10 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

Y'all know what a vixen is right?  So why does Hill need friends?  Did Erika Cane have friends?  Did Delia Reid Ryan Ryan... have friends?  Usually a vixen has one person in their life they can always count on, that is Jack for Hillary.  Otherwise, she needs to be deliciously bad and not weighted down with friends ruining her manipulations.  

 

Hopefully, Hevon will reunite, but until then, I'm enjoying Hillary immensely.  Daytime has gotten away from villains and vixens and I miss that.  

Hevon will definitely reunite. Soaps always would have a popular couple have rough patches and break up for period of time where they date other people. 

33 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

Because they can't. Devon is a perfect example. One failed relationship with Mariah and he's essentially been reduced to the backburner again.

 

And look how quickly they gave up on it. Its been less than 2 months. Mind you, I don't think it works but if he was someone else I think they'd chase the pairing and his success. I'm just ready for him to escape her. Move him on from this please. 

23 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

Y'all know what a vixen is right?  So why does Hill need friends?  Did Erika Cane have friends?  Did Delia Reid Ryan Ryan... have friends?  Usually a vixen has one person in their life they can always count on, that is Jack for Hillary.  Otherwise, she needs to be deliciously bad and not weighted down with friends ruining her manipulations.  

 

Hopefully, Hevon will reunite, but until then, I'm enjoying Hillary immensely.  Daytime has gotten away from villains and vixens and I miss that.  

 

How long does one be a villain/vixen before they run their course? 

6 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

And look how quickly they gave up on it. Its been less than 2 months. Mind you, I don't think it works but if he was someone else I think they'd chase the pairing and his success. I'm just ready for him to escape her. Move him on from this please. 

 

How long does one be a villain/vixen before they run their course? 

 

There's no expiry date.  Just roll with it.  Folks are ill at ease because Devon is in the background somewhere, and somehow, Hill at her best is the reason for it?  Oh well.

 

Hill is rocking my socks and she makes YR watchable!

28 minutes ago, cassadine1991 said:

Hevon will definitely reunite. Soaps always would have a popular couple have rough patches and break up for period of time where they date other people. 

 

One of the reasons I was for hevon breaking up was I thought it'd give the show an opportunity to build Devon up as an individual character and allow Hilary to lose and gain some perspective. Neither of which are happening. It feels like a sqaundered opportunity so far. Hilary is back to the cartoon, one note villain Pratt created last year. Devon is back to being a secondary tertiary character like he was prior to the Hevon pairing put him on fans'  radar. This has been a step back for both characters IMO. 

10 minutes ago, ChitHappens said:

 

There's no expiry date.  Just roll with it.  Folks are ill at ease because Devon is in the background somewhere, and somehow, Hill at her best is the reason for it?  Oh well.

 

Hill is rocking my socks and she makes YR watchable!

 

You are totally misconstruing what I've said. No one blames Hilary for Devon being backburned. If anyone/anything, I blame that ridiculous pairing he's stuck in with Mariah. Had that actually popped, he wouldn't be backburned. 

 

Hilary is definitely the reason to watch Y&R at the moment. MiM is a star. But that doesn't mean I enjoy the writing for her. Said writing of which I think I've explained my issues with in posts immediately prior. 

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They were sort of building Devon up by having him and Neil start their own company but it wasn't what I was hoping for at all.

 

And how does he go to the bar and not have any scenes with his niece? Lawd ...

 

Mattie and Reed are sort of cute but they're already rushing this and they're putting logic aside, like Devon not noticing his niece, or Reed and Mattie not even being aware who the other is related to.

3 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

They were sort of building Devon up by having him and Neil start their own company but it wasn't what I was hoping for at all.

 

And how does he go to the bar and not have any scenes with his niece? Lawd ...

 

Mattie and Reed are sort of cute but they're already rushing this and they're putting logic aside, like Devon not noticing his niece, or Reed and Mattie not even being aware who the other is related to.

 

 

Exactly. This was a huge problem under Pratt that is now starting to rear up again. The show is ignoring proper beats to focus solely on what they want to feature. For Mattie, that'd be her relationship with Reed, which is the only reason she was Soras'd, and her relationship with Lily. Notice that Charlie has disappeared. Who does that surprise? 

 

Devon is a glorified extra at the moment. No reason he should be considering that he has a music business story actively being told. But those scenes went to Mariah. Makes ZERO SENSE. 

14 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

 

Exactly. This was a huge problem under Pratt that is now starting to rear up again. The show is ignoring proper beats to focus solely on what they want to feature. For Mattie, that'd be her relationship with Reed, which is the only reason she was Soras'd, and her relationship with Lily. Notice that Charlie has disappeared. Who does that surprise? 

 

Devon is a glorified extra at the moment. No reason he should be considering that he has a music business story actively being told. But those scenes went to Mariah. Makes ZERO SENSE. 

 

You keep saying "those scenes went to Mariah" as if they crossed Devon's name out for hers. But I know what you mean.

 

And yep, no surprise Charlie has disappeared. We all knew they'd focus on Mattie.

 

It drives me nuts when beats aren't played and things are ignored specifically for plot purposes.

29 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

They were sort of building Devon up by having him and Neil start their own company but it wasn't what I was hoping for at all.

 

And how does he go to the bar and not have any scenes with his niece? Lawd ...

 

Mattie and Reed are sort of cute but they're already rushing this and they're putting logic aside, like Devon not noticing his niece, or Reed and Mattie not even being aware who the other is related to.

Unfortunately I agree. The scenes with Mattie have been good for Reed. It's brought out the sweetness in his character, but the set up is sloppy.

4 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Unfortunately I agree. The scenes with Mattie have been good for Reed. It's brought out the sweetness in his character, but the set up is sloppy.

 

Agreed. It's sloppy.

12 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

 

You keep saying "those scenes went to Mariah" as if they crossed Devon's name out for hers. But I know what you mean.

 

And yep, no surprise Charlie has disappeared. We all knew they'd focus on Mattie.

 

It drives me nuts when beats aren't played and things are ignored specifically for plot purposes.

 

No, they didn't cross his name out. They just chose to design the scenes to feature her while he disappears in the business that he owns. And yes, it's grating. I HATE IT!!!!!!!! I can't say it enough. LOL. 

 

With this it's not even plot. Devon could have bumped into Mattie at the door and her ask him not to embarrass her inside. That'd be enough. As for Reed not knowing her. She's not the only Mattie in the world. Until he's given a last name I can see him not recognizing her. Does he have a last name? 

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25 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

Until he's given a last name I can see him not recognizing her. Does he have a last name? 

 

Hellstrom.

 

Speaking of rushed, Victoria and Abby sped through six months worth of plot points in a single episode. Watching two mediocre actresses make bad writing work was painful.

37 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

No, they didn't cross his name out. They just chose to design the scenes to feature her while he disappears in the business that he owns. And yes, it's grating. I HATE IT!!!!!!!! I can't say it enough. LOL. 

 

With this it's not even plot. Devon could have bumped into Mattie at the door and her ask him not to embarrass her inside. That'd be enough. As for Reed not knowing her. She's not the only Mattie in the world. Until he's given a last name I can see him not recognizing her. Does he have a last name? 

So Mac didn't have any pictures of the twins around the house? Isn't she their godmother? I just have a really hard time with that.

11 minutes ago, DeeeDee said:

 

Hellstrom.

 

Speaking of rushed, Victoria and Abby sped through six months worth of plot points in a single episode. Watching two mediocre actresses make bad writing work was painful.

 

I meant for Maddie. Does he know it's Ashby? Lol

1 minute ago, Juliajms said:

So Mac didn't have any pictures of the twins around the house? Isn't she their godmother? I just have a really hard time with that.

 

I don't. My mother has pictures of all kinds of little kids around the house. I wouldn't recognize them in the street. I don't even know who half of them are. 

5 minutes ago, ajsp35801 said:

 

I meant for Maddie. Does he know it's Ashby? Lol

 

I don't. My mother has pictures of all kinds of little kids around the house. I wouldn't recognize them in the street. I don't even know who half of them are. 

Did she give birth to any of them? I mean, it's not that big a deal, but it does stand out to me given how small GC is and the fact that Mac was their surrogate.

15 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Did she give birth to any of them? I mean, it's not that big a deal, but it does stand out to me given how small GC is and the fact that Mac was their surrogate.

 

I'm told she's godmother to a few. I just don't think he should recognize her. The name should be recognizable though. That should ring a bell.