Hope those rumors about Scotty are true.

 

 

???

 

I was just liking that they are leaning a little toward him and Abby.

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Enjoyed the Dina stuff and watched the Scotty's scenes and FF the Chloe/Kevin mess.

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9 hours ago, GMac said:

 

Agreed!  There was a time that I was pretty much split down the middle, but since the Newmans have been so prolific, they get on my damn nerves.

 

 

Me too.  And I'm enjoying the way they are pacing this story, not knowing what (if anything) Graham is up to, leaving the character purposefully gray - good move on the writer's part.  This is just speculation on my part, but I do think that they may have brought MA/Dina back for her EOL story, but given how popular she is I think they've had to rewrite that.  I'm not sure how open MA is to being a regular, but even if they keep her on as recurring and shooting a one show a week or every 2 weeks (after this wraps up), it would bring some much needed levity to the Abbots. 

 

 

Yea, it's gotten pretty ridiculous.  IDK why they didn't take @DramatistDreamer's advice and use him at Fenmore's helping out his momma. 

 

 

Agree about keeping Dina around being worth it. I also think it was EOL. But so far I'm not seeing holes in the story or seeing a drastic turn that doesn't make sense to say her story is rewritten. I'm still waiting on the big moment, whatever it is, to happen.  

 

Using Scotty at Fenmore's requires them to use Lauren. But then maybe not since that merger with Jabot. He can easily be interacting with jack, Phyllis, Ashley.....and Dina. I don't get the point of him and Sharon. 

9 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

 

He literally was brought back for no reason, the actor looks dirty as [!@#$%^&*] and he's incredibly dry.  Nothing he has done to date justifies his presence!  

 

I think he was brought back cause the show needed men, in general. But he's being used all wrong. I think he's attractive BUT not the thing of my fantasies by any means. 

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8 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

I know many people were disappointed that Scott was not made into a Doctor like his father and honestly it would've been nice epecially since Stitch no longer appears onscreen but what I proposed was based on what Y&R had already decided which was to make him a journalist.

 

Yeah, having a journalist write ad copy for a boutique might be considered a step down but at least it would have been to help save his family's struggling business and it might have been more plausible than the convoluted story that Y&R created.  

Also, we could've seen Lauren and Scott bond onscreen while working together to restore Fenmore's and it might have made sense that later, Lauren is acting protective toward Scott against his romantic prospective partners instead the whole thing coming out of far-left field. 

 

If it were me, I would've had Auntie Cricket use all her connections to secure Scott's rescue (instead of these hair-brained pseudo-dangerously sketchy spy plans that we see Christine trying to rope her nephew into). If they insist (which they usually do with Victor), they could've used some Newman resources to help get Scott out of the Syria-like country where he was supposedly being held. Helping to find Scott's driver/guide...again,  Auntie Cricket could've done this, giving her some onscreen time with her "nephew". 

 

If anything, I would've had Victor request that Scott do a series of "puff pieces" on the Newmans for PR purposes but as Scott does research, he spots signs of corporate malfeasance and starts to do more digging on the side.  As the Fenmore story started to resolve or lag, seque him into this where he gets to know, bump heads and develop a bit of an attraction to Abby but I wouldn't put them together right away. Instead I'd have Scott be single and go out with other singles like Mariah, maybe even develop a friendship with Tess.

 

The show has made the mistake that so many other soaps have committed over the past 12-15 years-- they no longer bother to develop new characters fully!  Then they obsess over sticking them with established characters in some awkward romantic partnership. This is why the audience never gets to care about these characters. 

 

Great. This is really great commentary. 

 

Scott's story is a prime example of one of the main problems I have with the show at the moment. Instead of telling story that makes sense using characters that make sense, the show warps story to push characters, pairings, rivalries, et al that they've decided they want to focus on. It makes zero sense for Scotty to be involved with Newman when Fenmores is/ was struggling. It makes no sense that his entire family is offscreen while he builds relationships with Newmans instead of them.  

 

It's also absurd to me that Hilary is leading story about Juliet. I've said it before, but from what's onscreen you'd think she's the one who slept with Cane and filed a lawsuit instead of Juliet. 

 

tomorrow's show, Hilary meets with Leslie about Juliet's lawsuit while Juliet is nowhere to be found. We don't see Juliet with her own lawyer!!

 

It's just bad story telling. I struggle with it. Dina's story is one of the few playing proper beats with characters that should be featured, if you discount Tracy and Jill not being utilized as they should. Is there any wonder it's the best one being told? 

51 minutes ago, cassadine1991 said:

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He supposedly writes a news piece about Forrester and Spectra and that will bring Sheila to GC

 

 

I think this is a reach. 

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1 hour ago, cassadine1991 said:

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LOVE.

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I know it won't happen, but can you imagine if Y&R can build on the past 4 weeks by adding the following catalysts during the next few months: Dru, Adam and Shelia? The lack of a morally gray character is evident as Chloe and Hilary have filled that void during the past few weeks - they immediately grab your attention because they are pushing story forward. The same could be said about Dina, but in a far deeper emotional way ties back to the Abbott family introduction 30+ years ago. If only they could return Michael and Phyllis to their devious/clever selves.

 

I exclude TGVM because he that vulnerable part that makes you like him was gone decades ago - he's all about manipulation, control and whisking Nikki on 'exotic trips with no business' when she strays too far. But it's better that he's at the office than sitting around listening to classic music and playing chess with Faith, who knock wood is MIA until SORAS'd. 

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On 6/11/2017 at 5:17 PM, JONNYSBRO said:

 

 

I think its clear YR needs a new head writer. The show has no real stories its a complete mess.

 

This is such bullshit.

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1 hour ago, edgeofnik said:

I know it won't happen, but can you imagine if Y&R can build on the past 4 weeks by adding the following catalysts during the next few months: Dru, Adam and Shelia? The lack of a morally gray character is evident as Chloe and Hilary have filled that void during the past few weeks - they immediately grab your attention because they are pushing story forward. The same could be said about Dina, but in a far deeper emotional way ties back to the Abbott family introduction 30+ years ago. If only they could return Michael and Phyllis to their devious/clever selves.

 

I exclude TGVM because he that vulnerable part that makes you like him was gone decades ago - he's all about manipulation, control and whisking Nikki on 'exotic trips with no business' when she strays too far. But it's better that he's at the office than sitting around listening to classic music and playing chess with Faith, who knock wood is MIA until SORAS'd. 

That first paragraph is everything. And you are right. Chloe and Hil are really driving story which is drawing you in...for better or for worse. Same for Dina. And I think we need more of that. And watching old Y&R shows in the Old Articles Thread is making me see how watered down Michael and Phyllis are. I guess I do kinda miss that.

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So, yea - they really need to ship MCE off somewhere and keep EH.  She's so much more interesting than MCE's Chelsea.  Send Chels and Nick off somewhere to "start a new life" until such time as Adam is back (hopefully not for a couple years) and bring them back for the Christian WTD reveal.  I know none of this will never happen but still...

 

 

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I wish that guy would kill Kevin.

 

Victor act like he cared for Adam. Victor remind me how Trump treat the young Tiffany & the young son.

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I hope that guy that is helping Chloe doesn't die. I want Kevin to get killed.

 

The only way Juliet wins if she ends up pregnant. 

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I really like Billy being a vinyl loving hoarder!  He reminds me of me, in a sense.  In fact, I wonder if they will address the Vinyl comeback?

1 hour ago, MoTheGreat said:

 

 

Victor is acting like he cared for Adam. Victor He reminds me of how Trump treats the young Tiffany and the younger son.

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