"The Conners" Discussion Thread

[BetterForgotten]

Oh, must be an old Tweet, she did that picture a few years back. 

[Vee]

Yeah, that's tacky but old. She is Jewish and it's a crass photo shoot but I don't remember what it was for - something meant to outrage.

[BetterForgotten]

I mean, she also called Israel a "Nazi state" at one point...

 

She speaks about the picture controversy :45s in. At 3:30 in, they speak about how "political correctness" has ruined comedy. 

 

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Edited March 29, 2018 by BetterForgotten

[dragonflies]

No being stupid has ruined comedy, there is going too far as well

[Faulkner]

 

 

[Juliajms]

I think there has to be a middle ground. The show itself hits that target for me.  The way Roseanne and Dan reacted to Mark wasn't politically correct.  On many shows, they would immediately be the bad guys for not getting him right away.  They weren't politically correct on surrogacy either, but I think a lot of people relate to how they see it.

 

Real Roseanne is someone I've written off in a sense.  I think she deserves compassion for what she's been through, but I can't take her seriously. I also think it's unfortunate that she has the twitter megaphone that she does.

 

 

[dragonflies]

Sadly though if Roseanne the actress keeps up with what she's doing, she's going to be the reason the show gets cancelled, good ratings or not.

 

I guess she tweeted a nazi salute to one of the Parkland teens then I guess ABC demanded she delete it

 

[Vee]

Roseanne was at least this unbalanced at times during the original run. I think Sara Gilbert has a better chance of wrangling her in future than others.

[DRW50]

If the ratings hold up but the controversy continues I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a Valerie Harper on her.

[Vee]

I don't think that'll happen, but I do think the focus on Darlene and her kids is deliberate and smart. I also do hold out hope for the cast bringing her back from the brink - she has gone from constantly offensive to sheepish and on the defensive in recent months, with only occasional horrible flashes of really terrible. For Roseanne Barr that is sadly a promising forecast.

Edited March 29, 2018 by Vee

[Juliajms]

Oh yeah.  I remember her national anthem.  Twitter is not the friend of the Roseanne and Trump's of the world. Or hell, maybe it is in a way. That's the dark side of social media. 

[dragonflies]

I was just thinking this. Kill off the character and let the show continue, clearly Sara Gilbert can carry as the lead actress on the show

[Vee]

It's not gonna happen.

 

It didn't when the producers tried to float it in '88 (after the episode where Jackie and Dan ran the house together while Roseanne was away) and Laurie Metcalf and John Goodman both went straight to Roseanne about it, and it will never happen now. If the cast stood in solidarity with her through all her insanity for a decade on the air, they'll do so again today.

Edited March 29, 2018 by Vee

[Juliajms]

^ Yeah, the people there know who she is and they made the choice to come back.  Plus Roseanne does have charisma.  I'm sure there is some line she could cross that would make ABC pull the plug completely, but I hope it doesn't happen.  It wouldn't be the same show without her.

[Gray Bunny]

 

Exactly. Give them a false sense of security, having one of "their kind" as the leading lady... and then that same leading lady will be shown openly embracing progressive topics and people with different backgrounds [as it is, episodes 2 through 9 will have no Trump mention, but instead showcase gender identity, biracial kids, interracial marriage, surrogacy (i.e. non-traditional conceptions), the opioid epidemic, etc.].